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84905
People tend to make a post when they get a rare drop very quickly, and less often when they get a rare drop after many hours farming (or not at all). I suggest you completely ignore any drop times posted by people in these forums, and stick to the drop rate percentages listed from the wowhead/thottbot/allakhazam wow addons.
评论来自
piestuff
As of 2.4, it now makes a sound when you click on it. Similar to the Dark Whelping
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10822
.
Personally I liked it w/out, but, oh well.
评论来自
Allakhazam
two whelps within 4minutes.^^ farmingtime 2hours.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i went there for the purpose of farming aftr 2.3 came out case i wanted to quick cash, it dropped the first kill.... i farmed a crimson whelp once and i saw suprised as hell when it dropped off that mageweaver
评论来自
Allakhazam
It dropped for me after only 3 kills. A fellow guild member got one after very few kills too. Thinking they weren't rare after all, I went there the next day hoping to get another one for a friend of mine. Spent 5 hours there without any luck.
I got mine from a
Blue Dragonspawn
. All the dragonkins around Lake Mennar in south Azshara can drop it (around 36,72). Good luck everyone, it's a cute pet.
Edited, Nov 15th 2007 7:00am by Rholm
评论来自
Allakhazam
3 hours farming on my rogue nothing i broke 10 million dmg according to my SW stats. I got around 50g just off killing the guys 2 blues and around 50 greens. Im just about to start another day of farming
评论来自
Allakhazam
Get it from Draconic Mageweaver from 15-20 kills :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I farmed for exactly 37:11 minutes and had one drop off of a Magelord. I'm gonna go back later and get another for my alt. :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Lvl 60, farming just for fun. Got it in around an hour along with purple Freezing Band. Guildy followed my lead and got his whelpling in around an hour as well.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Farmed for about 4.5 hours in the last few days and got nothing but tons of dragon scales, leather, lots of gold, and 3 green items. I saw a level 70 doing the same thing, and asked her if she was searching for the azure whelp as well. She came over and gave me one for free because she had just gotten one and was farming leather for her new profession. Thats the end of my farming. Just need Crimson and Dark now, got the two hard ones.
Edited, Dec 10th 2007 12:12pm by Franthetypingfish
评论来自
Allakhazam
wtb azure whelpling
im not sure of the exact price, but it usually seems to go for like 200g or so in dragonmaw AH.
im alliance,,
Realm: Dragonmaw
IGN: elementr
mail me or add me
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have one on Bladefist server trying to sell it. Send me a message if interested.
评论来自
Allakhazam
got mine after about 3 hours of farming. made about 75g after was all said and done and i sold everything. found an epic and a couple blues. loads of greens and greys (almost have a full twill set now).
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got 2 Azure Whelplings after a little less than an hour of farming. Haha. I'm really excited! I got them both from Blue Scalebanes.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Found 2 of these in like 5mins. so ya, cant be too darn rare.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Farmed for an hour, had mine drop off of the non armored mage, so yes they drop off of all of them
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have one of these for sale in AH starting bid 600 gold or 1000 buyout on Thunderlord server Alliance side. 4 days to farm off blue scalebane. If interested may go lower, or trade for level 70 hunter equip/weapons. send WOW mail to ID SixhunnyNite
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got Mine from a dragonspawn it took about 4 hours but i got it. Now to the AH
评论来自
Allakhazam
First time I farmed these guys for this. I lost count of my kills after 500, but 650ish is a good guess as to how many kills it took me to get it to drop. After I got my OCD under control and stopped skinning everything in sight it went a lot quicker. Gotta love luck... 8P
评论来自
Allakhazam
Friend of mines got it from a drop, what luck lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
2 Days Farming.
First Day - Like 6 hours farming alone and no luck, saw a damn horde get it in 20min
Second Day - 40 minutes, then droped from a Draconic Magewaver.
Now I need Captured Firefly =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Put one up in AH in Gadgetzan on Bloodscalp server. If you're interested and wanna put in an offer with me message me in game Lighthide.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just wanted a rare cool-looking pet for my twink, was lucky with Captured firefly, got 2 drops in aprox 2 gos of farming, 1h farming max. Friends were making fun of me saying Whelp pet gods hate me, cause Ive never gotten to find a green/red/darkred whelp before and now this. 4 days and nothing, plus the place started to become packed with others farming. Decided to try my luck with the hyacinth rare parrot from STV. Second kill, got my parrot. Screw you, Azure Whelp :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got done farming for this. Got it in about an hour give or take a few mins. Dropped off of a Mageweaver.
