Where's a good place to get this? I assumed that the higher the level monster the more knothide leather (over leather scraps) id get, but it doesnt seem to be the case. The drop rate seems to be about 20% on any skinnable mob, which is really poor and makes for frusterating farming.
So far my best results have come from Talbuk Thorngrazers with a little over 50% drop rate.
I've found a good place to farm these (at level 70) is from the Barbscale Crocolisks in Ecodome Midream in Netherstorm.
I think the most profitable way to farm this would be to find an area that non-elites drop more than one piece at a time. From what I've seen, the nonelite trash in the Black Morass will drop 2-3 scraps or full pieces. If anyone else finds a spot like this, post!
Try skinning mobs lvls 66+ to get a higher % of knothide leather as opposed to the scraps.
No mob will give Heavy Knothide Leather when skinned, that is only craftable with LW skill and 5 knothide leather = 1 heavy knothide leather.
Combine leather farming with other valuable item drops such as motes (of any kind except shadow and maybe life) for max profit.
The drop rate in BM used to be great but I heard they nerfed it thoroughly so I wouldn't bet on it anymore its a long way to go.
In my experience, drop rate is about 26 percent from Bull Elekk, based on 328 kills. Although the listing includes Ripfang Linx as a good source of Knothide Leather, I would not recommend grinding on them for two reasons: first, the drop rate is worse than that from Bull Elekks, second, they are much harder to kill.
Blackwind Sabercats have the highest drop percentage of non elite mobs. You will need a flying mount to reach them. Unfortunately they have a small population.
Clefthoof bulls in Nagrand only have a 30% drop rate, but there is also a 30% chance they will skin some thick clefthoof leather. This sells very well on the AH. In among the bulls are elementals that drop motes and wild Eleks that drop Consortium rep items.
Thick clefthoof leather:
Ive been killing Talbuk Throngrazers
like 4-5 at a time with a healer and I'm hunter for a set of 5 kills i usally get 4 Knothide Leathers. I kill the ones in the northern lakes wheres theres like 5-7 close togther. Also there yellow so easy to manage
I had gone to BM, thinking I was so clever with the thought I could just kill the first three crocs near the entrance, reset the instance, and repeat without having to worry about running around and aggro'ing other unnecessary mobs. While that was a generally clever plot, the crocs hit crazy hard and fast and in the end only dropped x2 or x3 Knothide Leather Scraps. (Though I did get lucky and one dropped, gasp, 1 whole Knothide Leather!) I became distraught after thirty minutes.
I've had much better luck with the Talbuk Thorngrazers. My favourite spot is a peninsula below Garadar. Whenever I go, it seems there are no Clefthoof Bulls or elementals roaming on that particular piece of land. :)
The best place for Knothide leather is Nagrand Talbuk Thorngrazer's Cords 52.2,46.5 Now although they drop alot of scraps they are easily killed and there are hundreds in this area and the re-spawn rate is awesome. I Grinded 300 Knothide leather in just over a hour.
Go to the eco-dom midrealm. (45, 52) and kill the ripfang lynx. They drop a 50%+ droprate or knothide leather.
I suppose another viable solution is farming Black Morass. Altough the droprate has been nerfed and the mobs hit quite hard, a decently geared farming character can make a good profit there from skinning and netherweb silk, especially if (s)he brings summoned food.
Nagrand, Thorngrazers are easy to kill and i get stacks of knothide leathers in like 2hrs. Enjoy gathering and have fun! :)
i found either the lions cats up by sylvanaar in bloods edge mts or the talbuks in nagrand have good skin rate of knothide leathers
tried cats drop rate is low and the cats are scattered apart. tried Barbscale Crocolisks better drop rate and not as scattered.
Go to Netherstorm, from there go to the Farfield Echodome, its at: 45, 11 (generally in that area), the droprate so far, has been very good for me within the last 5 mins on every skin that is :).
See yaz bye.
