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What the Judgement set really needs is healing increase enchantments (for Holy specs like me) or strength and resistance enchantments (for Protection and Retribution specs). Personally, I think this is the best-looking Paladin armor class there is.
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Thottbot
I have a 60 Pally on Uldum and when we are short on warriors I tank a hound in the room right next to Luci. I have never lost aggro once and I am only using pvp gear. You have to realize a good player can use what blizzard set up and do it well. You can try and put it in a box and say this class is only a healer... or this class is only a support healer, but bottom line, if you play well that sh*t doesnt matter as much.
I have did a 5 man the other night in UD strat and the druid tanked. And we had no problem killing the Baron.
My guild just took down Gehennas in MC and the makeup of the group would make u all laugh. Only had 2 preists 2 druids. But we had 8 pallys and we healed our asses off and killed him. The only thing that limits a class is a crappy player.
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Thottbot
Well let me just say my little piece. Paladins such as myself either do their job or they don't, and it's more than just immature and idiotic to announce that all paladins heal only themselves, forget to buff, and try to tank/DPS. Most of us actually do know what our job is, and it annoys every single one of us when we hear retards like you people posting here %^&*!ing about paladins.
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Thottbot
lol this is going to be fun
1.) Druids, Mages, and Priests: Please Listen Up... I know your Buffs ( Arcane Intellect, Prayer of Fortitude, and Mark of the Wild) are on 30 min durations and if u use your party wide one it is 1 Hr.... But have a little sympathy and think about if your Buff had a 5 min Duration... After you experince having your buff time cut to 5 mins, Please do me a a favor and go run through MC and try to Fight and Keep everyone buffed constantly. Thank you
2.) These people are absolutly right we arent MAIN Tanks...however i usually never hear a squishie %^&*!ing if something Aggs them and My plate wearing self lumbers on over there to take the beating for them... as far as grabbing aggro like a warr. Ur right we cant... but lil Jugment of Fury and a consecration or maybe if there ia a sheep around and dont want the AoE to unsheep..use Seal of righteousness will pull agg on one target Very nicely...Which again is very helpful for pulling baddies of you squishies... I'll also say again I never hear one person &*!@#ing about my tanking ability when i roll up to take the beating for them.
3.) Lots of Pallies do Suck ass.... So do alot of every other class... But jus because i had one mage Ninja a epic from me doesnt mean All mages are ninjas ..Does it? If it does lol i hate you ninja mother#$%^ers. So please stop saying that "Paladins suck ass and never help the group and they never heal"... Like someone said earlier maybe "A lot of pallies" would be better to say.
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Thottbot
Pally's are a fun & frustating class to play.
We can tank, we can backup tank, we can heal, we can backup heal, we can call strat's, we can even kill in PVP!
Granted we are best in the backup roll. A good warrior or even a druid are better to have as main tank, and a good priest or druid for the main healer. If a pally knows his character he can kill any class his lev or a little above (doesn't mean your going to win every fight!). I know some of you are screaming BS! But with the right gear, use of talent tree, proffession, use of potions etc and strategy you can. It can take a long time to get good and you have to have multiply strategies in case the other player does something unexpected, but this goes with any class.
Yes a Pally can tank, I have done it (when I started my 1st WOW char my guild was a small one we had no priest and no warrior, so we did the job with 2 pallys, one tanked the other healed, when the healing one's mana ran out we swapped jobs). I have also seen some awesome vid's of my guild leader tanking BRD & Strath bosses as well, using seal of Fury, judge it, & put on too, & conscrate. If you having Engineering too Death Raying the boss 1st helps a lot toward gaining and holding aggro, LOL. (Warning!) If you use your Divine shield the aggro will drop! If you lose aggro start doing full heals on someone and you can get it back. It does help if the Mage or Hunter control how much damage they do! Buffing the rest of your group with salvation also helps you maintain aggro. If the hunter created too much aggro have him feign death the aggro will drop of them and back to you.
As for healing I know what some of you have said. LOL I have seen it & heard stories of pally's dying with full Mana! It has even happened to me! In situations where I got silenced or knockback or something like it and trust me I am cussing just as much as you when you die because I couldn't get my heal off!