Got lucky as hell b/c I was about to camp but decided I'd kill a few more before I did.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got mine after 4 days of farming.
Was just about to finish my circuit of around the lake and then head back to vendor sell the junk and restock.
Dropped off a Mageweaver.
Gave to Pally, could not bring myself to vendor sell.
评论来自
Allakhazam
After about 2 hours one dropped from one of the scalebane guys. I am a skinner so after all the dragons I killed plus the greens and to BOE blues that I sold quickly I made about 250g in profit, gonna try and turn this whelp for a profit if I can. It's for sale on th AH on Wildhammer Horde side 350g.
评论来自
Allakhazam
3 Days so Far and still nothing. Does it even exist?
That's it, I'm done. *Lets out steaming air*
Edited, Nov 25th 2007 5:56pm by LokoMoko
评论来自
Allakhazam
Farmed a couple hours the other night and got nothing. I went back the next morning and got one after about an hour. I believe it dropped from the mage.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Took about a half hour. Got really lucky, prob killed about 20sh...
My FFXI wyverns name was Azure...it was a sign that I needed to have one...
Edited, Dec 4th 2007 12:35am by Sephro
评论来自
Allakhazam
I heard that these babies ALSO drop off of the non-elites in winterspring, gettin ready to test for a bit to see if thats true. Ive goten 2 dark whelplings, and a firefly, so we'll see how this goes :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Farmed for 3-4 hours, only little competition, and got the (I believe) first drop of it on Alliance - Antonidas.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Been farming for one of these off and on since 2.3 went live. I think all total I farmed for about six hours spread out over three days until I finally got mine tonight off of a Blue Dragonspawn.
Its discouraging that it takes so long, but they DO exist. And if you keep at it, one WILL drop for you :) Best of luck!
评论来自
Allakhazam
UPDATE: 12 hours later I finally got the drop :) I almost freaked out because I was so used to seeing only coin lol! It was a Mageweaver that dropped it for me. /dances
Edited, Nov 19th 2007 5:27am by Ayanti
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've killed 2700+ (mmm mobinfo) of these stupid dragons. I've made 600g+ in coin and vendor trash, have about 10 stacks of dream dust from the 100+ greens i've de'd and 1 worthless pair of mail epic gloves. Not a single blue, and i can't believe i haven't seen the whelp. I'm not stopping till i get it. However, seems that on my server that no one is farming for one, because in the 12 or so hours i've wasted of my life there, only people i've seen were 3 >60 &*!@#$%s that were following me skinning my kills. I have yet to see a person with one in any of the cities i've been in since the patch. More stupid dragons to be killed, i'll post when i finally get it.
Update: killed over 4000 mobs, no whelp. 2 epics, 6 blues and i can't count how many greens. My brother comes out and farms for an hour and gets a F'in whelp. This game blows.
Edited, Dec 7th 2007 6:12pm by fierycrotch
评论来自
Allakhazam
NOTHING! Three days and these things do not exist!
评论来自
Allakhazam
After farming for 3 hours or so every day for a week, I finally got it to drop. I got 5 blues in the process, which I'll be able to sell for some decent cash as well. Oh yeah, and it was a Draconic Magelord that dropped it, so they are in fact confirmed to drop them as well.
评论来自
Allakhazam
LOL this morning I was just browsing AH. saw this in it for 5g...5G! boughtout, resold for 950g :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
I farmed this little guy for about 10hrs over three days. On the third day i finally got him after the first 5 or 6 kills. How lucky is that? I was actually farming in a group with some of my friends but they were to far away so they didn't know i got it till i said something. Luckily they didn't mind that i took it because they know I am a very very obsessed pet collector. Got this off the dragonkin in Azshara so those who have been told that it only drops off the ones in Winter they are wrong and you will waste your time. I'm deff not selling this little thing and now im off to farm the Tiny Emerald Whelpling.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Here's a screenshot of a mageweaver dropping it.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/Maximilium/WoWScrnShot_111507_185437.jpg
Only took me 3 days! XD
I made 200g in kills and item drops, trash and auction house, still some more on the AH to be sold....lol.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped for me in 3-4h farmming from Blue Scalebane.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9629/smoczekwm0.jpg
:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well boyz and gurls, it is not a myth. The Azure whelpling will drop off any azure dragonkin, Just like it says in the patch notes. Fact that my guilies and i have farmed 3 sence the patch 2.3 came out, with only farming for a few hours aday 2-3 hours. It will be handy to bring a skinner or learn skinning yourself as you will have pleanty of leather to sell or use along with blue scales. So good luck and have fun ^.^
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have been trying now for 3 days i killed 1300+ and still hasn't dropped.I'v had 1 epic 3 blues loads of greens and about 150 in gold this is on Ariepeak I can't take much more of this:(
评论来自
Allakhazam
Gd, been farminh for 2.5 days, probably 6 hrs and still nothing..
