Probably won't see that much of this weapon anyways, 8 primal mights is a tad bit on the extreme side. Most likely there will be better BoP items to be found at lvl 70.
It would be great if this was an upgradeable item much like the Thunder set and Moon set weapons that Blacksmiths make.
As far as mats go its not that bad when compared to similar level recipes.
I just got that mace on my Druid, its lovely..
Just need some updated graphics, anyway.. I suggest you gridn the Primal nether's before you begin on everything else, those 2 parts are the hardest to get and the one that makes the mace HAVE to be with on the run and get them since they are BoP..
Easily the best healing weapon in the game right now. Getting 8 Primal Mights should be the hardest part, but having a guildie with the Transmute Specialty in Alchemy would make this (possibly) trivial. Grats to the lucky crafters who get this plan! =D
It's not the best in the game. This is the best entry-level mace, but Prince Malchezaar drops something better, or at least it's better for some classes; paladins and shamans might not like it because they strongly prefer mana/5 to spirit:
And if the mats for this Hand of Eternity are a bit steep for you, you can consider two alternatives that are only slightly inferior:
Shard of the Virtuous
, from Maiden of Virtue
Gavel of Pure Light
, from Exalted Sha'tar + 191g
It really all depends on how you spec your class. I have had the priveledge or grouping with fantastic paladins that blow me out of the water, as well as amazing druids, and on occassion I have been known to be fairly impressive as well.
I myself have 1798 bonus healing buffed, and slightly over 10k mana unbuffed. I designed my character for healing but compensated on a few stats in the process.
Also, I agree with Zombiepope, it's not as easy to say 'spirit is the number one stat for healers' or 'bonus healing is' or 'intellect is', in the BC it all depends on where you're heading to and yes, you may need to make some adjustements to your gear for seperate dungeons.
For instance, I have large heals, but a relatively limited mana pool to play around with. A good priest friend of mine spec'd himself entirely different within the discipline and holy trees and has an enormous amount of mana but weaker heals. We both have our moments to shine in the BC and adjust ourselves according to the situations we find ourselves in.
I think the real question isn't which you should get, but which can you get. Hand of Eternity can be obtain thru farming and gold. Meanwhile, the mace from the Maiden and Price in KZ requires a solid 10-men group.
The real entry-level mace should be the 5 rare one hand mace all with +227 healing:
- Hillsbrad heroic
- Shatter Hall
- World Drop / A.H.
- A.Crypt heroic
The next level mace should be epics drop/craft/exalted rep:
- Sha'tar Exalted
- Prince in KZ
- Maiden in KZ
- SL (Murmur) in Heroic
- World drop / A.H.
Hand of Eternity owners rejoice!!!
This item is receiving an all new look in patch 2.1
Here's what it looks like on the PTR
Is this healing mace getting buffed in 2.1? I saw the other maces are buffed up.
Blizzard finally changed the ugly level 1 mace skin for this weapon in patch 2.1; however, these looks came with a price. Now you need an additional 10 khorium bars and 2 more primal nethers. It wouldn't be so bad if they buffed the weapon, but they didn't. With the significant upgrades that the weapons in Karazhan got, you'd be much better off going for Gavel of Pure Light (exalted Sha'tar). It will be much cheaper to run Mech over and over than farm for this puppy. The Gavel also has stamina and one more mp5 on it.
I'm pretty disappointed. This weapon used to be on par with the stuff in Kara, which made it nice for a casual player that didn't raid. Primal nethers aren't as difficult to get anymore, but this weapon is still way overpriced to craft.
Total mats needed and price (based on wowhead prices.)
10 Khorium bar, 50g
- 20 Khorium ore, 40g
4 Hardened Adamantite Bar, 80g
- 40 Adamantie Bar, 80g
- 80 Adamantie ore, 96g
10 Eternium Bar, 50g
- 20 Eternium Ore, 36g
8 Primal Might, 760g
- Primal Earth, 36g
- Primal Water, 160g
- Primal Air, 244g
- Primal Fire, 200g
- Primal Mana, 160g
Total of 940g, but this changes alot from server to server.
thats one lovely + healing on a one handed
4 Hardened Adamantite Bars
10 Eternium Bars
8 Primal Might
2 Primal Nether
and Weaponsmith Skill 365 is nothing special.....
i´ll post ya all when i get it.
I have can make this on US Vashj. PST if interested
Read closer people, this does not require weaponsmithing - thus all level 365 blacksmiths can make this providing they are one lucky mofo and win these plans by some rare act of God. I was given mine by a reeeeally great friend, and she is getting the first one free of charge once I get some primal nethers.
