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评论来自
sueyed
Anyone have any idea where this is from?
评论来自
5027
This piece is part of the recolored paladin Tier 2 Judgement set in the game. The entire set looks the same, except it has a purple/grey color scheme instead of gold/black.
The entire set of pieces are--
Helm -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27790
)
Shoulder -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27539
)
Chest -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27897
)
Belt -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27548
)
Legs -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27748
)
Boots -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28221
)
Bracers -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27489
)
Gloves -- (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27457
)
评论来自
24370
Actually, the plates with most +healing and +manareg are these, if socketed correctly:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29342
With Teardrop Living Ruby (+18 heal), Luminous Noble Topaz (+9 Heal and 4 Int) and Royal Nightseye (+9 Heal and 2 MP5s) you get to +96 Heal, 11 MP5s and 27 Int. From a purely Healing point of view, these are the best Pants a Paladin can get. Downside is: No stam, low armor, no spellcrit.
Attainable by Quest in Mana Tombs.
评论来自
26117
Actually, you are forgetting spell crit chance.
The Starcaller's Plated Legguards are better healing pants than Consortium Plated Legguards because crit chance will cause more heals to be free and heal more.
That being said, I think these pants are still the best non tier set healing pants in the game.
评论来自
24370
Quoting from my own post:
1. "The plate legs with most +healing and +manareg"
2. "Downside:no stam, low armor, no spellcrit"
But that is an ongoing argument: I have - due to Int, talents and other gear - about 30% crit on Holy Light, 25% on flash of light (numbers without using divine f(l)avor, about 2000 heal spells recorded on sw stats. also done this at lvl 60, so now my critchance will be way lower, haven't had the time to do a new series for testing, especially since i am now prot specced and don't have adequate heal equip besides those consortium legplates).
in my opinion, the added manareg and +heal do more for me than the 0.77% / 1.13% (starcallers / cassock, at level 70) added spellcrit. But this is because I have always prefered +heal/+mp5s over +spellcrit, thats just the way I play my char. Going the "crit-heal-adin" way, the cassock is clearly superior, no doubt. I just have the problem with spellcrit, that in any environment one is not the only healing char, crit heals will take someone into overheal, either yourself (because you healed more than intended, but that is not a problem because its free anyways) or somebody else who thinks about the normal amount of healing and tries to top of the target (which is bad, because they spend the mana unnecessarily).
in that aspect, i prefer to heal with a calculateable (does this word even exist? sorry, not native english speaker) amount and use mp5s to refresh/keep up my mana pool over crithealing and possibly wasting other healers mana. If the crit heal is necessary, it will not come from your crit-equip, but from divine f(l)avor. we all know Murphy and his darned theories.
all that said, I do agree with you, I shouldn't have written the sentence "from a purely healing point of view...". Better would have been to put it like "from my point of view..."
best is for everyone to test it for their playstyle, just wanted to get the info put down here, as a questreward from a lvl 62-64 quest is usually not taken seriously as an alternative to 70/heroic stuff.
评论来自
doombringer
It's nice to see +healing and +spellcrit on an item. Right now I'm trying to find the happy medium between loads of +heal and +spellcrit to make the best healadin possible. The key is to not sacrifice too much of one stat for the other, and ignore neither. Crit healing is, as others have said, an important part of healing as a paladin
评论来自
34530
Im going for the whole set just for fun tho my legs have much better healing(
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30299
)
got helmet and chest now
评论来自
39530
Alright everyone is complaining about what it better: +healing, Mp5, Spell Crit. I've crushed some numbers and this is what i've gotten. I tested with Applying scrolls and checking my stats (I may be off).
1 Spell Crit Rating = .045% Spell Crit
1 Intellect = .0136% Spell Crit
1 Intellect = 16.2 mana
With these Calculations I'll give you the stats:
*STARCALLER* *CASSOCK* *CONSORTIUM*
-30 HP <Compared to Cassock> -300 HP
- 259.2 MP <Compared to Cassock> -178.2 MP
-.9834% Crit <Compared to Cassock> -1.2746% Crit
<Compared to Starcaller> -20 Heal - 37 Heal
-2 Mp5 -9 Mp5 <Compared to Consortium>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will let you do the choices but there are you're numbers. All calculations are comparisons were taken with no Gems/Spell threads attached because obviously different players have different choices in gems. My say in this is while Mp5 in bulk is nice but between these legs 9 Mp5 is nothing. If everything is plain and simple (say you're out of money) and you don't have any gems then definitely the Cassock is the best choice. I Myself would not choose Star caller. I also have the Consortium Plated Legplates as a 70 Holy Paladin. I have them gemmed up and Healing Thread that are cheap alternatives, they increase the legs with: +71 Healing, +26 Stamina, and +3 Int. These are just cheap 3-5g gems in exception of the thread. I end up with only -40 HP, -130 MP, +54 Healing and + 9 Mp5. I think these are a very good alternative until you get into Heroic/Kara. Once i get the Cassock I will definitely upgrade my leg plates as I believe the Cassock is better than Consortium, unless you drop 1-2 Hundred gold in gems. And about the arguing about stats, I'm going for Int/Spell Crit over Mp5. While also watching my +Healing. so #1 Concern is: Int/Spell Crit #2 +Healing #3 Mp5/Spirit. An additional stat: 1 Spirit = .837 Mp5 and only helps it when you are Not casting. Only Mp5 I'm concerned about is when i am casting seeing that i usually spam FoL so much. Make your decision and reply why and if anyone sees an error in my calculations please post and make it right and your math behind it.