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got 1 for 6g from some idiot in AH
评论来自
Allakhazam
After about 400 kills or so I finally got mine from a Scalebane. I gave it to a friend. I managed to get one blue, a few greens, plenty of grays and made good money on the AH from skinning.
评论来自
Allakhazam
My friend was trying to farm this everyday for a week and i came to help him, on about my 40th kill i got it. He was very happy and surprised to have it.
Edited, Apr 9th 2008 11:36pm by metallhheeaad
评论来自
Allakhazam
Contact Ultimecia on Horde side, Kilrogg server with your price.
评论来自
Thottbot
Spirestone Players --- Don't purchase this pet from Mogrimi or Daian. These players are bot farmers and do not deserve anyones gold.
评论来自
Thottbot
not everything from griftah is useless, after the newest patch he now has the hoolah doll needed for the epic flying machine for engineering
评论来自
Thottbot
The azure whelpling just dropped for me. Over 1000 kills. I made 160g, and had 32 greens and 2 blues.
评论来自
Thottbot
Just to clarify for those that aren't sure. This whelp can drop from
ANY
of the blue dragonkin around Lake Mennar in Azshara as shown here:
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1416/bluedragonzg8.jpg
You have 4 types to farm which are as follows:
More East of the lake, higher level larger elite blue dragonkin:
Draconic Magelord
- Level 53-54 Elite
Blue Scalebane
- Level 52-53 Elite
More West of the lake, lower level smaller elite blue dragonkin:
Blue Dragonspawn
- Level 50-51 Elite
Draconic Mageweaver
- Level 51-52 Elite
So basically, any of the blue dragonkin has a chance to drop the Azure Whelpling, so no need to worry that your killing the wrong one. ^^
评论来自
Thottbot
Got mine after about 1000 kills (not all in one day, mind you). If you really want this pet, just keep at it. I'm a 70 Holy Paladin and I found the easiest method to farm is just to aggro a bunch and consecrate them down.
评论来自
Thottbot
Got it after like...maybe an hour of farming. :)
Kept it for myself, was going to sell it, but the little guy is too cute for me to give away!
Malakia, 64 BE hunter, Ravencrest
评论来自
Thottbot
After 6 hours, 2 BoE blues, and 213g worth of crap I vendored. I have my 2nd whelpling (my own). I sold the first one for 900g (lol?).
http://www.naota3k.com/images/whelp1.jpg
http://www.naota3k.com/images/whelp2.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
Boy, do I have a story. :)
So I had been farming this thing for days, about two hours each day. Made 600g all together off world drop epix/blues and enchanting mats.
I was farming it tonight and these two tardfaces kept ganking me for 20 minutes, trying to get me to spirit rez and leave. (/CRY! I'm tired and I want my damn whelp, GOAWAYPLZ, you're not good at PvP if you require a backup to help you kill a sleepy tank druid FYI.) So my friend shows up and we wiped them out hard. Mutiple times. It was bad. They left. (They reported my friend's name for being inappropriate, and he happily changed it to something even better. ;) tyvm.)
Anyway my POINT IS: Guess what jerks? IT DROPPED off the mob *you* were trying to kill when we rubbed your sad little kid faces into the dirt! THANKS FOR THE PET! :D
/dance
-Ahz; cutest she-dr00d you ever done seen. LOL srsly
评论来自
Thottbot
History might remember me as a monster, and call what I did unthinkable.
School children for centuries to come will learn of my horrid acts, which have come to be known as "The Dragonkin Massacre"
They will learn of a mad lone Warrior named Marros on a forgotten realm named Undermine. Marros was a strong Warrior, one forged by 67 years, or levels as his kind called them, of heroic questing and dungeon battles. He had been a champion for the weak, a defender for the defensless, but as the story goes so often, Marros fell on hard times.
Though he was a skilled blacksmith, Marros was always LFW, and could not find the work or the money he needed to further increase his skill. A master miner as well Marros often depended on the rich ores he harvested from the Earth, but the times and the economy were not what they once were. To many newbs sold their trade and materials for a price far below their value, and Marros could not compete with such low prices.
