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评论来自
13708
Interesting item... warrior stats with a small paladin socket bonus. Much better than the piles of paladin plate you see everywhere in TBC...
评论来自
19097
This used to be a paladin item and was changed to warrior stats. They probably just missed the socket bonus.
评论来自
11294
Part of the Re-colored Lightforge Set
Hope Bearer Helm
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27408#M0z
Truth Bearer Shoulderguards
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24457
Light-Touched Breastplate
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24021
Azureplate Greaves
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24364
Studded Girdle of Virtue
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24458
Faith Bearer's Gauntlets
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25942
Uther's Ceremonial Warboots
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27420
评论来自
14087
Part of a Paladin armor set. Great set overall for Retribution/Holy. I guess a Warrior could use, if he was desperate.
评论来自
29409
As an arms specced warrior I took this when it dropped for our group last night. I was the only plate wearer in the group so it was use it or disenchant it. I plan to socket it with 3 gems that provide crit rating bonus.
Although it does look rather silly it does make me laugh :)
评论来自
38832
This is NOT part of the Tier0 (Valor) Look-a-like set, but is worth having since there is no other helm for it.
Head - Hope Bearer Helm - Auchenai Crypts (Shirrak the Dead Watcher)
(NOTE: There is no Tier0 Look-a-like Helm, but this is a substitute.)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27408
Shoulders - Pauldrons of Brute Force - The Underbog (The Black Stalker)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24463
Chest - Unscarred Breastplate - The Slave Pens (Quagmirran)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24363
Wrists - Nexus-Bracers of Vigor - Mana-Tombs (Nexus-Prince Shaffar)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25956
Hands - Ironblade Gauntlets - The Blood Furnace (The Maker)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24387
Waste - Tenacious Defender - Hellfire Ramparts (Omor the Unscarred)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24091
Legs - Greaves of the Iron Guardian - The Underbog (Swamplord Musel'ek)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24456
Feet - Ironsole Clompers - Hellfire Ramparts (Vazruden/Nazan)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24064
Also looks good with this set:
Shield - Shield of the Void - Mana-Tombs (Pandemonius)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28166
评论来自
Runesong415
Great set all together all around good tanking set and healing set
Hope Bearer Helm
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27408#M0z
lvl 65
Shirrak the dead watcher
(Auchenai Crypts)
Truth Bearer Shoulderguards
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24457
lvl 63
Swamplord Musel'ek
(The Underbog)
Light-Touched Breastplate
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24021
lvl 60
Watchkeeper Gargolmor
(Hellfire Ramparts)
Azureplate Greaves
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24364
lvl 62
Quagmirran
(Slave pens)
Studded Girdle of Virtue
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24458
lvl63
Ghaz'an
(The Underbog)
Faith Bearer's Gauntlets
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25942
lvl 64
Pandamonius
(Mana Tombs)
Uther's Ceremonial Warboots
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27420
lvl 66
Lieutenant Drake
(Old Hillsbrad Foothills)
-Runesong-Spinebreaker server-Blood-Knight-Horde
评论来自
Shorty
Of the recolored tier 0, this is the most warrior-friendly item- there are no paladin stats except on the socket bonus.
评论来自
27112
is this a pally or warrior helm cuz im confused i see warrior stats but pally socket bonus
评论来自
Allakhazam
I don't care about the socket bonus. As a warrior, I would still roll on this even if there is a paladin in the group.
评论来自
Allakhazam
That mana regen bonus may be nice, but if there's a warrior in my party I'll pass and let him have it. As a holy spec pally, I want intelligence bonus in my armor. This helmet is for ret-pally and warrior, not for me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://www.yourdoom.org/items/hopebearerhelm.jpg
I would of gave to a paladin but there were none in my group.
评论来自
Allakhazam
great ret pally helm i wouldnt mind it but if a warrior is in group i would gladdly roll against him=D
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG MANA REGEN PALLY HELM!
评论来自
Allakhazam
How could blizzard possibly gear the set bonus on this helm towards a paladin? I got this on my warrior and I love it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sigh. So tired of Warriors getting their panties in a knot because Paladin's are saying now what they've been told for ages "Oh! No no no! That doesn't have an Int or Mana bonus on it, that's not for you!".
You're right. Both Fury and Retribution Paladins have a right to roll on this. And I'm happy to see you wouldnt be flying into a rage over losing a roll on it. But let's be honest... you'd have no more right to be angry about losing a roll on this item to a Paladin than you would another Fury Warrior.
lern2playfair
Edited, May 18th 2007 11:46am by chione
评论来自
Allakhazam
Tanking/DPS helm. Warrior or Pally could use.