评论来自
42591
i like it how you guys digest every little detail and even go through the research just to help mindless people like me understanding with no or little effort at all. ty. i'd still pick the cassock of loyal just because it looks cool and matches the mask of penace. that's my justified reason.
评论来自
24370
When and If the 2.1.0 patch goes live as it is planned now (from PTR patch notes), I guess we all have to reevaluate Spellcrit vs. MP5s. with just 50% mana regained on crit, the ratio between spellcrit and MP5s will change dramatically.
So while Spellcrits still do wonders about our HP/MP ratio, it will not as much influence the "longevity" of our mana anymore.
any body else slightly p****d off about those changes?
评论来自
53225
Just a quick update, the nerf to illumination wasn't from 100% -> 50%, but to 60%. Still not as uber as 100% was, but something to consider IMHO.
评论来自
26067
Droprate on these is retarded. I've ran heroic UB 34 times now and it still hasn't dropped. Seen at least 3 of every other drop. On the bright side, I did buy 3 really nice items with the heroic badges.
评论来自
kasha
What weapon is she using in the picture?
评论来自
Retrouve
Looks like Despair
评论来自
Allakhazam
Complete Details of the Re-skinned 'Purple Judgement' pseudo-set:
Helm:
Mask of Pennance
- Mekgineer Steamrigger, Steamvaults
Breastplate:
Breastplate of Many Graces
- Grandmaster Vorpil, Shadow Labyrinth
Shoulders:
Justice Bearer's Pauldrons
- Omor the Unscarred,
Heroic
Hellfire Ramparts
Hands:
Life Bearer's Gauntlets
- Vazruden, third boss
Heroic
Hellfire Ramparts
Wrists:
Virtue Bearer's Vambraces
- Broggok,
Heroic
Blood Furnace
Belt:
Girdle of Many Blessings
- Rokmar the Crackler,
Heroic
Slave Pens
Legs:
Cassock of the Loyal
- Hungarfen,
Heroic
Underbog
Boots:
Boots of the Watchful Heart
- Third Boss,
Heroic
Old Hillsbrad (caverns of time)
Image of complete set:
http://flame.tiefighter.org/~pveale/avatars/palajudge2.gif
评论来自
Allakhazam
Heroic Underbog first boss Hungarfen drops this and the badge of honor
评论来自
Thottbot
Drop by The Underbog (Heroic) First boss
评论来自
Thottbot
Hungarfen, Underbog on Heroic mode
评论来自
Thottbot
I love this set. Does anyone know what the other pieces are and where they drop? I know the helm drops from 2nd boss (mechanical) in Steamvaults
评论来自
Thottbot
The Belt drops from 2nd boss in Slave Pens heroic
评论来自
Thottbot
Someone posted the drop locations for all items in this "set" in this thread.
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=117471770&sid;=1&pageNo;=2
评论来自
Thottbot
Complete Details of the Re-skinned 'Purple Judgement' pseudo-set:
Helm:
Mask of Pennance
-
Steamvaults
Dropped by
Mekgineer Steamrigger
Breastplate:
Breastplate of Many Graces
-
Shadow Labyrinth
Dropped by
Grandmaster Vorpil
Shoulders:
Justice Bearer's Pauldrons
-
Heroic:Hellfire Ramparts
Dropped by
Omor the Unscarred
(1st Boss)
Hands:
Life Bearer's Gauntlets
-
Heroic:Hellfire Ramparts
Cropped by
Vazruden
(final boss)
Wrists:
Virtue Bearer's Vambraces
-
Heroic:Blood Furnace
Dropped by
Broggok
Belt:
Girdle of Many Blessings
-
Heroic:Slave Pens
Dropped by
Rokmar the Crackler
(2nd Boss)
Legs:
Cassock of the Loyal
-
Heroic:Underbog
Dropped by
Hungarfen
Boots:
Boots of the Watchful Heart
-
Heroic:Old Hillsbrad
(Durnholde Keep)
Dropped by the Third Boss
http://flame.tiefighter.org/~pveale/avatars/palajudge2.gif
评论来自
Thottbot
got the boss order a bit wrong.
