评论来自 1987

5 Engineers in the camp on a 6 minute respawn.

评论来自 20187

I got it after 3 hours of farming. Respawn is a little faster than 6 minutes though.

评论来自 22208

I farmed engineers for 5 hours, I still don't have it. A cunningly wrought plan by Blizz to stop us overpowered engineers getting past 360.

评论来自 Torabloodscalp

Do these schematics only drop if you have the required skill to makes them I wonder?

评论来自 23424

lol,the mats for this are extremely common,absolutely farmable,this must b the path from 360 to 375,but the schematic has yet to drop :S plus,u get aldor rep cause the engineers drop a lot of marks of sargeras and some fel armaments,kinda nice sideeffect if u ask me,also if u get lucky enough,u get some greenies

评论来自 Glucose

i just got 1 thing to say: /cheer for aldors! :P

评论来自 29366

Got it in about 5 hours of farming. Farmed solo for about 4.95 hours, then 2nd mob after I joined a group and boom. *shrug*

评论来自 Seyera

This schematic eluded me for three days - I made an account just to be able to post about it and the grind from hell that it was. Today I got a working kill counter addon (grrr @ malfunctioning Kill Log...) and racked up 201 kills before this dropped. Adding up that and what I estimate I killed on my previous farming sprees, I killed about 600 Engineers before striking gold. Today I'd decided to stop at 200 kills, but luckily for me one more Engineer spawned just as I was about to leave, and I thought what the heck, I'll kill it - and what do you know, it dropped. :D

My engineering skill is 325, so I can very much confirm that you do _not_ need the schematic's requisite skill in order to see it or in order for it to drop.

评论来自 25148

Got it on 35th kill, not as bad as i expected

评论来自 3ceph0los

Forge Camp: Anger is small with many other players visiting to finish 2 quests called Decieve Thy Enemy and You're Fired (1rst requiring them to kill Doomforge Attendants and Doomforge Engineers, 2nd requiring them to kill Doomcryer).

Join them to help them and yourself along. The faster they finish that quest and the followup, the faster that they will be out of the area. There are only 5 Engineers and many other Attendants, Anger Guards, and Legion Fel Cannons. Be careful of the cannons, they inflict a lot of damage in a short amount of time.

It took me 5.5 hours until the recipe was dropped.

评论来自 11290

been trying to obtain https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23808 for like weeks and then i looked that i could get this and the mats are way cheaper so i decided to go there and got it on my fifth kill :D

评论来自 36978

If you are going to farm for this or the Khorium scope, you should try to do it at a point where you can spend atleast 4 straight hours farming. If you come and go multiple times for 30 mintues each, you are playing the lucky card more then just farming it.

Plan a large portion of time to farm this, ideally when the area isn't full of other character's doing quests (I farmed for this starting at 1am server time, the area was dead).

For the Felsteel Boomstick, when you enter the camp, walk up the main stairs at the front and you will be standing at one of those tower things for the keys. Right behind the tower to the right is a bit of a hill. I was able to stand there and watch all the engineers respawn, and head over to kill them, without aggro'ing a single other mob.

I got mine after an hour. I was actually falling asleep, and as I clicked 'Log-off', and the pop-up appeared, another engineer respawned. I decided to kill him quickly, and he dropped it.

Good luck

评论来自 6571

Probably the worst thing about farming this schematic is that the engineers also drop motes of shadow, which from the corner of your eye might just look like a blue schematic drop...

Gets my hopes up every time =/

评论来自 Ishul

At what skill does this turn yellow/green?

评论来自 Zorox

Thihih...

Got it after killing 5 Engineers!!

Love beeing lucky.

评论来自 22578

Just got it after a week of farming. I killed 280 Engineers to get it! Bad Luck!

评论来自 47730

The first engineer I killed dropped it. I was clearing around the Legion Communicator, had no idea they dropped it. I was giggling with joy at a blue BOP eng schematic dropping, and never knew how rare it was till just now.

Then I farmed Sunfury bowmen for 6 hours for Schematic: Khorium Scope. I guess I got my comeuppance.

评论来自 Bess

OMG!!! I got it on the 1st kill as well.
Amazing!

评论来自 hitmehard

I spend around three days farming this one. I invited numerous Horde players to my party that were doing the quests around there so I didn't get in their way.

The first day I farmed for two hours and got nothing, second say around 1 hour and a half and again nothing.