Then one day Marros heard a tale, a tale of riches far beyond what he could make with his craft, riches that would be enough to buy him that flying Griphon he had tried so hard to save for.
There was rumor of an Azure Whelpling, a baby of the blue Dragonkin, and people with far too much money were paying to turn this little beast into a token pet. So Marros flew to the long forgotten land of Azshara. Azshara was an uninteresting land without dungeons, one that had been forgotten by it's creators and the people of their world, but Marros had to go there and see for himself, to see for himself if the stories were true.
Marros arrived and began his search. He only at first observed the Blue Dragonkin to see if there were signs of the whelpling, but to no avail. Then Marros drew too close, and all was lost.
The Dragonkin knew why he was there, for their land had been plagued for weeks with others like him, looking, looking for what was not theirs.
Marros' greed however pushed him on. He began to slay the Dragonkin with ease, they fell one by one under his axe, and he continued the slaughter in search for his prize.
But his prize remained elusive. Marros knew this was to be a long battle, but also that others had succedded,and after every kill he convinced himself that only one more would be needed. Marros carried out his genocide on the Dragonkinfor hours, and the longer he fought, the greater his rage grew. He went from kill to kill, corpse to corpse, pillaging the dead bodies and finding only scraps, a few silver coins, and rarely and green item he could sell at the market later.
Marros quickly fell into madness, and the few hunters that still came to zone could often hear him in the distance yelling, "Damn you Dragonkin, GIVE ME YOUR BABY!" The hours eventually turned into days, yet his prize stilled remained elusive.
And so goes the tale, of Marros the Mad, and "The Dragonkin Massacre". Little else is known about what happened to Marros, only that he never found his Whelpling, and vowed never to return to Azshara again.
评论来自
Thottbot
A while ago I was with another hordie, a tauren femme
She had been farming for over 12 hours
I had just gotten there
After about an hour I was helping this tauren kill a large group of dragons she had tried to aoe
shamans can't really aoe too well....
So the next mob i snagged that was a few paces away dropped the lil fella
I felt lucky that I had gotten the baby from the one mob he didn't kill
Being a kind BE that i am I gave it to ms. tauren
She gave me 400g, enough to buy my reg flyer >w<
I was 67 then, and yesterday i got 70 and bought my flyer
It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling, being unselfish.
^-^
评论来自
Thottbot
Hello i farmed for roughly 2 hours last night with no luck the little guys had eluded me but me tonight i logged on while talking on the phone and time just flew by soon enough the little guy dropped and i was too heartbroken to reliquish him to the AH so i sent him to my balance druid (lvl 41 tauren) and never regreted it so my advice to help the farming blues is to find somthingto pass the time music or a phone call but the best is to NEVER LOOSE HOPE just keep telling yourself you'll get the little guy
Wyletha 70 blood elf rogue
Area 52
评论来自
Thottbot
I was farming blue dragonscales for the mail dragonscale set on my level 55 hunter when it dropped out of no were after a few days of farming. (And when I say a few I probably killed over 1k ) I didn't even know it dropped from these guys but was very lucky that I picked them to farm the scales. My advice would be to farm these at around 55-56 as well because it is easy exp, money, and nice drops, especially if you are a leatherworker because 2 rugged leathers usually drop from them each time. I had about 10 stacks after 3 hours of farming. Not to mention how chests pop out of no were every 5 seconds.
评论来自
Thottbot
I had 3 friends helping me farm this so I could give it to my son (4 years old) who has a lvl 26 gnome warrior. He loves his pets that follow him around and this will be the icing on the cake for him to have a dragon follow him around. It only took us a week and probably at least 1000 kills to get but it goes pretty fast with the anticipation that it might drop at any second. Keep going if your out there just waiting for yours to drop. It will happen.
Spirestone
60 Hunter
Koduron
P.S. I was in robot mode killing these dragons and did not even realize I had looted it till I was halfway through killing the next dragon.
评论来自
Thottbot
I did it!
199
- Draconic Magelord
312
- Blue Dragonspawn
682
- Blue Scalebane
889
- Draconic Mageweaver -
Dropped off
For a total of
2082
mobs.
