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评论来自
Dread
Very, very good item that will last you until 60. I had a friend craft me this and I slapped a +7 Agi enchant on here and it's great.
The set bonus once you get the legs make it even better.
评论来自
7735
Arguably one of the best non-epic pairs of gloves for rogues, especially once you get the legs for the set bonus you probably wouldn't need to replace these until you get nightslayer or perhaps blooddrenched.
评论来自
31182
Prior to The Burning Crusade, the Devilsaur Set was not worth breaking (for PvE) until you had either:
Dagger Rogues:
* Bloodfang Pants
* Aged Core Leather Gloves (prior to the weapon skill nerf)
Non-Dagger Rogues
* Bloodfang Pants
* Doomhide Gauntlets
Yep. They were *that* good. And nowadays they're still a pretty solid set for what amounts to about 60 minutes of work in Un'goro Crater (if you know how the devilsaurs path).
评论来自
20768
If you don't mind dropping armor classes, a good set for an enhance shaman, hunter, and possibly even fury warrior.
THe mats are very cheap now, as well.
评论来自
Thottbot
Keep in mind at level 60 it takes about 28 agility for one crit point, making these not lose their effectiveness as you level. Considering alot of rogue talents rely on crit, this is a nice bonus (for combo points, extra damage, etc). The real reason to get these puppies and the leggings is the +2 to hit set bonus. That's equal to two talent points in precision, way better than the other set bonuses and its only two pieces (mainly the overated stormshroud)!
评论来自
Thottbot
As thororgrim pointed out about your post with the leggings, Your math and Ideals are a little off. IMO the devilsaur is far superior to "monkey" gear.
Why do you want agi? To crit, so bassicaly your getting the effects of the agi without actually having it. Minus the dodge, Which is what I care about the least in my stats, Damage first!
"5) +28 Attack Power. Again, thats actually only +16 Attack power, because the others add 12 thanks to the Agility."
Which is more than double your current bonus. And lets not forget the set bonus of +2% to hit!
评论来自
Thottbot
Seen em for anywhere from 30g to 100g on the AH...
评论来自
Thottbot
the 2% chance to hit bonus with the set is pretty nice, i do admit.
for all those going for this, a word of warning about your talent spec.
a rogues rate to miss when duel wielding is 19%. the normal base rate is 5% and this gets added on so our chance to miss when duel wielding is 24%.
through the precision talent you can reduce this chance to miss back down to 19%. BUT, you can't reduce it any further because of the duel wield penalty (you can only reduce the base rate chance to miss - 5% - and not touch the duel wield penalty). this would mean if you had this set and 5 points in precision you'd be wasting 2 talent points. of course, precision is a pre-req of getting the "increase offhand damage" talent. if you wanted this in your build you'd probably be better staying away from this set, as you'd literally be spending 2 talent points that would be wasted. or spending 7 talent points, instead of 5, to reach 5/5 in duel wield specialisation.
评论来自
Thottbot
I bought the whole set for 120 stone scale eels. How hard that is ? Jut give me 4 hours and a bag 'o aquadynamic fish attractors. Call me a newbie, but the set is better than anything I got so far. Nice reward, when cranking fishing skill and cooking through the ceiling.
评论来自
Thottbot
This really breaks down to a matter of utility, and a matter of personal preference to that utility. Some people like to dodge more regularly against most, and don't miss the attack power so much - others to have more attack power, and skimp the dodge perhaps for battles against warriors.
It's not necessarily superior OR inferior, it just depends mostly on your build and playing style.
Just thought I'd point that out, since it seems to me that most people in the game and out, get stuck into a closed-minded proverbial "box" about what is BETTER than something else - it's just important to remember that it's all relative and stop generating argument+40 to all successful nogoodreasons.
Also - to the person who said the combat tree for rogues is useless - I was able to, at level 50, kill level 60 warriors, rogues, mages, paladins and warlocks with my combat rogue. I think it's important to realize that just because you suck with a combat specced rogue, doesn't mean we all do =) kthx.
-John. <Grayform>
评论来自
Thottbot
I have a wardrobe of 2 14 slots + 1 bag full of poisons, flashes, alchemy stuff.
For instances I change my gear to full crit set, taking my crit to 23.81% (sometimes increase it with mongoose potions), then apply +8 weapon damage to my main hand dagger (which is enchanted with crusader) and apply crippling to my off. Then ask for my personal to cover me, i just rage the mobs.
For PVP/duelling, I change my gear to Stamina. The reason is am 21/8/22 build and have got both CB and preparation. Duels atmost last for like 15-30 secs and with this build, I can guarantee a 2 time vanish and 2 time crit, so atleast I've to hold for some time. My Stamina gear gives me around 3500 HP, which is 600 more than what i get with my crit gear. This extra HP definetly helped me to keep with other classes except shamans as of now. IMO, ideal build for PVP would be around 4000 HP, 18-20% crit, 17-19% dodge, +600 AP ... this should help you sustain most of the pvp's enough for unleashing your double CB's.