62 Pally tank myself.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I hate all you pallys for saying this is "pally only" gear
F*** you
im a 66 fury warrior and this thing stood out to me
the sockets are an added bonus and the sh*ttastic 2m/5s is BS
i would roll need on this if i had a group for it and if a pally won well i would be angry but i wouldnt be like screaming bloody murder
it is a GREAT fury helm and a GREAT ret pally helm thats all there is to say about it no tinking otherwise
and if u bring up the socket bonus i will cut ur head off and feed it to a core hound
btw my sig is wrong i havent been on the site in weeks and been lvling fast*
Edited, Apr 20th 2007 1:42am by alfafox
评论来自
Allakhazam
I may get this on my WARRIOR because it gives no intellect. but gives great stamina and agility and spirit, witch us warriors need
评论来自
Allakhazam
Agreed.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a Ret Paladin helm. If I saw a Warrior out roll a Paladin for this, he'd be blacklisted immediately.
EDIT: To below poster, it's a blue version on the Lightforge Helm. Obvious it was made with Paladins in mind :)
Links to the rest of the "Blue Lightforge Set", all but Bracers.
Truth Bearer Shoulderguards:
真相护肩
Breastplate:
光触胸甲
Bearer’s Gauntlets:
信仰使者护手
Girgle of Virtue:
纯洁钉皮束带
Greaves:
碧蓝板甲护胫
Ceremonial Warboots:
乌瑟尔的礼仪之靴
]Edited, Feb 4th 2007 2:04am by Maulgak
评论来自
Allakhazam
As an holy paladin, one of the two true pally sub-class (sorry but NO respect for Crétadin, you want to deepeeS. reroll hunter, rogue, warrior, etc) I prefer Helm of Infinite Visions ->
无尽幻像头盔
or Helm of Natural Purity ->
天然纯洁头盔
over this helm. I'll glady pass for any warrior that need it and be happy to shard it. No need of a blue version of Ronald McDonald helm. Socket you say? Yeah sure... Anyway Blizzard seem to had forgoten Paladins between lv20-58 but we got a sh*tload of gears after that. Some quests have 2 set of mail or 2 set of leather but no plate... Don't laugh at a warrior that wear Light-Touched Breastplate or pseudo-paladin gears, not cause they over-roll a pally, just they can't find anythign good right now. Beside I stand with Pasamis opinion. also to finish... if you want to argue, do it in a mature manner.
Edited, Apr 16th 2007 7:44am by Leilya
评论来自
Allakhazam
I give up, paladins get everything. They don't even have to be ret to get any warrior gear so wtf. Warrior haters I say. Even the Paladin DEFENSE set is better then the warriors. I mean damn INT with high defense alongside all warrior mods? Oh well the pres of blizz is a paladin what can we say. Nerf us more will ya? Oh and while you're at it add INT into the rest of the warrior gear.
I mean 2 Mana points in 5 seconds is HARDLY even freaking useful enough for a RET paladin. YOu're better off with something that has INT cause ret or not you always end up doing something holy or magical based dps. Man warriors are good end game but the blues before the raid items SUCK and you all know it.
Edited, Dec 1st 2007 12:16am by fistoflegend
Edited, Dec 1st 2007 12:22am by fistoflegend
评论来自
Allakhazam
2 mana per 5 isnt even worth talking about, +12 str from 3x 4str reds would maket this the best helm around for a warrior for quite some time. (or 3x +6 sta)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warriors, lets get one thing straight and I mean one thing.
YOU DON'T NEED THIS! So much better sh*t for you that would give you better socket bonuses than this. Yes I know it doesn't give int+ and the mana regen is pathetic. But this is the thing, Paladins before Warriors when it comes to needing on this. Warriors looks stupid with this too!
As a 64 Ret Pally I don't go needing on stuff for fury or arms warriors because I know what I need for my job. On the side I have healing/tanking gear for when I have to run lower level instances for friends or act as back up healer. So I will occassionally ask for items that should go to a healer, but that's if the priest, shaman, druid, etc. doesn't need them.
So guys take it into consideration what your class "does" before looking at the "stats" of an item. Fury warriors = dps Arm warriors = burst damage
Ret paladins = DPS Melee/Spell DPS, so I think Ret Paladins have a priority over this.