I made over
1000g
from just selling the Greys, DEing the greens and Skinning the dragons and slappin' them on the AH.
that's about
50s
per kill... That's another
900g
~ if you sell the Whelp (oh I'm keeping mine for -sure-) so that'd be roughly
75s
per kill... say you can kill
3 per minute
(not impossible for a lvl 70) and that'd be around
150 killed per hour
, which levels out to
112g50s
per hour. Not too shabby for farming if you ask me!
评论来自
Thottbot
farmed for 18 hours over last 3 days then saw someone else get it on their 2nd mob and now im officially depressed and giving up.
评论来自
Thottbot
Decided I would acquire this last night as it is the last whelp I need for my collection (including netherwhelp). Farmed for about an hour but got bored quickly. Came backthis morning and farmed for 20 minutes. Set myself a limit of 20g received from the mobs before bed. 20g came and I was about to log but 1 more mob was close enough to kill without much effort.
And then the whelp dropped.
Always kill that last one :D
Now I can combine my Dark Whelping, Tiny Crimson Whelping, Tiny Emerald Whelpling, Nether Whelpling and Azure Whelping to form Chromatose - the Ultra-Invincible Uber Mecha-Monstro Chromatic Whelpling. I have just got to figure out the right key combination...
评论来自
Thottbot
Farming this as a fully epiced 70 mage took about 3 days on and off. It was quite a fun way to pass the time between invites to raids and heroics. The mobs are about as tough to kill as a normal 66-70 mob in terms of time. I would say that I killed about 500 of all types of dragonkin, the pet finally dropping off a Mageweaver.
I made 100's of gold from selling all the dozens of greens, Lei of Lillies (epic neck item) dropped too.
There is a little VENDOR in a Gnome house, just follow the path down to the coast. He serves both factions and it saves you a lot of trips to and from town.
Best of all, there is a little pet-cult of determined people farming for these guys. They were all really friendly! Expect big money at AH, but I'm keeping mine!
PS I respeced and thought I'd try it out on the Dragonkin after all the recent killings for comparison. And YES a second one dropped but this time after 25 kills! Again it was off a Mageweaver. One for my warlock now: it will go with the FSW dress:) My guild thinks I am mad as we saw one sell (for 800g) almost at once on Dath Remar. But there's no price on cuteness!
评论来自
Thottbot
Hehe, glad you guys liked Marros' story, scroll up a few clicks for those who don't know what's I'm talking about, it's a long post hard to miss.
Just wanted to update;
After all my grinding I finally got one of these little guys. Got some greens as well, no blues or epics, (I think i have some sort of luck debuff), but I got what I wanted. My server's a bit o nthe cheap side and crowded with griefers who were yelling at me in trade for asking 900g or best offer.
Finally someone pst's me, begging for me to drop it to 600g, saying how that's all he has, and he really wants one, i say 700g is the best i can do, but he keeps at me. I decided to be nice and accept 600 though cause it seems he really wants it and he was too low to farm. So when we go to trade I put in the whelp he put's in 550g, and doesn't even say anything. I gave up and let it him have it thinking karma will do me a solid later on. Not 10 seconds later he's put it in the AH and is in trade channel advertising it for 1000g. >.<
A week later I saw he still had it up, but this time at 350g, seems no one wanted to buy it. So I got my whelp, got hustled, got a good start on my flyer fund, and got to watch karma in action.
If you're on Undermine server, do yourself a favor, be a bit smarter than I was if you're dealing with a player called Greenwitenvy.
评论来自
Thottbot
Took me forever to find this, so hope it is helpful to others.
It's easy to make an educated guess at how long it will take to farm something. All you need to know is the drop rate (1/1200 for Azure Whelpling if
www.warcraftpets.com
can be believed) and a guess about the number of mobs you intend to kill.
take D = drop rate = 1 / 1200 = .0008333 repeating
take C = converse of the drop rate = 1199 / 1200 = 0.991666 repeating (C = 1 - D)
take X = number of mobs you intend to kill
P = probability that you will see at least one Azure Whelpling drop when killing X mobs
P = 1 - (C^X)
let's say I intend to kill 1000 mobs with a 1/1200 drop rate:
X = 1000
C = 1199/1200
P = 1 - (C^X)
P = 1 - ((1199/1200)^1000)
P = 1 - 0.4344 = 0.5656 = 56.56%
if I kill 1000 mobs, I have a 56.56% chance of seeing an Azure Whelpling drop. I want a much better chance than 57%, so to improve my odds, I must increase the number of mobs I'm willing to kill.