One of the best places I've found by far is Oronok's Farm, just north east of the Altar of Sha'tar in SMV. The Domesticated Felboars have a very high % to drop knothide leather, with an added bonus of no trash loot so grinding them is quick and easy. Even if you aren't well geared and end up taking quite a bit of damage, Horde players will get healed by Oronok. :P
I managed to get 20 Knothide Leather in about 5-7 minutes. :)
Agree with all the posts on BM. heres what i suggest trying. I jumped in a group that was running reg, we blew through it 3 times. i skinned everything possible, and walked away with over 5 stacks. the drop rates are good on the non elites, and the elites usually drop 2 pieces each. if you can get in a group doing this on reg, they might be looking for certain drops, its so quick and easy that you can run it over and over.
Zones + Farmers = PVP. instance farming is undisturbed.
if at all possible, be the only skinner.
i think the best place is nagrand, just between the throne of elements and garadar... talbuk thorngrazers had an exceptional skin rate of about 94%... in less than 30 minutes i killed about 50 and only 3 didn't drop knothide leather, but knothide leather scraps, 2-3 per time... it's a skinner's heaven there...
any thoughts on the best place to farm these as a rogue? nagrand?
Damn the 2.1 change, BM was such a nice outlet for leathers. :(
since patch 2.1 Black Morass mobs do not drop multible leather anymore. :(
Nagrand is good. I also like farming in Netherstorm near The Crumbling Waste. There are Phase Hunters and Nether Rays there that drop Knothide 100% of the time when skinned (or that's what I've found). I like farming there cause it's good for gold farming too, as they also drop motes of mana
After an hour of farming I walked away with 43 Knothide Leather and 22 Motes of Mana or 2.2 Primal Mana. As well as about 10 gold worth of useless stuff.
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Everywhere, anything you can skin in Hellfire Peninsula or Zangarmarsh drop knothide leather scraps/knothide leather/fel leather.
The best place to farm knothide leather is in the Black Morass.
Its in an instance so there is an unlimited amount of mobs and no competition or pvp.
The mobs can and frequently drop up to 3 knothide per kill. Plus stackable vendor trash with the occasional lvl 65+ blue and greens. You can also repair, buy food/water at the vendors who are right outside.
I think that nagrand is probably the best place to farm leather both knothide and clefthoof(which sells for a ton om my server, Warsong)
There are 100000k sninable animals walking around and like 80% are yellow.
This area is like the ferelas of azeroth IMHO
So if u want some easy cash, come home one day make your self a nice cup of Earl Grey, turn on your favorite music and just farm these beasties for 3 hours straight... also think of all the grey junk u get to sell. It might get a bit boarding but hey...
There's a small lake southeast of Garadar. Many drop
If you are 70 and have decent skills go to Black Morass. I went in there with a group and we cleared out all the trash in there while waiting for a party member. I was the only skinner and got about 5 stacks just from one run. 4 Green items dropped too. Really nice farming spot if you can survive the mobs. (Tougher and more HP than normal) But stay away from Medivh. I plan on going back there solo to see what I come out with.
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P.S. Prolly shouldn't have told you that, but most people will probably not be in there to farm leather due to the fact that you have to do Escape from Durnholde first to be able to even enter Black Morass.
In Netherstorm near "The Crumbling Wastes" area there are Phase Hunters which are skinnable and also drops Mote of Mana as an added bonus.
I farmed in both places and i think that the place NE
of gardar on the western side of lake is better than BM.... has eaiser mobs... (iam a 70 feral druid) like BM I got regular knothide leahter or 3 knothide scraps... however if i got an add i typically lived but more than that id die and things never lose aggro so you have to run out of the instance if you want to lose aggro and mobs close to gardar are easier and faster to kill
IMO go NE of garder in nagrand to farm knothide leather
hope this helps hehe
no, he meant WEST of garadar, and slightly north - talbuks all over the place, usually 3 or 4 around each tree with tons lining the lakeside - I've been farming there while 3 other people (usually hunters) have been doing the same, and there's still virtually no competition for mobs - they respawn fast enough and there's just so many of them.
Plus, they are neutral to you so you can pick and choose your fights - you only need to worry about the clefthoofs sometimes aggro'ing to you, but that's a bonus in and of itself, as you get a good chance at skinning thick clefthoof leather.
