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These drop off Nexus-Prince Shaffar in heroic mode.
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How do you two feel about a combat PvE rogue skipping T4, using four peice Wastewalker (All but Gloves) ? I am working for that, the idea behind my rogue being 'Proc'..Mongoose, Haste procs, Dragonspine et cet...the additional 160 AP might be a good thing.
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59139
these are better than assassination leggings a must for rogues and druids
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11253
Wastewalker Tunic - Keli'dan the Breaker (Heroic Blood Furnace)
Wastewalker Gloves - Warchief Kargath Bloodfist (The Shattered Halls)
Wastewalker Helm - Epoch Hunter (Heroic Old Hillsbrad Foothills)
Wastewalker Leggings - Nexus Prince Shaffar (Heroic Mana-Tombs)
Wastewalker Shoulderpads - Avatar of the Martyred (Heroic Auchenai Crypts)
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Allakhazam
"Noob rogue. feral druids take lots of dodge/crit/ap from agi, and these are imba for tanking, so keep YOUR hands off!"
well you clearly havent got a clue im sorry to say. for god sake none of the items have strengh on them witch is your primary attribute as a feral druid. and the idea that a druid needs this set for tanking is just ridiculus, there are @#$%loads of items with far better stats on them for feral tanking, it is ofc true that Agility will bootst your crit/dodge/ap ..but guess what, it does the same for rogues and since druids still cant out dps a rogue and since they never are gonna be primary tanks, due to the fact that they cant sunder armor, the agillity on this set is far better spendt on a rogue.
now blow the fur out of your eyes and go read up on your class mechanics.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Now children,
It's a leather item and it's not class specific. Both druids and rogues, good luck :)
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Allakhazam
As an enhancement shaman I'm quite happy with 4/5 wastewalker :)
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Allakhazam
I just had to get in on this debate a little. <-----feral druid. Oh yes wastewalker is PHATTY feral druid gear PHATTY! BUT for any druid who thinks this is tanking gear let me just say this OMFG WHAT? THIS sucks for tanking gear this is staight dps/pvp feral gear. mmmm yummmy AP...true i'd rather see +str than AP but thats what gem slots are for and the moonglade set IS NOT i repeat IS NOT a set I would dps in. It's better suited for a feral/resto spec'd PvP druid. (in my opinion) And please rogues quit your wimpering it gets annoying why would you pick this set over assassination anyways? Besides not every druid is going to roll on it only the feral ones. LRN2PARTY and Quit trying to keep the druid powa down
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Allakhazam
if you care to look at the set site on the WoW-europe set you'd find this a DRUID, i repeat a DRUID set not a ROGUE !
ok now you can stfu
评论来自
Allakhazam
All I know is this set is good for both...but I agree druids have 3 sets for everything, why not a seperate dungeon set for caster/feral druids. This set in my opinion is for feral druids because look at the bonuses that work for druids as oppose to the assasin set that only has set bonuses that work for rogues...not to mention that set looks a HELLUVA lot like the Moonglade set..(i.e. the helmet, the shoulders etc.) So yeah it is very AP specific...but look at all the red sockets as well...just screams +STR here and the set bonuses work better for druids...so by design I would say this is the Feral Druids dungeon set, but I wouldn't get mad if a rogue rolled on it as well, i mean hell I'd roll on assasination gear if the bonuses weren't purely for rogues.
评论来自
Allakhazam
only druids ^^ rogues got their own set, first feral set in history bro ^^
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Allakhazam
well..
i like that comment about rogues out dpsing druids..
I am a DPS/ TANK (FERAL DRUID) for my guild who is has almost cleared karahzan..
I out dps almost the entire raid in bear form while tanking, and out dps everyone by a massive margin when i goto cat form.. In 10 mans i do roughly 40% of the raids damage.. Leaving the rogues at about 20%.
Just thought it was funny that rogues still think they out dps us.. I lawl
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Allakhazam
Realy nice pants for rogues and maybe druids that tanks :)
And i was first :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
"this is a quote from a poster on wowhead, and the guy speaks the truth. this set is clearly made for combat rogues where as the assassination is made for Sub and ass rogues. in shot druids need to keep thier filthy paws off it, if a rogue needs it."
Noob rogue. feral druids take lots of dodge/crit/ap from agi, and these are imba for tanking, so keep YOUR hands off!