I wrote a small table of the number of mobs one must kill to reach varying drop probabilities:
100 mobs: 8%
500 mobs: 34%
1000 mobs: 57%
1250 mobs: 65%
1500 mobs: 71%
1750 mobs: 77%
2000 mobs: 81%
2500 mobs: 88%
3000 mobs: 92%
4000 mobs: 96%
5000 mobs: 98%
if you've already killed 1750 mobs and have not seen an Azure Whelp drop, your luck may not be as bad as you think. there's about a 23% chance of not seeing a whelp drop in 1750 kills. granted, your luck isn't great, but maybe not as bad as you thought. on the other hand, if you have killed 5000 mobs and still haven't seen an Azure Whelp, your luck is so horrible you were probably hit by lightning at least once while reading this.
this same P = 1 - (C^X) function can be applied to any loot for which you have reliable drop rate data. good luck, and hope this helps!
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Thottbot
After a week or almost two weeks, i finally got my Azure Whelpling. Wow. What a relief you get after all that work. I must of killed 2000 but it felt like more and could well of been more.
My advice is, if you are REALLY determined that you want this, and have the extra time. Go for it. Because all it takes is persistance. 30 minutes before i got it i was sure thinking about quitting. And you will always think that but if you persist, balance your time well, you will get rewarded well. :).
And puls as an added bonus, The gold from skinning, The loot ( I found 5 - 6 blue items i think ). I now him 1150 gold. Its a great money maker. Do it in spair time. Dont stress on it too much and persist and you will get the whelp that you want.
Darrok
Steamwheedle Cartel
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Thottbot
I got mine on the 4th kill. Gave to my son for Christmas :)
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Thottbot
OK, so this is an explanation of the theory that has been pasted around for rare drops such as the whelplings. With the help of some math and some probability theory, you should understand these formulas (if anyone else has posted a complete explanation of the formula, not just the formula, I appologise but I couldn't find it)
So, let's start with some theory:
We define the probability of an event X as the function P(X) wich takes values from 0 to 1. (as such, if P(X)=0.4369 for example, the probability for the event X to happen is 43.69%)
Let X and Y be 2 events. We say that X and Y are 2 independent events if the probability for one to happen is indipendent of whether the other one has happened or not. (for example, if X = the probability for something to drop on first kill and Y = the probability for that item to drop off the second kill, then X and Y are independent; on the other hand, if X = the same as before, while Y = the probability for the item to drop in the first 2 kills, then X and Y are not independent, becouse if X happens, then P(Y) is automaticaly 1, and if Y happens, then P(X)=0.5 - 50% chance to drop off first kill, 50% off second kill). This part is a bit fuzzy, but I hope you got it.
If 2 events X and Y are independent, then the probability for both to happen at the same time (we will mark this as P(X,Y)), will be the product of P(X) and P(Y). P(X,Y)=P(X)*P(Y). Note that, as both P(X) and P(Y)are between 0 and 1, so shall P(X,Y), thus making it a valid probability. The demonstration for this formula is a bit complicated and I would rather not post it, but if anyone wants me to post it, I shall, as I did mention a complete demonstration.
We say that 2 events X,Y are incompatible if they cannot both happen at the same time. The probability for EITHER of them to happen (marked by P(XvY)) is the sum of P(X) and P(Y). For the demonstration, same as above I am sorry to say.
If X is an event, let NonX be it's counter, so NonX is the event when X does not happen. In an experiment, X can either or it can not happen (obvious), so P(XvNonX)=1. But as X and NonX can't both happen at the same time => X and NonX are incampatible, so P(XvNonX) = P(X) + P(NonX), so P(NonX)=1-P(X).
Ok, boring theory over, let's get down to some logic.
First of all, we must understand one thing: the event of the item droping on a kill is independant of the events of the item droping on any other kill, including the ones before. Think of it like this, if you toss a coin 100 times and it comes heads for all 100 times, on the 101st toss, you still have a 50-50 chance for heads or tails.
Secondly, let's get down some events:
Let A = the event that an item drops from a kill. Let's say that P(A)=p, a certain value. So P(NonA)=1-p=q (yes, I am lazy and preffer to write q rather then 1-p every time).
Hmm... that event is all we need tbh.
Ok, so let us now calculate the probability for the item to drop on your n-th kill (where n is a number from 1 to infinity). This may not sound relevant, but it will help us further on.
So, in order for the item to drop on your n-th kill, it must first of all not drop on any of your first n-1 kills.