The belt drops off the second boss in OH (the 3rd boss is epoc hunter.. the belt drops off the guy thrall gets his horse from)
Omor is not the 1st boss in ramps either.. he's is the second or third boss (since you can do either him or the dragon first)
评论来自
Thottbot
Name Sta Int Regen Healing
Mask Of Pennance 27 30 10/5 66
Breastplate Of Many Graces 40 28 11/5 62
Justice Bearer´s Pauldrons 25 25 7/5 55
Life Bearer´s Gauntlets 23 25 - 55
Virtue Bearer´s Vambraces - 16 6/5 35
Girdle Of Many Blessings 24 22 - 46
Cassock Of The Loyal 30 34 - 68
Boots Of The Watchful Heart 23 26 7/5 55
In Total 192 206 41/5 442
Life Bearer´s Gauntlets has 18 spellcrit rating instead of regen.
Virtue Bearer´s Vambraces has 15 spellcrit rating instead of Stamina.
Girdle Of Many Blessings has 21 spellcrit rating instead of regen.
Cassock Of The Loyal has 25 spellcrit rating instead of regen.
Total spellcrit rating: 79
评论来自
Thottbot
I know it wont drop for me either..... starting to piss me off
评论来自
Thottbot
Got it very first heroic underbog run. Don't hate me!
评论来自
Thottbot
Can't make up my mind between this Cassock of the loyal or Starcaller's Plated Legguards (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30299/
唤星者板甲护腿 )..
What do you guys think is best?
评论来自
Thottbot
I think the starcaller's legs are better, but hey.... we have to have something for those of you with purple dress fetishes.
评论来自
Thottbot
these legggings are way better for holy paladins more armor and more int its all around better
评论来自
Thottbot
I've been trying to get this forever, I know a lot of people say the other 2 are better, but I think this one is the best personally. I got the consortium plated leg guards, but no stam hurts. The cassock is especially nice if you're trying to do arena and you don't have the arena pts for the pants, 30 stam + golden spellthread (60something healing 20 stam) thats 50 stamina. Sure the other ones have like 20 more healing, but i'd much rather have the extra stam/intel....only problem is i've ran this about 20x and no drop =/. oh well. i guess i'll keep trying til the ones from the chess event drop.
评论来自
Thottbot
I've Ran heroic Underbog 40+ times and these pants still haven't dropped. I think the drop rate is a lot lower than 10%.The mail Shammy belt or the mail gloves drop most of the time.
评论来自
Thottbot
Mine dropped on what was basically my final attempt to get it. I convinced my guildies to make one final run (since nobody needed any loot from UB anymore, besides me) and, thank God, it dropped.
The upside is, if you have a good group of friends, you can pull this off. The trash pulls up to Hungarfen are pretty easy (save the guards at his platform) and Hungarfen himself is rather trivial, so long as you avoid the mushrooms. I just cast max rank Holy Light, strafe a bit, Holy Light, strafe, etc. Nobody in the group seems to ever get hit and the tank only takes minimal damage.
So yeah, if nobody needs loot from the place and you can gather some friends that don't mind running it JUST for the healy skirt... you're in luck. Otherwise, I think it took upwards of 10 or so runs to get it to drop. Best of luck!
评论来自
Thottbot
just curious, but is there a cape that goes with this set, at least to complete the look?
评论来自
Thottbot
I don't know if this has been posted before but..
I added up the whole set of 8 items, and here are the raw stats for the entire "set" (no enchants or anything)
TOTAL:
+ 6641 Armor
+ 192 Stamina
+ 206 Intellect
+ 442 Healing
+ 41 Mana/five seconds
+ 79 Spell critical strike rating (3.6%)
***If I made any mathematical mistakes please reply to this***
评论来自
Thottbot
Took me a month of going daily to get it.
I agree, take your friends and keep taking down first boss daily till you get your Cassock.
评论来自
Thottbot
This Purple Judgement set no doubt rocks and also looks awesome. Unfortunately since the S1 arena gear moved in to the honor section, looking at that gear in comparison, it seems to be overall better. More spellcrit, stamina, and not to mention resilience. Stamina and resil may not be as necessary for pve, but its a nice bonus. In terms of healing and intellect which is what we really want as Holy Pallies the two are about equal, more or less per item.
Im just mentioning this cuz i want this sweet Judgement copy set, but find that its more worthwhile to get the s1 arena with honor, and you dont have to go through the hassle of running the same dungeon a thousand times to get the item...But i guess the same can be said for the BG. :(
PJ rocks tho so i still desire it so much.
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