Finally I picked up some guildies that were willing to come at the midst of night and we decided to slaughter everything in our way. Finally after 2 hours it dropped, I would not say it was worth the time tho, but you need it to level up if you don't have the materials to make Khorium Scopes!

Bottom line is:

Pain in the butt to grind, especially with people doing questing around the area and "stealing your mobs" to put it in a egocentric fashion.

评论来自 3942

I got this after 383 kills. Also dropped was a total of 267 Netherweave Cloth, 108 Marks of Sargeras and 8 Fel Armaments. The Doomforge Engineers are largely straightforward, a not too damaging flame spell at your feet is the most dangerous attack they perform, and it can be removed simply by moving. If you see anyone around the camp, offer your assistance and hope they aren't after the same recipe you are. All in all, not the worst thing I've ever farmed for, but still a pain due to the slow respawn of the engineers.

Also of note are the two rocks in the middle of the camp. When standing on one of these rocks, nearly all of the engineers will pass well within 30 yards of you. You will also not have to worry about aggroing any of the other mobs (at 70 at least). The 1-2 engineers that don't come within range of your perch should be reachable without aggroing other mobs, so all the engineers are easy pulls from here (even for a paladin).

评论来自 MajkStone

Got my schematic after about 20 minutes, guess I'm just lucky?

I killed all the other things as well to pass the time, and ended up getting several mana/health pots and the rep items. . . not too bad.

I also already had 375 engineering, just trying to get *all* recipes :)

评论来自 94650

I went to farm this with my hunter at level 69. I did the quest in the area, got a lot of rep items and exp and finally after 98 killed Engineers the Schematic dropped. It was quite an nice place to grind at imo.

评论来自 Akir

Just rolled up there, and got it on my second kill.
:)
So happy. This will make 370-375 A LOT easier.

评论来自 cessy

I got this on my first kill while doing a quest in the area.
ive never been a lucky person but..yay!

评论来自 114238

It would be nice if engineers spending hours farming these things would let those of us with a quest kill a few measly engineers.

Seriously, I spent 2 hours trying to get 4 engineers killed for my quest because this 70 hunter was out there killing all the engineers as they spawned. I can only assume this is what he was after.

So angry...

评论来自 125761

i grinded for about 1hr the other day trying to get this to drop and had 3 Fel Armaments drop so wasnt a complete waste

评论来自 isendims

Wasted a bunch of money on water, and used pots and food to make my farm for this as fast as i could, wasted about 10g, i was expecting a very long killing rampage b4 i would get it, i got it on my 4th kill

评论来自 Lobo2me

Got mine after 128 loots with an engineer character, which I expect isn't too far away from the true droprate. And even if I was unlucky with this, I kinda deserved it since I got https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24162 in 6 kills, https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33804 in 14 kills and https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24161 in 2 kills.

评论来自 inmanjm

http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=23800

The armory shows this has a drop rate of 1-2%. I expect that while some poor folks grinded (ground?) these 5 lonely mobs over and over again hundreds of times, just as many (like me) got it with a single clearing of the place.

I wouldn't walk in expecting it to take 5 kills or take 500 kills but somewhere in between. However, with such a small number of the engineers around at one time it very well may take a while.

As for the 0.3% drop rate, as has been noted elsewhere on wowhead, that's the percentage of total looters who have gotten this off the loots, whereas I suspect the armory shoes the true chance that it drops off a given kill, regardless of the looter's professions.

评论来自 172671

I was feeling pretty weary about farming this, especially after having read the comments that said it took hours to drop, and there's only a few guys to camp, etc.

So, with a heavy heart, I flew to the camp, started the killing...

...and got the schematic in three kills.

Now I don't have to rely on the Repair Bots and Flying Machines to level my engineering!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got it after 16 kills

评论来自 Allakhazam

After 385 kills it finally dropped.
Made lots of cash from other random drops tho.
The engineers are also questmobs, wich makes farming a pain during evenings.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Dropped on my 3rd kill!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Can anyone tell if you need to have 360 engineer for it to drop?

评论来自 Allakhazam

5th mob dropped it. No more leveling engineering by spending 100 gold on every point of level with those goggels.

Counting my blessings.

评论来自 Allakhazam

At this time i've farmed about 10 farming sessions. Anywhere between 1-5 hrs each session. Still no drop from the doomforge engineers on these. I've made alot of money out of it and half way into revered from all the marks and fels that dropped. I guess it's just not my luck to get this...