My friend finished crafting this for me a few days ago. I hope Blizzard changes the graphic (not holding my breath,) but there is something charming about carrying an inconspicuous block of wood around with purple judgment gear...
four nethers are you *!@#ing kidding me blizz? Thats a rip off seriusly! will take like 2-3 weeks to get those maybe even more if you dont win the rolls (like me, 36 Badge of juctice and 3 nethers) Make it one so ppl can get use of this and not only being the thing you show when you want to roll on the nethers!
Can craft this on Proudmoore, Alliance
Wanting this crafted on Khadgar, Alliance side. Toon name: Seifker. Have all mats except the nethers. Drop me a line.
4 Hardened Adamantite Bars
10 Eternium Bars
8 Primal Might
2 Primal Nether
and Weaponsmith Skill 365 to build this masterpiece.
Edited, Nov 22nd 2006 9:04pm by Moguntius
you can view who can craft this on your realm or add yourself as a crafter!
DonHuan, Human Paladin - Deathwing
I have the plan and can craft it for you. Horde trade can be arranged.
I heard the Rumor is that the Graphic will be changed to the Sand Polished Hammer? Anyone confirm?
Anyone on Nagrand able to make this for me?
Will tip well!
I can craft this mace on Silvermoon, Alliance side. (Horde deal can be made ofc)
I only take 500 gold for the Nethers crafting is free. (so it's not rly free i know xD )
Is there any1 who can make this on SkullCrusher EU.
Whisper Darthillian then please.
Anyone able to make this on Velen realm, Alliance side? PST to Paramedix or Bambang.
Realm: Runetotem (Alliance)
Feel free to ask to craft. bring mats
above post is only average price on my server(The Scryers) prices may vary on others.
I can craft on Dethecus Horde side. PST or mail Tanalin. 100g per nethers is all I ask, so 400g plus your mats.
Edited, Feb 11th 2008 10:22am by Vortar
can make this. email me
Edited, Feb 26th 2007 5:13am by Dinodin
Ownopotamus can craft this on Dentarg (Alliance).
"Hot off the Anvil'" >>
The Scryers Server
<< You supply all mats and pay me for the Primal Nether and Labor. 500g on average
Creation cost breakdown: On The Scryers Server * all prices extracted at the low end of AH cost
Khorium Bar(10) avg cost per 8g x 10 = 80g
Hardened Admantite Bar(4) avg cost per 12g x 4 = 48g
Eternium Bar(10) avg cost per 4g x 10 = 40g
Primal Might(8) avg cost per 85g x 8 = 680g
Primal Nether(4) avg cost per 90g x 4 = 360g
Total Cost of mats on Avg. = (1208 - 1300g)
My Cost on Time for Farming Primal Nethers = (100g + Primal Nethers 400g = 500g) when all other mats are supplied.
My Cost on Time for Farming all Mats and crafting = (1700g)
This includes Time and Repair cost for gathering Primal Nethers from Dungeons which are soulbound and must be acquired by the Blacksmith.
Edited, Dec 26th 2007 2:38pm by Fhaetona
Unduil Horde Dalvynger 500g to craft with ur mats for nether+crafting
Can craft this on the horde side, Kilrogg server.
Look up Vaccaro, also have several other epic weapon plans.
anyone have a screen of this?
Looking to have this crafted on Horde side Kael'Thas. Have all mats, and will pay well for the nethers...pst or mail Aerandire and/or Jamond. Extra tip if you can get it crafted by a deadline of this Saturday (7/21/07).
Got the plans now, it looks like that lvl 1 mace when u create new priest char, rly hope for better graphics soon... apart from 2x primal nether, mats ain't that hard compared to having +317 heal (+some enchant) on 1h weapon
Server: Twisting Nether
I can Craft it on Shadowmoon realm /w Apendix if u want
Can craft one on Draenor ally side.
ya i have this weapon, its real nice, and it did change look, its real cool now
I can craft the Hand of Eternity,
Blackwing Lair server
message me in game if you are interested in buying one, right now i require others bring the BoE mats, but after i sell a few and get enough money to craft my own, that will be available too.
and it doesnt require weaponsmithing, i'm an armorsmith and was able to learn this pattern.
I can craft the Hand of Eternity. PST if interested!