Try not to judge too harshly on us healers in general as it is tough to be the healer or even the back up. Lots of times my party members die as during the healing channel they run out of range, or I can see them but there is a post or archway between us and it gives me a line of site error! (That one really pisses me off!) Being on the farside of the room and getting knockbacked 2 times in a row makes me mad as hell too!
The other thing to remember in the high end instances or even in lower ones the bosses can do hella damage and a 2.5 sec healing channel is an enterity! Some say will do flash then, well the flash heal takes 1 sec less but the boss is hitting for more than the flash heal gives! Especially if a cloth wear is being attacked, they can be at 1/2 HP and you start healing and they are dead before the heal gets off! This drives me up the wall! And yes I do use my shield on party members too.
Buffing! God I'd kill to have buff's that last longer than 5 min, with everything that goes on sometimes we are distracted and do forgot or haven't noticed they dropped off. I have a suggestion here. Kindly ask the pally to buff you with such and such and most of us well. Also when you get a pally in your group tell him/her right away what one you like. For me I ask my party members what they want, if they don't tell me I pick one for them that makes the most sense at the time. Also in 10, 20 and 40 man raids buff is a real pain in the ass! The 5 in your personal group are easy but the rest its crazy!
For Pally's here are a few suggestions:
A) Learn every spell, buff you can cast, what it does, when to use it and go practise it a lot til you get good at knowing when it is best to use it.
1) Do the best you can to keep everyone buffed. This makes a big difference or ppl wouldn't whine so much when they don't have their favorite buff! The same goes for what aura to use when. In groups with more than one pally or raids coordinate with all the pally's on what buffs each of you is going to be responsible for. This makes life easier for everyone.
2) Remember that cleanse removes shadow pain, dieases, poisons and a lot of other stuff don't forget to try and cleanse party members that are affected by stuff!
3) If you have a Warrior (or anyone that is tanking) in the party judging seal of light (or wisdom if there are more tahn one pally)on the mob or boss they are tanking, (this helps you and the priest conserve mana) give him Might (or Kings if that's what they want and you have it). If the warrior drops (in a 5 man team) you have been promoted to main tank get in there and pray you can finish the job with what mana you have left as if the warrior went down you either lost the priest or their mana is gone!
4) Watch the priest or druid. If their mana dries up, you have just been promoted to main healer! If the bosses adds attack them use your shield and tank the adds, that is why you have plate! Trust me once the boss dies the Warrior will be over to help.
5) Watch the Tank's health too sometimes the boss does so much damage a priest is not enough and you need to add heals to keep them alive, remember if the warrior drops, your life just got a whole lot tougher.
6) Love your job! A Pally is best in the support role, you of all the char's have the time to monitor the fight and go where and when you are most needed. No you are not great at anyhing but you are good at almost everything, you are the vanguard of your group. If the group got wiped you should be able to come up with a new strategy as you where monitoring the whole situation. I do this all the time, especially in 5 man groups. Doesn't mean every Pally can do this, but it is an option for you. Don't become a know it all everyone hates those! LOL
7) Always tell someone that died under your care why they died and tell them the truth and your sorry. I do this all the time. Most of the time I tell them I was trying to heal them when they died, I got interrupted, didn't realize how much trouble they where in till it was too late. Most people understand you where trying, its when you don't tell them anything they think you let them die or you weren't doing anything.
8) Rolling on Valor, personally as a Ret Pally I want the stuff, as the more Agi I get the better chance to crit I get, but I always ask 1st, and if a warrior wants it, they get it. If the group/s says no I pass.
9) Remember this is a game, that people are more important than anything that drops or anything they should have or shouldn't have done. That the people in this game come in all different ages and maturity levels. That some people are going to play their characters in the most awesome way and some are going to suck bad! LOL The awesome ones add to your friends lists, the sucky ones try to give a brotherly/sisterly pointer or 2 on what they can to do to be better, if done in the right it might help them!
10) Last but not least if you do something stupid own up to it right away, be apologetic, most ppl will forgive you, if you don't make a habit of it!