I'm making Khorium Scopes in the meantime to raise my engineering level, but id rather have this recipe to make things a bit easier to get to 375.

评论来自 Allakhazam

135 kills.

评论来自 Allakhazam

dropped off 85th kill, 10 min before server shutdown for weekly maintenance.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I must be very, very lucky.

I got this on my 5th kill. I also got the schematic for the Khorium Scope on the 7th kill, same drop rate. Sucks to be you guys lol.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Actually!
It drop from Doomforge Engineer today for me :D

评论来自 Allakhazam

122 mobs for this schematic.
Second choice for getting up to 375, although you can't sell the gun very well.

Edited, Feb 24th 2007 8:38pm by Cyraph

评论来自 Allakhazam

After 4 hours of intensive grinding and waiting for respawns... I got bored to hell and logged off (dinner timie). Then i logged back in after a half an hour or so and on the 2nd kill it just droped :> .

评论来自 Allakhazam

400 kills so far. Nothing :(

评论来自 Allakhazam

after approx 700 kills over two days, finally got it. Grinded all but one bubble of 69-70 getting this and khorium scope. Coach-Horde can make this on Terenas.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got it today from mobs 230 :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

i had to register just to post this... it drop for me just now... 1st mob :O

i could not believe it! :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

For me this schematic took about 10 hours of grinding time. I got it in the second hour of my third session. During the grinding, I did find alot of marks, fel armaments, netherweave cloth, greens etc. Also, I'm a rogue and pickpocketing the demons gave some extra cash and items.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i hate this schematic :E

评论来自 Allakhazam

Pretty annoying, but finally dropped.

评论来自 Allakhazam

any kind of confirmation that the schematic actually drops from em

ive been grinding for hours as the devoted engineer i am these blasted 5 mobs and still no drop

评论来自 Allakhazam

I actually got it when doing that quest to kill 4 of 'em. Too bad I'm not an engineer =[

评论来自 Allakhazam

Posting issues...

Edited, May 10th 2007 12:24pm by kazekan

评论来自 Allakhazam

It took me exactly 25 kills to get this schematic to drop. Just for the record. :)

Edited, Jul 15th 2007 10:47am by Cossa

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got it on my LAST kill. Isn't that how it always works out?

I might have invented the ( . Y . ) emote.

评论来自 Thottbot

These BoP recipes only drop if you *have* the tradeskill (and the required skilllevel in it, I think) from the mobs specified.

The drop chance is therefore higher than what Thottbot and other sites state, but still not awesome.

Fortunately, most tradeskill drops seem to be off of Aldor/Scryer rep grind mobs (or perhaps it's the reverse, and there's loads of recipes out there on un-ground mobs).

Sarf

评论来自 Thottbot

This is not a RANDOM_CLASS gun, it's an Engineering easy grinding gun.

Schematic found after 3 days of farming.

评论来自 Thottbot

I killed about 30 and it dropped :)

评论来自 Thottbot

Ok. I didn't really need this schematic to level to 375 but I wanted the schematic just to have it. And getting aldor rep at the same time. It took me 579 kills to get it. I about had a heart attack...

评论来自 Thottbot

Got it on 569th kill. During that time got a lot of marks and fel armaments. Which probably financed to skilling up since the mats for the boomstick run aroun 100g per 1. One advice. You will need a lot of adamantium tubes and felsteel stabilizres. Make them until they turn grey. Then you can make adamantium rifles. I made 10 and got 3 points from 361 to 364. At which point I started making the boomsticks.

评论来自 Thottbot

234 kills..4 days =)

评论来自 Thottbot

at least 100 kills - what do you people use to keep track of how many?

评论来自 Thottbot

I thought i must have got the place wrong after i looked it up to see where this dropped and then came here. Theres only ever 5 engineers who only drop this out at any 1 time, they have about a 5m spawn rate so basically your not farming your hovering above the camp waiting for 1 to spawn. To make things worse i had this human rogue around trying to do the same thing, so we were racing to kill these engineers first, still there now, dont think il ever get it, counted 87 kills (i think) so far and no joy. They need to either increase the drop rate or make more engineers out at any one time to drop it. This is just mad.

评论来自 Thottbot

About 2 posts above this there also 1 made by me aout 5 days ago, and im still farming it, then i get a blue schematiic drop and im like YES! Turns out its not what i want but fukin power amplification goggles WHICH I ALREADY HAVE, its just so annoying, 3 days and i get what i already have.