Im a 67 hunter at the moment so i have not tried the black morass but i will vouch for the spot in Nagrand, you can pick and choose your fights and you can take down more than one at a time. Also you can get mote of air and earth from the elementals that run around the area as an added bonus if you want to kill those that stand in the way of your skinning prey. The Talbuks have the highest drop rate but take down the clefthoofs for their leathers also. seems like a 1/6 drop for me on the clefthoof leather and about 1/2 or 1/3 drop on the knothide from the Talbuks. That is what i was getting from about an hour of grinding i had 3 stacks of knothide and 10 clefthoof, and managed 1 and half primal air(but i was not really going for the airs). Hope this helps
I farm 20 in 30 min. in Nagrand. I am a hunter 70.
I killed Clefhoof (lvl 65) and Talbuk Stag (65)
Nagrand /tloc 61,47 and around.
I hope it will help
I trained tailoring to 375 and am now doing LW, currently at 355, and I am here to tell you that as long as you skin every beast you kill, you should hardly ever be short on knothide leather for LW. There's just no comparison. I'm farming Heavy Clefthoof leather now, and I have knothide coming out my ears. I have more than I know what to do with.
If anything, it's the Primal Earths and Primal Airs that will give you trouble when leveling LW in the 350+ phase. On the other hand, Nagrand is chock-full of air and earth elementals. Killing them while killing the clefthoofs really helps there. On my server, the primal airs run 20g a pop, so you pretty much have to farm them all unless you like being broke.
Best Place to farm IMO ,
Netherwing Ledge, In the mines..
Nobody skin the mobs in there and they are very easy to solo , Just from today I got 48 Heavy Knothide from there
About Black Morass : It seems that the more people in the group, the more leather they drop.
I tryed to go there solo, and barely got a couple leather, very bad drop, as someone stated above
Then i tryed dual boxing there with another char (team of 2) and they were droping 1 leather per mob
Then i read the person above saying in a 5 man group he was geting 2-3 per mob
i suspect the drop rate to be 100% - (20% x number of people missing in the group)
If I am a 62 hunter where is the best place to skin for the knothide leather?
okay I just want to know how high your skinning needs to be to get these leather pieces.... they should be able to be skinned that is kinda odd if you can only get leather off of a drop
wow the easiest place to farm the knothide leather is right out side of thunderlorde strongholde where all the wvyerns and wolfs are. they are really low so easy to solo without stopping and also they normally always drop a knothide leather so far anyways
Im 64 Hunter and i recomend grinding through underbog lots. If you can get a good group together you can go all the way through in around an hour and walk out with a minimum of a stack. I got NO scraps and some doubles.
First, the scraps to leather skill is now trainable @ 300 from the regular training section.
Second, thotbot doesn't/can't distinguish between looted items and those aquired with a gathering profession. This really only screws up skinning, cause you can't kill flowers, or mineral nodes and loot them.... (except you can "skin" the tree dudes in sketis)
So, since most people don't skin, and even skinners don't always bother....the stated drop rate is much lower than in reality.
look up the mob to get the ratio for scraps/leather/other types of leather
And on behalf of skinners everywhere PLEASE LOOT YOUR KILLS!
I agree! Theres nothing more frustrating than seeing a whole heap of dead beasts but not being able to skin them! You get vendor trash, we get leather, you get a better chance of us being able to make you some thing pretty.
I'm sure a few people have mentioned it, but here are a few great places to farm knothide depending on your level.
If you're in the low 60's, stick with hellfire, skin all the boars. most only give scraps, but they're very easy and they're all over the place. also, there's ravagers on your way to shatt that'll drop fel hides as well. the leather scraps are annoying, but you'll definitely get some knothide pieces as well.
At mid 60's, go to nagrand. there's the talibuts, the clefthoof which give cleft leather as well, and ya, elementals running all around to give you primals you'll need to start making some serious patterns down the road. I find one of the best areas to be directly to the east of Telaar. go across the bridge and you've got yourself a field day of Clefthoof and Tali's running around all over the place. a tiny bit south and you've got rumblers that'll give motes of earth, as well as an ogre camp a tiny bit souhteast of the brudge crossing. i farm my leather, get my primals, and get warbeads for rep with the consortium and the Kurunai at the same time.
once you're up in your high 60's, go to blades edge or netherstorm. you'll get less and less scraps, more consistent knothide leather, and in netherstorm the phase hunters drop mana mote which go for a nice price on my server.