This is just my opinion with a 21/8/22 build. Defintely not aggreable for other builds.
评论来自
Thottbot
How much should i sell the gauntlets and the leggings? I would like people's idea's.. .. I'am on Draenor realm if anyone is interested in whispering me about it too.. But i'll be checking here for your opinions. ^_^ thx
/w talist
评论来自
Thottbot
devilsaur set is awesome .. best pre MC gloves/pants you can get
评论来自
Thottbot
so im not quite certain on how the stats workout. why compare devilsaur to gloves of monkey and not to the shroud. i dont know how the math works on this. can i get some opinion please?
评论来自
Thottbot
SS armor:
2% crit
1% dodge
SS leggings:
2% crit
1% dodge
SS shoulders:
+10 sta
1% crit
1% dodge
Set bonus:
5% chance of dealing15 to 25 Lightning dmg on a successful melee attack.
2% chance on melee attack of restoring 30 energy.
Devilsaur Gaunlets:
+9 sta
+28 ap
1% crit
Devilsaur Leggings:
+12 sta
+46 ap
1% crit
Set Bonus:
2% chance to hit
Evaluation:
I thought the SS set would be much better so I spent a ton of time getting everything I needed for them. A great rogue in my guild pointed me in the other direction saying that the DS would never lead me wrong. I thought he was wrong, but being the head rogue in my guild, I was inclined to listen since he has helped me on a number of things. with my SS set - the set procs were nothing since they almost never actually happened. with my DS set - i cant go wrong with the fact that now i upped my DPS by an amazing 70 points on each hit. as for the crits, the AP bonus helps that out (granted not as much as the SS or "of the monkey's agi" but im happy with my ~20% crit rate. My job as a rogue is to deal dmg and the best things i have found for dmg are the DS items. I am a combat spec'd rogue as well btw - and i duel wield a slow blade in my main and a blazing rapier in my off hand (i recommend for off hand). I can now fulfill my job as a dmg dealer thx to the DS set - and the leather isnt too hard to farm for anyway.
thx- Elsombra <the Empire>
Garona
PS - someone else can post the exact numbers if they want - i dont have time right now :-D
评论来自
Thottbot
it's hard to compare shoulders/chest/legs with hands/legs but, here it is, bonetwister:
IMHO
120 HP > 1% dodge and 46 AP > 1% crit on leggings
2% chance to hit > stormshroud bonuses
full stormshroud gives:
5% crit, 3% dodge, 415 AC, 100 HP
2% chance on hit to restore 30 energy (very useful)
5% chance on hit to deal pity damage
full devilsaur gives:
2% crit, 74 AP, 151 AC, 210 HP, 2% hit
at 60, i now use stormshroud armor + devilsaur gauntlets + devilsaur leggings
just those 3 pieces give...
4% crit, 1% dodge, 2% hit, 74 AP, 314 AC, 210 HP
i'd say devilsaur is better than stormshroud at being an offensive AND a defensive set, i wouldnt use stormshroud unless u are a +crit maniac or if u like the 3set bonus
devilsaur is cheaper/easier to obtain also
not exactly sure if this was the information u were looking for bonetwister.. but eh..
Keldith 60 Undead Rogue, Draenor
评论来自
Thottbot
Just want to point out that these rock for Druids.
You may re-initiate your Rogue flame war now.
评论来自
Thottbot
These are also not bad for hunters. Considering that armour means very little to hunters (since its leather). In my opinion + crits and + attack power is what really matters for a hunter. Of course there are better hunter gloves and legs out there but these are pretty good for a just turned lvl 60 hunter.
评论来自
Thottbot
Good for Hunter good for Rogues good for feral druids ..
who cares for what is good?
i think every player must decide what he wears =)
评论来自
Thottbot
Rogue miss = 35 energy down the drain and a loss of a few seconds which could be crucial. The fact is that as a duel-wield rogue, you will miss ALOT and that doesn't look good for damage. IMO, +hit > +crit for PVE or combat PVP, and +crit > +hit for assass PVP.
评论来自
Thottbot
i bought the mats for this pair of gloves and got them made for me. i think that they are a very usefull/good pair of gloves. look cool to.
评论来自
Thottbot
SC set with Devilsaur gloves = the wtfpwnage... until you get to MC :D
评论来自
Thottbot
The rumored questable upgrade to SC in 1.10 is +12 Strength. +22 Agility. +9 Stamina(epic), 108 AC. That's frankly very marginally better than devilsaur gauntlets.