Want it. Holla at me
4 Hardened Adamantite Bars
10 Eternium Bars
8 Primal Might
2 Primal Nether
and Weaponsmith Skill 365 to build this masterpiece. Plan seems to be a world drop.
if anyone at kilrogg alliance EU can craft this beautiful mace, /w drblood
I can now craft this weapon on Kaelthas alliance. Currently have the nethers for this weapon which has better stats than The Ancient Scepter of Sue Min with +317 healing vs +299 and +20 int vs +15 . At current ah prices the mats, not counting the nethers, run about 900g. Takes 4 nethers. Pst in game if interested
the +healing on it at first was at +300 but went up to +317, if anyone wants to know.
A MH with over +300 in healing is very nice, it makes any hybrid healer a much better healer with out the strangulation of mana. As for the mats required, it's epic... what do you expect?
In many end raid guild this is what as known as the 'tide turner' the item that makes 'the button' when working an instance.
The only CON to this item is that it is neither socketed, nor does it have a high mana regeneration rate.
(primal nether) is not much of a problem for most blacksmiths to get since every instance required a Main Tank, and many warriors are also blacksmiths.
Upon equipping this, make sure to look for an adequate offhand that helps regenerate your mana consumption. There are many shields for Pals' and Shamans alike out there, make sure to do both for balanced use.
wery bad graphic
Quote: "This thing really sucks nowadays." "Not worth 4 primal Nethers at all."
I object that, for some people, like me, dislike raiding and some people, also like me, dislike pvp, so this is probably the best Healing weapon there is for the non-raiders and non-pvpers. And even if this weapon is not worth 4 nethers, big deal. You still don't have to raid to get Primal Nethers. The other materials are grindable ( If you are a miner ) The only problem with getting 1 primal element of each into primal might is that you need an alchemist, and the cooldown is 23 hours per transmute, but at least you don't need to pay for materials. And why wait for each transmute cooldown, when you can be getting the nethers.
Just to prove that this is NOT worthless to some people
Many people provide valuable input on whether or not this mace is worth the mats and effort. The hints and suggestions of other items that can be acquired in other ways is quite valuable. Still, the ultimate decision as to whether any particular item is worth the time and effort required to obtain it will come down to each individual player and their personal play hours and preferences.
At any rate, here's an update of the mats chart for anyone interested in crafting this. Thanks to the original artist for providing the starting point.
Actually making this is very very simple it all depends on your guild and its raiding quality or how many times you run heroics SO im going to tell you all how to get this so very easily within 1 day.
Farm Elemental Plateau for Motes, granted i know Mana is elsewhere but you can find it no doubt easily.
Move with guild in Heroics, get your Primals have your guild understand they are for you only. Why do this? Simple ill explain later.
Then now farm your bars...simple seems to appear lots within Shadowmoon Valley and Khorium well ur in shadowmoon you will have money.
Get many alchemists in guild or that you know and have all transmute at once thus you have all primals within one day ^_^
Now make it for either you or your guilds healer.
Guild should let one have these primals for this reason.
-The Blacksmith will give the Mace for free to a guild member that is a very good healer. Why for free...simple you want to get through kara and other such you have to all work together and share. As in someone gives free enchants or another does this and that and so on. Very simple to do just requires you to get off your ass and make it.
THough getting the plans will be the hardest part.
hmm.... thinking about buying this recipie
don't think it's really worth the primals, but probably nice for alts where they have tonnes of gold, but can't really be arsed with grinding rep.
The primal nethers aren't a problem, could probably get them in 1 day if doing guild runs.
As for primals..... 375 Alchemist + 375 Blacksmith on the same character ftw :)
I miss the old model for this :P... it was so stupid looking it was awesome. had it for about 2 weeks then they changed it :(.
As for this mace being useful, hell yeah. i've had it for what seems to be forever. exalted with violet eye, never seen a mace drop in kara. Some ppl are lucky and get a kara mace first run. Some are like me and have to grind mats for a second rate mace.
4 nethers is BS. 2 nethers was much more reasonable. I can craft this on Vek'nilash Horde side (royiouson). I haven't been able to find anyone even remotely interested in having this crafted, going as low as 500g for the 4 nethers (125 each). I'm a holy pally, and i'm using essence focuser, so after grinding all the freaking primals to get the mights i'll make one for myself, but for a pre-raiding guild which won't see raids for months, this will at least be good in pvp and heroics.
Even if Gladiator's Gavel from season 1 is attainable with honor points, it has no Mp5. great for BG but if you are raiding even the extra Mp5 from this mace is desirable.
best healing mace pre kara hands down.
Hopefully this mace will see a second coming now that Primal Nethers aren't BoP anymore. If anyone on Dethecus can make this ive got most of that mats, send mail to Dreadmight.
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