Seeing as these n events are independent, the probability for them all to happen is the product of the individual events(the n-1 no drops and the n-th drop). The probability of the first n-1 events are each q=1-p, the probability for the item not to drop. The probability for the n-th event is p, the probability for the item to drop. Therefore, the probability for all these events to happen (bassically the probability for the item to drop on EXACTLY the n-th kill) is p*q^(n-1).
Now, let's get down to what we really need: the probability of the item to drop BY the n-th kill. Ok, in order for the item to drop BY the n-th kill, it can drop on the 1st kill, on the 2nd, on the 3rd or on any of the other kills up to and including the n-th. Seeing as the drop can happen on EITHER of these kills, the total probability for the item to drop by the n-th kill is the sum of the individual probabilities. Let's call the desired probability f(n). Thus, f(n) = Sum, where i takes values from 1 to n. f(n)=p*q^0+p*q^1+p*q^2+...+p*q^(n-1)=p*Sum, where i is from 1 to n.
We also know that Sum(x^k), with k from 0 to a, and x<1 is a geomaterical progression and it is equal to (1-x^(a+1))/(1-x).
Seeing as q is a probability, q<1, and i-1 varies from 0 to n-1, f(n) = p*a geometrical progression. So f(n)=p*(1-q^n)/(1-q). But q=1-p, so 1-q=1-(1-p)=p. So:
........................................
f(n)=1-q^n
So if you take p the averege drop rate for a whelpling that most sites like
wowwiki
say it is p = 1 in 1000=1/1000 =0.001, we have q=1-p=0.999
f(n)=1-(0.999)^n
Haha, long assed post for something you already knew, but maybe this way you understood why it is so. Post any questions, comments or corrections as replies to this post. Thank you and please keep in mind this is not an english competition so don't flame my spelling.
评论来自
Thottbot
I swear this game knows my intent... Yes, i realize that makes absolutely no sense, but seriously...
Crimson Whelp - wanted for myself. 49 kills & it dropped.
Crimson Whelp - wanted another to sell. endless farming, no whelp.
Emerald Whelp - wanted to sell for lvl60 mount training - weeks, months, no whelp.
Dark Whelp - hey, they sell for the most on Eredar... over a week, no drop.
Captured Firefly - sell for flight training, over a week now, no drop.
Azure Whelp - wanted to give to a friend as a present, he doesn't know they exist yet. FOUR KILLS AND IT DROPPED.
Azure Whelp - wanted another to sell for flight training, 6+ hours, no drop.
sigh.
评论来自
Thottbot
Took me 2017 kills. Found 1 epic, 1 BoE blue, and 100+ greens. Selling the mithril from the circuit around the lake, vendoring the greens and the grays, I made about 400 gold.
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Thottbot
I finally got one today! I've been farming 4+ hours a day, and mainly started because I was bored but quickly became obsessed with finding the little booger.
Though the actual farming was tedious, I made about 100g in cash, got about 20 - 30 green drops, and one blue drop. The trash wasn't bad, either. In leather alone I've made over 100g selling the thick leather for 2g 50s and rugged leather for 5g. I also farmed about 150 blue dragonscales and 70 worn dragonscales, but there doesn't seem to be much of a market for them.
While I farmed, I debated whether I would sell it or not, then decided I would put my price on it and if it didn't sell, I would have my very own little blue dragon!
If it does sell, (I put it at 550g bid, 900g buyout) I'll probably go back out and farm away for another one, this time just for me!
Ridiculously expensive epic riding skill, here I come!
评论来自
Thottbot
right i hope this works for you if you going to get this horror (hard to kill but cool pet) make sure no one is there you want them yours so go a nice peaceful day there!.
im still farming for mine so best wishes to you if you are doing it and good luck it is hard to some ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
After almost two weeks (ok more like 10 days) of grinding (probably 15 hours of going around in circle... NASCAR anyone?) I finally have my little pet.
Plus I made over 400G and picked up one
Hammer of the Northern Wind
and I leveled all of weapon skills to Max.
评论来自
Thottbot
I believe Blue Dragonspawns have a increased drop chance believe it or not. I have gotten 2 whelps from them. One for myself and one for my friend. Took me 154 kills to get two whelps from them. But I was still killing the dragons that were all over the place.