评论来自 Thottbot

Definitely worth grinding for. I'm a 70 hunter and I got it after about 70-80 kills. Definitely cheaper mats then the khorium scope and the other items you can level engineering with. Should be easy to go from 360 to 375 now. Also as an aldor it was a good drop rate for marks and fel arms while killing these guys.

评论来自 Thottbot

Have killed 300 plus and still no drop. To make matters worse also have not had any other green items drop from the enginers, so it's all or nothing.

On the positive side have probably made 30 gold doing this on and off in the last week. Yes I am trying to find a positive out of all this frustration.

评论来自 Thottbot

14 hours, no drop..over 3 days 9 fel armaments, 130+ marks of sargeras, 2 very nice blue JC recipes, tons of green items, but no Felsteel Boomstick...
The drop number is >10x less than the khorium scope....
Next day, still grinding, no boomstick schematic, got another blue JC recipe tho, and I'm drowning in netherweave cloth...
OK finally GOT IT! Never farmed this hard in my life, was starting to doubt it existed in this patch.
12 fel arms, over 200 mark of sargeras...

评论来自 Thottbot

I am still in the process of farming this schematic, Ive killed at least fifty engineers so far. There is one saving grace to this tedium.On my server an adamantite mine spawns in Forge Camp Anger about every ten minutes or so. If you are a miner as well as an engineer at least you can farm the mats for this gun for when the schematic finally drops!

评论来自 Thottbot

210 and nothing yet... How long did most of you ppl do ur farming sessions for? Ive been doing 4 hours and helping ppl with theyre quests there to improve my chances...

评论来自 Thottbot

4days above 1000kills any engi recipe for me:(...alot of nethercloth and marks but NO ENGI RECIPE.... why i wonder in 3years of WOW no epic drop for me on farming./cry

评论来自 Thottbot

Finally got it on Friday the 13th on my 325th kill. Sarcophilia, Draenor Hordeside.

评论来自 Thottbot

GOT IT! Probably 20 kills! I am lucky

评论来自 Thottbot

Building the Gnomish Toshley transporter and setting your hearth to Toshley's station is best to beat cooldown/respawn to jump back and forth to farm them between instances and quests.

After ~200 Kills it dropped, don't lose heart (I was starting to wonder if they removed it or something too), it is still there.

Given this is the only practical way to level your engineering skill above 360, I would like to think Blizzard will address this ridiculous step in the future and make this (or add a new recipe) a vendor/trainer/non-bop item.

评论来自 Thottbot

Uhhhmmm i was helping my bro on the Natasha's necklace quest and this thing dropped on 5th engineer kill didn't kno bout ti but luckily my bro is engineer so he is happy =D

评论来自 Thottbot

endless farming.. i see no end.. /wrist

评论来自 Thottbot

Dropped for me after about 20 kills. I thought Id kill a few while I waited for server reset. That was a good thought lol

评论来自 Thottbot

Why does Blizzard hate engineering so much? You'd think that since they're a bunch of pocket-protector programmers, they'd give some love to this profession. Or maybe they're just bitter.

Anyways, 101 kills for me and still no drop. I'm gonna put this pursuit on the back-burner for a few days. Maybe go waste time trying to get the Khorium Scope.

Edit: I finally got it on the 192nd kill. Hang in there, it will drop!

评论来自 Thottbot

finally, got it. a friggin' week of grinding. made around 1k gold from stuff sold in the AH and spent around 1,4k gold to push my engineering skill from 386 to 375 via mats bought in that AH.
six boomsticks, one skill level made through felsteel stabilizer, that's around 200 - 250 gold per boomstick.
i ca't even sell them for 50 each. dammit.
well, i can still disenchant (yeah, that's right, i'm enchanter/engineer) and sell the shards für 25 each. yay.
whatever. i hope that engineering flying mount gets me that 300 riding skill, i'm NOT going to grind 5k for it! i spent more then enough in my "trade"skills.

评论来自 Thottbot

Got it on my 24th kill, 45 minutes of grinding. Kind of sucks that there is only 4 of them wandering around, good thing I was the only one there. Spent more time killing the other anger gaurd & attendant mobs.

评论来自 Thottbot

yeah this recipe sucks to farm... considering theres only like 4 of the mobs that drop it... and on top of that there is a quest that involves killing them... bleh been here about 6 hours total today and 3 hours yesterday... still no drop (its bad enough i have to farm as a resto shammy)

评论来自 Thottbot

17 kills and it dropped. Best time to farm is sunday evening anyway.