I'm a level 70 Bm/MM hunter, and i use my leather for mainly clefthoof armor kits. you'll need some heavy leather, 8 pieces of cleft leather, and 4 primal earths, but i usually sell these for about 60-80g a piece because my servers has a ton of twinks that use these kits for like level 19's. they usually sell in about an hour tops.
i find that they Celestial ridge in netherstorm is awesome. there's a ton of netherdrakes running around, you'll get knothide on almost every one, not the scraps, and you'll start farming neth dragonscales which sell for a fortune on my server. For me, i use the scales in patterns, but in the past when i sold them i would get about 80g for stacks of 20.
Happy hunting and skinning everyone, best of luck, hope what i said was useful for a few of the folks new to the outlands.
I cant believe nobody has mentioned Oronok's Farm in SMV! Its a tiny enclosed space (30 yard diameter) with 5 boars and they are constantly respawning, I am a level 70 hunter and with pet on aggressive he didnt stop for an hour and I was 9 stacks better off...Try it, you wont be disappointed.
ZOMG, thats the best info anyone has posted. The domesticated felboars there spawn fast enough to always give you a target, 80% of the drops are knothide leather with a couple of scraps every now and then and, the best part, you dont have to loot then skin them out. Its just straight out skin when they are dead. Yes, you dont get to farm those greens and rares while your skinning but, to power level your skinning and leatherwork, this is the place to be if you dont want to have to find a vendor every 20 minutes to dump horns, claws, tusks and the other array of general crap that fills your bags so fast normally.
One other thing. Oronok does healing waves periodically with around 3K of healing, so don't use bandages until you absolutely have to.
Couple of tips:
AV! The elite wolves guarding drekk skin for knothide leather very reliably (if they dont they drop 3 scraps). Be the one to kill the wolves and skin them. If the raid fails to take down drekk the wolves respawn.... yes you can skin them again!
Blades Edge: Kill boars in the huge boar field north of ogrila, farm here for when you need felscales (best drop rate I've ever seen).
Netherstorm: Kill Artifact Seekers in the ruins for knothide, fel hide, aldor marks & aldor armaments simultaneously. If you sell everything you loot you will make a fortune. I got 4 armaments in an hour that sell for 40g each.
Oronok's Farm in SMV is without a doubt THE best place to farm knothide leather. The domesticated boars only rarely drop scraps, and there were only a few times where I actually had to wait more than 5 seconds for the boars to respawn. Also, the grind is quick, since you don't have to loot the mobs--they don't drop anything. It makes it that much more efficient if you're trying to keep up slice and dice all the time.
Also, as far as healing is concerned, at first I thought Oronok only healed once you were below 50%. Then I figured out it was only because of the spawn locations that it seemed that way. If you move the mobs within his cone of vision as you're fighting them, he will often heal you. There were plenty of times where he healed me to 100%, and after I figured that out, I never dropped below 60%. You are pretty much guaranteed not to have to bandage or eat.
The only thing that might interfere are the regular flayer invasions. About every 20 or 30 minutes, 3 of them will descend on the camp and attack either a boar or the elite pet. Most of the time they will be intercepted by the pet; if not, Oronok will kill them himself when they attack a boar. Don't bother them and they won't bother you.
You can farm ridiculous amounts of leather here. I was getting about 4 to 5 stacks per half hour. Surprised it hasn't been nerfed yet.
ive been farming these in negrand for a while. IMO the best thing to do is kill ALL the mobs (not just talbucks) and if youre high enough lvl kill bachlor and the elete clefthoof (i cant remember his name), they drop either 3 leathers or 1, never scraps.
a good place for knothide is netherstorm. kill the mana guys and they usually drop knothide leather, rarely any scraps. The mote of mana is an extra plus, very easy farm bizzzzz
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