Edited, Dec 11th 2007 7:51am by Dorojin
评论来自
Thottbot
You can put any gem in the sockets you want... Lots of bonuses suck.
评论来自
Thottbot
Three sockets means it's highly customisable to any class. While the set bonus isn't good for a Warr, it has great normal stats, and they can just ignore the bonus. With its normal stats, the three sockets, and the socket bonus, it is a really good helm for ret pally, or any pally when PvPing.
评论来自
Thottbot
As a pally I wouldn't mind letting a warrior roll for the helm if warriors would let us pallies roll on plate with agility, strength, and stam and high dps 1h and 2h weps but until then stop complaining and let the pally have it. The 2 mana per 5 secs for the gem set bonus makes this helm slightly better for a pally, not by much but better is better. This all comes down to the problem of "just because I can use it more/better means I should have it". Now I don't think we should be rolling on gear that doesn't match our armor type (unless noone else needs it) but I'm saying most paladins can use warrior gear pretty well.
So either widen up the loot priority a bit or let the pally have the Hope Bearer Helm
评论来自
Thottbot
It suits both pala's and warriors, allthough I, as a dw fury warr would say we could use it better. The mana tick is just there to make it a tiny bit more viable for pala's than without..
Giving anybody pri on it is just stupid though.
They can both use it, let both roll for it.
评论来自
Thottbot
As far as rolling for warriors is concerned, it's not a big leap to just consider the mana as a dud-bonus, and an excuse to stick in whatever the hell gems we want. The only other exclusive pally feature seems to be its name.
评论来自
Thottbot
Funny how everywhere else on this site, any time a pally says he wants a piece of warrior plate, even socketable, it's "ZOMG ninja it's for warriors n00b". But when paladins have a helm as part of their unofficial "set" that has no intellect and is purely for melee DPS (OMG, paladins melee?), warriors want to claim it, too, in spite of the meager, but still class oriented, socket bonus.
Maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but...
ZOMG, Hunte...no, WARRIOR WEAPON!one!11!
You've got you own helm for your own recolored Valor. Leave our blue Mickey Dee's (Burger King hat now?) the hell alone, or let us have a crack at your plate too without your whining, because we can always socket it with +int gems. What's good for you is good for us, too.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is the first plate helm in the BC instances. Both classes are going to fight for it and rightly so. Deal with it. Not a paladin's fault that Blizzard didn't put a helm for the 'valor' set. However, also not the warrior's fault for wanting it for the same reason.
Both will go for it and slot it how they see fit.
评论来自
Thottbot
Well there are the Exorcist's helms from the vendors you need the Spirit Shards for they have helms for both classes and you only need 18 Spirit Shards :)
btw what would be better this
Hope Bearer Helm
or
Exorcist's Plate Helm
评论来自
Thottbot
The screen shot of the undead warrior wearing this makes baby Jesus cry. I also like the comment from the warrior saying he got this and vendored it immediately based on looks alone. No !@#$ing kidding, hint hint, it's not a %^&*ing warrior helm!
评论来自
Thottbot
Actually paladins
CAN TANK BETTER
at some bosses (even in heroic instances)
I'm a priest and i actually prefer to have a paladin as tank in some instances.
But this helm is for both paladins and warriors.
STFU with your prio and argue that when you're actually playing instead of whining on thott.
评论来自
Thottbot
9 out of 10 of pallies aggree this is a pally helm, i however do not, blizz may have made this helm spicificaly for paladins but step back and look at it, the only way this is a pally helm is due to the socket bonus, and what a fantastic one it is. i would not be surprised or upset if a warrior needed this in a run it is a very good helm, pally or no
评论来自
Thottbot
Sparky's helm blows compared to this, that has to be some kind of joke. Throw three VERY cheap Thick Golden Draenites in here for +18 defense, or 3 Very cheap Solid Azure Moonstone for 27 extra stamina (47 total) and screw the crapy socket bonus. Either way you have a nice tank helm once socketed. Better than anything else you can get until Unbreakable.
评论来自
Thottbot
Well, like I said the math is simple just name one better tank helm at this lvl and I would gladly go for that over this. But until I see that link warriors have no alternative but to go after this. This is the best tank helm until unbreakable period. It makes no sense not to go for it as a tank. Unfortunately that is the way Blizzard set it up.
