评论来自 3864

Drops off Emeriss (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=14889).

评论来自 Thottbot

Daggers +6, this would definately benefit a rogue more than it would a druid.

评论来自 Thottbot

one of the revised talents in 1.8 gives feral specced druids +20% stamina in bear form.

评论来自 Thottbot

in endgame raiding druids get hit even less than rogues, and the 20% of 38 is 7.6, meaning that druids can get a whole 70hp more out of this than rogues. on the other hand, in endgame raids druids don't benefit at all from either the +agi or the +daggers, while rogues benefit from at least the +agi, or both for dagger rogues. all in all, i dont really think that a druid should be allowed to get this over a rogue.

评论来自 Thottbot

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9241/wowscrnshot1024050024150db.jpg

For anyone wondering how it looks

Klauz - Al'Akir

评论来自 Thottbot

The +6 daggers is not that big of a buff. It's far less than 1% crit or 1% chance to hit. Rogues have many other options in head gear. Any guild that can take down these dragons is clearing MC, at the very least. So they have access to Nightslayer. Druids don't have anything remotely close to this helm. Regardless, if a rogue wants it that much, spend the DKP. Don't expect things to get defaulted to you because of your class. If a druid wants it and wants to spend the DKP, good for him.

There are MANY druids who melee in end game instances. They reason you don't see more is because of gear. There are so few items that feral druids have to choose from. This happens to be one of them.

评论来自 Thottbot

Why does an item with this much stamina have +6 daggers... makes it very oriented towards rogues, when feral tanking/off-tanking druids with HotW could make insane use out of this?

Oh well.

评论来自 Thottbot

Good pvp helm for rogues I guess, if you throw a 100hp enchant on there. Survivability is important. Druids despite the +6 dagger stat would benefit tremedously from this item. All the stamina, the armor plus the agility (extra armor) adds 1 dodge and crit.

Get a libram of protection, stick that on this here and you'll be golden.

评论来自 Thottbot

you know this thing looks cool but man i have a rogue... (I'm a WoW geek) level 60 and i got bloodfang... N' this isnt my characters name. oh ya back to the item. if your level 60 and have this my advice, get bloodfang

评论来自 Thottbot

Since druids HEAL in end game and rogues DPS (YOU should be in an end game guild if you can take down emmeriss) Which means that a rogue should get this particular item over druids...Sure if the rogue has this then a druid can take it for pvp in the future...But until that day Rogues should get this baby...BTW emmeriss Druid loots are the staff of rampant growth

And the Daggers +6 Solitifies this

评论来自 Thottbot

Yes, this item screams rogues, druids, whatever. We can put the +6 to daggers aside, but that is one thing you need to look at as a dagger rogue.

Not sure how many rogues know this, but if you have +6 or more to daggers then you will never get a glancing hit on any MC mobs, all direct damage, which is a major plus. That will go along with BWL mobs as well.

I would definately take this item as a dagger rogue, it has nice agi, stam, but the plus to daggers is just too nice.

评论来自 Thottbot

ANYONE who says a roge doing BWL or end game should have better than this helm doesnt know about his class (if he is a rogue). If its a non rogue saying a rogue should have better than he doesnt know what he is talking about for sure. NO DOUBT in PVE against a LVL 62+ MoB a rogue should be wearing this OVER bloodfang. The + daggers makes a HUGE difference in rogue damage due to the damage mitigation against a lvl62+ mob (meaing glancing blows). Its long but BOTH DRUIDS AND ROGUES should read this and then decide who should be getting it http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-rogue&T;=1038085&P;=1... Only druid that should be getting this over a rogue is if the rogue is NOT dagger spec and is NOT combat spec, other than that a dagger rogue will benifit the greatest out of this. "shakes head" at druid loot %^&*!s.

P.S. the + daggers is useless in PVP.

LEARN THE GAME (NOOBS)

评论来自 Thottbot

made some spelling mistakes in my previous post, if you want to jump on that cool, but the facts stand on who should be getting first priority on it, flame on the spelling as you will, the rest is a closed conversation as far as I am concerned.

评论来自 Thottbot

Any Feral Druid trying to claim priority on this piece of gear most likely isn't even in an endgame guild with the ability to take the dragon down that drops this, and even if they were, the guild would most likely be using DKP, which means no chance at a roll for druids, and they'd also most likely be shut out of the bidding.

Lrn2Endgame before you start chiming in with your "ZOMGFERALGEAR" bull#$%^. LMAO.

评论来自 Allakhazam

38 stam on a leather headpiece mwwwwwwwaaah. Get a libram and that's almost 500hp on one slot... is that right? That can't be right. Is that right?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Druids need to mind their hardon from all of the latter game drops. Just because it has Agility and Stamina doesn't make it best suited for you. This helm is designed for a PvE rogue who wants stamina. Not for PvP. +Dagger skill helps negate glancing blow damage loss against end game elites and bosses. Not much else. Hardly any effect in PvP vs. what other stats could do for you. So for rogues who are dedicated to PvE and use daggers, this is for you. Druids, you have soooo many drops off the World Dragons. Stfu about this one.