Boils down to:
new gloves: 34 AP, 0.7% crit, 90 hp, 130 armor.(bonus for 2 items: +8 all resist)
devilsaurs: 28 AP, 1% crit, 90 hp, 103 armor.(bonus for 2 items: +2% chance to hit)
评论来自
Thottbot
Really, nightslayer gloves and leggings are a marginal upgrade to these. Is patheta-sad a word?
DS: 74 AP, 2% crit, 2% +to hit, 21 sta.
NS gloves and pants: 73 AP, 2.76% crit, 1% +to hit, 32 sta and 7 FR, 10 SR.(5 piece bonus is the only one worth anything, and even so, it's only useful in PvP).
评论来自
Thottbot
The Devilsaur Set is VERY VERY under-rated as people tend to look down on it as "ewwwww...low50s crafted Blue item".
If you look at the stats with the +2% Hit set bonus, Devilsaur stacks up very well and craps all over the Darkmantle equivilent.
评论来自
Thottbot
Stormshroud is a 4 piece set, whereas Devilsaur is a 2 piece set, but Devilsaur is for the most part better than Stormshroud.
评论来自
Thottbot
Bought these gloves at level requirement. Kept them till level 59 when I upgraded to Darkmantle. I was surprised to see that my atk power was less, and my crit was less when equiping my Darkmantle gloves. Then I realized my Devilsaur gloves had a +7 agil enchant. So basically Devilsaur gloves with a +7 agil enchant is equal to Darkmantle gloves w/0 enchant. Pretty nice equipment for a lvl 53 rogue.
评论来自
Thottbot
were is the vendor to get the pattern?
评论来自
Thottbot
These gloves along with the pants are VERY good for feral druid, and definitely should be given consideration even if you arent a LW... just buy them. I just bought the set for 60g total on my 55 feral druid (the pants already had +8 stam enchant on them, and it would have been worth it even if they didnt).
Firstly, they are quite helpful for tanking: +ap helps with my damage, especially my damage while swiping (which is mostly what I do to keep aggro on multiple mobs). The +crit helps generate rage since every crit gives me double rage and thanks to this (and the rest of my) good armor im sitting at ~25% crit right now, which means more swiping, more damage, and more aggro. The +hit helps with rage generation as well.. missing a lot when youre tanking is bad, obviously, because youll lose aggro and have no rage.
Secondly, they are just as helpful (probably more) for dpsing. I dont think I really have to explain this one. I plan on doing some BGs at 59 and I will definitely still be wearing this set unless I can find some outland stuff with enough +ap, +crit, and +hit to rival this gear... which i am thinking is unlikely (not in my price range, anyway).
评论来自
Allakhazam
You dont have to buy them at the AH, when i was lvl 53 i went with a lvl 60 friend to ungoro to kill the big dinos that drop them, in about 1.5 hours we got 10 devilsaur leather
评论来自
Allakhazam
I made these and they sell like HOTCAKES for 45g. :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
They are great for a hunter - only drawback is that they are leather.
I can make them on Runetotem - you provide the Devilsaur leather + 25g or all mats + 8g
Geistlich (Horde Hunter)
评论来自
Allakhazam
As an early estimate, around level 55 I should have about a 25% chance to crit using a combination of Devilsaur and Stormshroud. Cheap advertisement, if you're on Blackhand and need Stormshroud, send
Chaze
a /w.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am currently crafting these on Alterac Mountains alliance. Will trade at neutral AH aswell. 30G for gloves 40G for legs.
评论来自
Allakhazam
You dont have to buy them at ah, when i was lvl 53 i went with a lvl 60 friend to ungoro, and in about 1 hour we got 10 devilsaur leather ;D
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm crafting these at European server, Emerald Dream. For a lot cheaper than median price mentioned here. Probably have made more of these than anyone else on same server. :]
So, if you want other or both of the set pieces, /w Darkpurple (Alliance side). And if you want, I can also make +40 armor on item for no extra cost - just remember to mention about it. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Have the pattern, but not the skill. ;)
But i wear them myself, really nice gloves.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can craft these on EU Emeriss, Aliance side, for mats and a small fee, wisp Mikka ingame
评论来自
Allakhazam
I want these! Where your get Rec for these?
评论来自
Allakhazam
are these any good fer a hunter?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well on my server the leather sells for about 3g a piece, so the set pieces make more profit then the leather itself, if you farm all the materials yourself, that is, which is not very hard to do at all.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is perfect together with the Stormshroud set, which I have on my druid.
The leggings, armor and shoulders from Stormshroud and these gloves, because the Stormshroud Gloves aren't really good and the 4th set bonus is +14 attack power, and these devilsaur gloves have +28. And also a little stamina so it's very nice.
I'm not lvl 60 yet and the Stormshroud gloves requires lvl 57, but these are only lvl 53 so if ur lvl 54 u have 3 pieces of Stormshroud and 1 of Devilsaur.
And together with some items of Honored AV (belt, neck, cloak) my druid pwns! =D
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