评论来自 Thottbot

96 kills.

Was beginning to get worried!

评论来自 Thottbot

This is wack. Why hasnt blizz changed this drop rate or added more boe patterns? Farming for 3 days isnt my idea of fun. I dont expect to be handed an easy path to 375 ( like every other profession) but come on...

Like there isnt already enough things in the game to keep you playing forever... Takes 4 hours to do have fun for 45 minutes...

评论来自 Thottbot

If you're farming this to level your engineering, stop it. Go farm Sunfury Bowmen in Netherstorm for the Khorium Scope schematic. There are lots more of them than there are Doomforge Engineers in Blade's Edge.

评论来自 Thottbot

Just don't do what i did and decide to farm for this after you change to tank spec... /wrists

评论来自 Thottbot

this recipe is horrible to farm... only 5 spawns and the droprate is horrible... ive been here well over 40 hours combined time and still no drop :(

评论来自 Thottbot

i didnt find it too bad, killed about 10 engineer's and it dropped for me. Guess i was lucky.

评论来自 Thottbot

After I reached Eng 260, it dropped on the second kill.

评论来自 Thottbot

They still drop!

what do you need to get the drop ?

1) you must be engeneer
2) you must have skill 260 atleast !
3) its BOP

it is fairly easy to kill them but only 5 spawn at any given time, so be patient, you will spend alot of time here.

a good kill spot in the middle of the whole thing there is a small "hill" if you stand there you can see all spawns and can pull any mobs there, also here you are out of reach of fel cannon.

so after pull you can run here and kill mob.

http://www.nepa.dk/link/drop.jpeg

And yes you can kill all 5 at in one big go :) they dont hit that hard.

as you can see in my mobinfo box I got mine after 58 kills

评论来自 Thottbot

Here is all you need to know...

Dropped by Doomforge Engineers (level 67-68 Demon) at Forge Camp Anger. (74, 41)
Engineers hit for 180-240 on leather with 2 special abilities, 1 that blasts you into the air for 2 seconds and chemical fire, an AoE that lasts about 8 seconds even after they die... STEP OUT OF THE GREEN FIRE
Usually 5, to a maximum of 6 engineers are alive at any given time
The respawn for these engineers is 3 minutes
They DO drop Fel Armaments as well as lots of Marks of Sargeras and LOTS of Netherweave
The drop rate for the boomstick schematic is less than 1% for engineers with 360+ skill

1 engineer is located at the northern corner, 2 at the eastern, 1 at the western, and 1 in the middle

Unless you get very lucky, farming should take upwards of 2 hours. Good luck

评论来自 KeybladeMaster

For thoose of us playing TBC Classic, I can confirm that the recipe does indeed drop. It also has the same ridiculously low drop rate back in the day!

Must have killed about 100 of the engineers to get it to drop.

评论来自 Crieve

Can confirm 结构图：魔钢火枪 drops in TBC Classic Phase One. Just got it to drop for me after about 5 hours of grinding / helping randoms finish their quest chain in this area.

评论来自 Skult

结构图：魔钢火枪 is dropping in Phase 1 of Classic TBC. The drop rate is not that low, I dropped an average of 50 末日熔炉技师 in Forge Camp: Anger (Blade's Edge Mountains, 65.7, 40.0) and this NPC's respawn time is not 6 minutes but ~3 minutes. There are 5 of them.

To get this diagram you need to have at least 260 engineering and it's a great opportunity to level up your engineering from level 360 to 375. Many guides don't mention this item because they think the drop is too low. But I consider drop rate to be 3~5%. WoWHead considers 0.7% because it generalizes all characters even those that are not have engineer, but it only drops for those who have engineering.

Keep helping the players who come to do the quests, inviting them to the group and setting loot Free For All. Even if the other guy loot, the recipe will go just for you If he's not an engineer of course.

PS: This is the only place that drops the recipe: 设计图：怒钢头盔 too, only for those who have blacksmith 260. 怒火卫士.

Good luck!

评论来自 Caraudiowizards

Honestly I see NO reason to farm this unless you just feel the need to have every schematic. There are much easier better weapons to be obtained than this at same level required. And its not a pattern needed for leveling engineering at all. Save yourself the headache of this low drop rate low mob rate item that is not even good!

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