PS> When in AB or AV HEAL PPL!
评论来自
Thottbot
My guild started mostly as a Pally guild. Thank goodness for Fenmaja :) We have expanded considerably since then and are becoming an End-Game guild now. Long ago, we would runinstances with a 5-Pally group each with a slightly different talent tree to take advantage of all the possible spells available. We would switch off tanks and healers depending on who had mana. Most of us are now primarily Holy Spec with a few Retribution and Protection in the mix. We can still run some instances with 5 Pallies, but it is faster with a MAIN healer and a MAIN tank (a DPS squishy is great too), plus some of the bosses just have too many hitpoints for our DPS to take down before our mana runs out. Bottom line... Pallies are a great class, but it takes a team of diverse abilities to take on the big bosses.... Paladins can be great OFF-TANKS and OFF-HEALERS, and can keep a squishy alive with Blessing of Protection in a tight spot; also... Divine Intervention is the best when wiping, so we dont have to run all the way back to a boss in MC after respawns.
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Thottbot
Good god the rantin here is a sure sign of insecurity.WE pally'sare one of the best all around classes.I personally don't care what others say cause I do the job when I'm in a group i.e. tank heal buff whatever.Theres always gonna be crappy players in any class and they always give off the same odour and then we all usually get wiped.
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Thottbot
Dropped off of Vael last night in BWL. Thanks to my guildmate for passing it to me :). It's a great belt for a shockadin/healadin.
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Thottbot
this belt completely sucks
lets see, by comparison to its lawbringer counterpart, it has:
LESS strength/stamina/spirit
the exact same amount of intellect
a measly +5 extra healing, (omfg you noob it all adds up!1!oneone)
about +60 armour which makes no difference whatsoever in the long run, especially when you will hardly ever be called on to tank anything end game if you are in a well equipped guild with enough warriors, certainly nothing that the +60 armour will make a remote difference against
+10 shadow resistance, which is nice but isn't anywhere near as useful in the game as fire resistance
a pally in my guild blew all of his DKP on this when he had the lawbringer belt, how i laughed
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Thottbot
its not that the belt really SUCKS its that its not as good as it should be...but if i had all of judgment other than belt and i had a choice between J blet or LB belt...i would choose J belt...i guess because of the set bonus
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Thottbot
If a void walker can tank MC a protection spec pally sure can! look it up on google vidio..
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Thottbot
We have good drop rate. Paladin and mage drops. (But no priest for more than 1 moths now. :( so sad
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Thottbot
Ran BWL 11 times but it was no drop. (sad)
Think Blizzard should make the drop rate a bit over 15% or evern higher.
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Thottbot
Er....Have you ever heard of something called Righteouss Defense?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got mine off vael finally =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yea I got the belt last Saturday while in MC. I'll post up the visual when I get a chance.
评论来自
Allakhazam
As of the last patch all judgement armor except the helm has been moved to Blackwing Lair, the raid instance in UBRS, this instance will be implemented in a future patch.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hey, Doesn't this look different now that 1.9 pacth is out?
Please Reply, Or post a newer pic. thanks.
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped as well
funny linking it in IF as WTS...
first tier3 on Ner'zhul
First Judgement is Tier 2 (Lawbringer is tier 1) Tier 2 being the better set thus the fact that the pieces are all Bind On Pickup and not Equip. Second there is no Tier 3.
Third thats me in that Anonymous picture up there ^^
p.s. I'll sumbit the picture of the bracers when I get a chance ^^
Edited, Thu Apr 14 10:22:55 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
plate skirt lol,looks kinda lame
but rest of the set looks cool
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped as well
funny linking it in IF as WTS...
first tier3 on Ner'zhul
评论来自
Allakhazam
How do you know which is what tier... It seems to me like the purple sets are about equal.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dwarf paly in 1.9 Judgement
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评论来自
Allakhazam
I ment on a Girl paly, Didn't See the last post..
>.<
评论来自
Allakhazam
8/8 judgement pic
http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=judge0ed.jpg
Edited, Tue Oct 11 04:42:10 2005
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