I got lucky on my first whelp...got it on my 6th kill. But I guess the almighty lootgods was like "if you want another one your going to have to work for it" oh and believe me i had to work for it x.x
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Thottbot
Finally dropped tonight! I'm not saying this count is 100%, but it's pretty close:
Blue Dragonspawn: 153
Blue Scalebane: 245
Draconic Magelord: 75
Draconic Mageweaver: 368 (dropped the whelp)
Also I've now farmed for the emerald and the azure for countless hours with no success...my husband logs on and helps every now and then and they both dropped for HIM. So maybe have a buddy system, heck anything's worth a try. Off to crimson and dark! Good luck!
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Thottbot
I have farmed all around the Lake in Azshara for 2 days killing every dragonkin -- probably about 1000+ kills. No drop yet. :( Going to keep working at it, though. I'm determined!
Mortissa
Garona Realm, Horde
评论来自
Thottbot
Gave up on the grinding early this morning, and after six hours of rest decided to give it another try. Went to my same NW-of-the-lake grinding area, and after about 20 kills my beautiful whelpling *finally* dropped from a Draconic Mageweaver!
So, I'm going to reiterate what almost everyone before me has said: don't give up! It will eventually.. and I mean VERY eventually.. drop for you. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Ive been farming this thing for WEEKS now.
Ive killed well over 3000 with nothing to show for it but green loot and an endless supply of leather and dragonscales.
If anyone gets one on Doomhammer, reply here or let me know in-game(Milekan, Raydor, Radigor are my 70s).
评论来自
Thottbot
this is the most awesom pet ever imo. it is little and blue and cool and awesome and cool it pwns most other pets
评论来自
Thottbot
-_- I am now on kill 5879 amd havent seen one whelp drop. Do they even exist anymore? I have made over 2k gold though on trash drops. Ive had 2 BoE epics, 5 BoE blues, tons of greens and greys and no whelp. ><
Update: Just had it drop on my 6479th kill =D.
评论来自
Thottbot
i bought mine for 400g less than most people say so the person who sold it or put it up for auction must have been a sucker or really nice : ]
评论来自
Tirion
Can confirm that this item does indeed drop from the dragons of Azshara, and even though it was added in a late patch in retail TBC, it is available right now on the prepatch. Just got mine after 400+ kills from one of the Draconic Scalebanes.
Manadar <Ashenfell>
Skullflame-EU
评论来自
Azaelyn
This really does drop! Jadeite on Herod-US Alliance got it yesterday! It dropped from Blue Scalebane. It didn't take THAT long for him.
https://imgur.com/gallery/PLlYEVs
评论来自
ArcaRaptoria
I like how people give updates about how it took them like a week, maybe a few week in order for this damned whelpling to drop and then here i am...7 months spending about 5 hours a day just farming for this measly battle pet and not a single one drops and everytime i get enough gold to buy one from AH the price almost doubles, making it so i can't even get one from there either...back to the grindstone for eternity for me, oh well i guess some people deserve it and others don't...guess i'm one of the ones that don't deserve the whelpling despite the time i've spent trying to get it.
评论来自
ba4m3t
Can confirm its the same in TBC Classic 2021.
I decided to farm this guy since I love collecting companions and this guy was impossible to find on the AH .
I checked the other TBC websites and they mention that it drops from the 4 Types of blue dragonkin, but wowhead only mentions the "Mageweaver". . So not sure what the truth is.
Anyways I farmed for about 9 hours over 3 days. Killed all 4 types of dragonkin
I was about to leave since my invt was full, decided to deleted my mage foods so I could fill those up too.
Kill a mob, twill cover. Kill another Mageweaver, Azure Whelping *Game: Inventory Full* ME: HOLYYYYYYYYYYY SH*************! i gotta tell wowhead! ;D
I easily killed over 2-3k mobs!
Dont give up! GL :)
评论来自
Bjeffwoff
Just dropped today after 2052 kills!
评论来自
Testecleaz
Got mine today, 302nd kill, killed all types of dragon types, but it dropped from a blue dragonspawn , my lucky day, got the emerald whelpling earlier this am too !
评论来自
ceasure
Two blues and 2364 dragons later I finally got mine. Good luck farming, this one takes time to get.
评论来自
TShiningOne
Just got 1 of these guys off a Blue Dragonspawn. Don't be like me and ignore these guys, despite it saying the Whelpling only comes from Draconic Mageweavers and Blue Scalebanes, I can 100% confirm that I just pulled one off of a Blue Dragonspawn. I almost didn't kill him, he aggro'd to me accidentally and I figured it'd be faster to kill it than run from it. Kill him, loot him, + Azure Whelpling message in my chat log; jaw drops. I made an account just to make this post and inform others who might be questioning exactly where this comes from.
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