评论来自 Allakhazam

im a 60 rogue with full teir 2 and 1 peice of teir 3 (shoulders) and all i gotta say is that i like this helm becuz of good agil and stam and with me being a pvp spec rogue and i use fist weapons so that +dag is kinda useless in most cases.

评论来自 Allakhazam

just about every epic added today is from the four raid dragons ^_^

评论来自 Allakhazam

Drops from Emeriss.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9241/wowscrnshot1024050024150db.jpg

That's me! Klauz of Al'Akir - I'm now an Indian! \o/

PS: The +daggers is very useful for PvE, it reduces the chance of you getting glancing hits on mobs. So in BWL etc., it's golden.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Edited, Mon Oct 24 13:37:21 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm a noob

评论来自 Allakhazam

now makes rogue look like druids :) silly headresses
kinda of ruins the threat of a rogue with feathers in his hair
*grin*

评论来自 Allakhazam

+6 daggers is a fantastic pve stat and makes it better than bf for dagger rogues in endgame raids.

评论来自 Allakhazam

*!@#ing lub for the druids! :)))))

评论来自 Allakhazam

To those of you who think +daggers is a waste: learn something about end-game pve, or shut up. In PvE, melee classes are typically on the top(rogues and warriors) and their damage is (most of the time) based on what we call "white damage", meaning non-special attacks. A constant flow of these is what makes a combat sword rogue, or a dual-wielding warrior good at dps in all end-game instances. Whenever you deal white damage to an enemy above your own lvl, you have a certain chance of getting a glancing blow, meaning your damage is massively reduced. On a lvl 63 enemy(bosses are lvl 63, they might have more hp and damage, but when it comes to calculating armor and damage, they are 63) the chance of getting a glancing blow is fairly big.

When you have 10+ to the weapon you are using, 310 weapon skill, that is. Then you will get NO reduction in your damage, whatsoever, caused by glancing blows on any mob or boss, currently in the game(I haven't really paid any particular attention to this in Naxx, but the rules are the same there). This head, and the core leather gloves, will prove one of the strongest combinations in the game, for a pve dagger rogue, and it totally owns bloodfang. A little extra crit, and AP, can't compensate for the huge increase in white damage, you get from wearing this thing. And besides, 10+ weapon skill, also means 1.6+ crit and hit.

There isn't really anything to discuss, ofc, both hunter and druid can benefit from the stamina and agi on this thing, but 6+ daggers makes this thing one of the best heads for end-game PvE.

Edited, Jul 27th 2006 at 9:00am EDT by Cuddrow

评论来自 Allakhazam

talk about PVP rogue gear..

评论来自 Allakhazam

nice 4 pvp

评论来自 Allakhazam

a drop? made? bought? and from where? is it real?

the stats are pretty good. no wait, theyre awesome.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This head piece is great for feral druids but come on guys do we need the +6 to daggers? no we dont and do we NEED the 21 agility? sure we can use agility very well in cat form but we are much better focusing on strength gear so pls if this drops consider that it is for rogues. But if i got the chance to have this head piece i would take it becasuse the armor count is so high and the stamina is so high its a great bear form item.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is not a druid item.

Eye of Rend
13 STR = 26 AP
7 STA
2% Crit.

Sure the armor is like 32 more (like 100 more in bear). The Stamina is the only reason to get this and that's a pretty shiesty reason.

Edited, Thu May 4 18:10:50 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Totally a rogue item, Agility is nice but strength is better for feral druids... daggers = nothing for feral druids, if a druid rolls against a rogue on this he should die

评论来自 Allakhazam

I believe this helm have the highest stamin possible except helm of wrath and dreadnaught.

评论来自 kinggrantking

For people curious about this item these days, you should know that this is 100% priority on druid tanks, not dagger rogues, for a few reasons.

1. Even if a guild member is a good dagger rogue, they are going to get the +skill to daggers from Aged Core Hound Leather Gloves, which are BiS while this helm is not. The extra +1 skill to daggers will not benefit a dagger rogue anywhere near enough to be worth the lack of other stats.
2. The stats on this item are perfect for a druid tank, and not-so-perfect for a rogue. A tank druid's other options include rank 13 helm, Mask of the Unforgiven, and Bone Ring Helm, each of which are nowhere near as good. A rogue should be wearing Tier 2 by phase 5, 100%

Druids need this item so badly it's insane. If your guild is capable of tagging and downing the world dragons, it should definitely have the wherewithal to give this item to a feral tank.

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