评论来自
Thottbot
im an arms warrior and personally i think i could use the extra mana regen
评论来自
Thottbot
good for hunters
评论来自
Thottbot
jesus some paladins like to be the biggest pussies
评论来自
Thottbot
children...children... this helm is BUILT so either class can use it, it's not defined to warrior or paladin. just because it has a measley socket bonus that would benefit paladins doesn't mean it's strictly for paladins. the stats own for warriors or paladins, so just need if you need and pray you get it.
评论来自
Thottbot
this pally vs. warr priority thing is all blizz fault. they decided to make armor pieces that look like the old dungeon sets in the new bc instances but for some moronic reason they didnt make a helm for the warr one so they took the pally one and made it for both. omg blizz change these stats to something with intel str stam and spell dmg healing+ and make a warr helm that looks like valor!
that is all
评论来自
Thottbot
I have changed my talents from fury to protection
and so far i havent seen any good helmet and im wearing the underwolrd helm.It has a nice boost at stamina.Could any1 tell me when and with what shall i change it?
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a fine warrior helm, but with the socket bonus taken into consideration it was designed with paladins in mind. If this drops and there are no paladins (or the paladin present has it already or a better helmet), I'll push need. However, if I'm there with a paladin who needs it, I'll gladly pass.
Good helm overall, nice stats and sockets.
评论来自
Thottbot
Im going to do crypts a few times when i lvl...(64warrior)..i actually wouldnt mind this helm. Add some gems to it and its pretty nice,and if a pally is in my groupp...im not going to let him have it. Put it this way, if the Equip bonus was lets say...Additional 2 Rage every 5 seconds er something like that,do u think the pally would still roll?Yes.And for all you pallys who complain about warriors taking this, toughen up,you pallys get gear from nearly every instance and about every quest as to warriors, we dont get %^&*.
评论来自
Thottbot
btw...does 2mana every 5seconds really help?After all it really is the only thing on this helm that would make it pally.
评论来自
Thottbot
Its about the same as ur "Unbridled Wrath" or so,mething which is 1 rage every metc etc...U think 2 rage is impoortant we think 2 mana is important
评论来自
Thottbot
I love how when a helm geared more towards paladins that a warrior would like drops warriors are all well its bonus's are nice o i should be able to roll on it too, BUT heaven forbid a prot paladin roll on any plate without int cuz thats for warriors
Seriously people I am all for a warrior rolling on this with me but that same warrior shouldnt start crying when I roll on something without any int
评论来自
Thottbot
Itz a great helm for warriors and paladins sockets are generally a customization of armour and weapons so it swings either way. i do see more paladins choosing this then warriors because of the style. looks like 2 of the paladin helm sets
Lightforge and Soulforge dungeon set 1 and 2
评论来自
Thottbot
2 rage is way better then 2 mana, 2/100 is 2%, but 2/5000 is like 0005%. this is hella good for warriors, just bcause it has 2mp5 socketbonus it doesnt give pallys the right to roll
评论来自
Thottbot
fell for me today, me and ret pally rolled. he got 55 and I rolled an 88 on my warrior. he was cool about me winning it as would I had if he won it. nice helm for either class.
评论来自
Thottbot
Great helmet for both a warrior and paladin. Might not be the best option for a holy paladin. Also this helmet is part of the two sets that are redesigned from Azeroth (Warrior and Paladin dungeon 1 look)you can get in Outland. Sadly there are only one helm and it looks like the paladin set edition, but has stats good for both a warrior and paladin.
It droped for me on the second Crypt run for my protection paladin. I was the only plate wearer in the group so none cared about rolling for it than me. This was a realy great upgrade since i had a green helm from a quest in Zangramarsh a loong time. Plate head items of good quality seems to be rare, so if this drop and its an upgrade for you roll need on it.
Rememeber that there are many socket bonuses that not worth gemming up for. Get the gems that will do the best for your characters build and stack them up. Dont care so much for the socket bonus on this item.
Since i mostly soon will change this out again with a better item i bought 3x green gems with +9 stamina, rasing it to a total of 27, giving it a total of 46 stamina added. I could have got 9 more using the +12 edition but concidered it a waste of gold.
Remember there are many nice combinations out there from gems.
Overall a great item that will last loong for you.
Good luck obtaining one.
评论来自
Thottbot
ure all nerds lol...exept for the smart ones..its ment for both pally and wars so shut all of u..im a warrior and basically every pally i know has alot of non int gear
评论来自
Thottbot
My orc war will look really stupid in this thing, but hey, the stats are pretty good so looks like I'm gonna have to run Crypts a few more times.
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