Edited, Feb 6th 2007 12:04pm by Dingolicious
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ya, so I made an account on here, I didn't feel the need to but I signed up and all that just to post on this particular thingy. And only to say that my main char is a combat sword rogue atm, hopin to go fist weapons...cuz lets face it...they're manly. Anyway...I got the gloves for this set last night, rolled against a druid, he got 17 I got 27 so I'm wearing them now. But in all honesty, I don't even care about this set, I'm not even gonna socket it, let the druids have it, it's fine for them, I only rolled cuz I wanted to win against a druid cuz most feral druids are cry baby B&%$#@s all waa waa it's better for druids cuz we need agi to tank bla bla bla, and you know what, they can have this set, Allakhazam doesn't even say where some of these set peices drops, hell the BP is like a less then 1% chance to drop in some heroic instance so you droods can just fly right at'r. To tell you the truth I've never had a druid roll against me on any shadow craft or anything else even before the expansion, I just thought it was kinda funny, cuz this set is probably better for them anyway. The other sets got rogue specific set bonus's, I dont see many feral druids using cheap shot.. And in closing...in all honesty, I don't know why you druids even roll on gear...if you wanted to be good...you woulda rolled a different char.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I agree with Zotty and the quote he posted.
Sure a druid could use it... But notice the whole set has no strength on it, but it does have attack power? Us rogues don't get 2+ attack power(some feral druids get 2.5 or something) per strength... We get one. Therefor attack power in my eyes is rogue priority, but leather with strength, though can be used by both, is best for a druid.
I admit I was kind of confused out of the three sets there was no feral druid set. I am glad there are two options for a rogue though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Good for both leather-boys, sockets make the set customizable to ones desire, as a rogue or druid.
The 2 piece set bonus is awesome for all rogues, especially combat (2.22% hit), and also benefits druids. If a druid wants to roll I think its fair game (this coming from a rogue).
评论来自
Allakhazam
when the hell will some of you just shut up?
dont go "OMGLOLKEKFFSONLYFORROGUES/OMGLOLKEKFFSONLYFORDRUIDS" because things like this are equally good for both %^&*ing classes... jebus
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm amazed that after 2-2.5 years this class talk still hasn't stopped.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rofl When you guys get these your guilds will dictate who gets them :)
Thanks for the posts but this is a rogue set. The feral druid set has just as much stuff except with Int and Spi get over yourselves and yes we have feral druids that tank in the guild.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you have ever played a druid, especially one in pvp, you'd know that the stat's that are important are Agility/Stam/Str(AP). They made moonglade and it's a complete waste of an item slot for any feral druid, it lacks agility and the AP from the STR is only on par with Wastewalker Armor. This makes Wastewalker the superior Feral set atm and rogues have thier class specific set that for most cases is better than wastewalker. If a rogue wants it, they better roll need on it because I damn sure will too. Even for tanking this set is pretty high quality.
Since we do not have block or parry, we require high amounts of agility to tank, As a bear i have 35% dodge, self buffed with around 420agil. I have around 1500-1600AP in bear, and a 31% crit chance. I produce insane amounts of threat, i am always the highest overall DPS and that makes me as a main tank very valuable. I only have 13.5kHP(MotW+Prayer of Fort) and just over 10k armor. As I realize i need a higher armor, around 15k should work, for heroic difficulties, agil is still my primary stat followed by stam. The reasoning for this is simple, when feral druids crit we get bonus rage, more rage means we produce more aggro which means there is less of a chance that the "DPS" will pull off me. This allows my group to go full out dps and never worry about me as the tank losing aggro. The rage generation and dps is why bear tanks are so good at 5 man content right now. Hitting hard is good, critting often is best as it supports our talents even better.
This has proven to be an invaluable part of A)Completeting boss fights easily and with high sucess(95%+, first time) and B)Going through instances fast which means more runs, more drops, happier groups.
All of this excluding Imp. LotP, which in a group with a priest, i heal myself for around 500, every 6 seconds due to high crit %.
I do agree that Armor, especially vs heroic BOSSES, is important and that's when i'd use items like Verdent Gloves. But for trash, i can dps a target to 40-50%, then move on and it won't drop aggro vs me allowing two dps to kill it while i go for another target and kite the first one(slowed for the situation).
Anyway, this long rant was basically to shut up the rogues who think that AP is all druids care about after Stam/Armor. Agility is key, I'd rather have 35% dodge and 12k armor(around 55% damage reduced) than having 20k armor(i hear 70%) and only 25% dodge. Taking less damage from more hits means your healers constantly have to keep you up at full and any crit bones you. I dodge enough, consistantly, as a tank that if i drop low from a crit i'm easily healed because of the extra time a dodge allows for a heal. Either way, Anyone that's not a druid should not say if something is or is not druid gear and druids that do not realize the quality of Wastewalker Armor as feral need to go back to moonkin so we can properly identify the moronic druids out there
(If a druid isn't tanking or healing, they are taking a spot that a better dps class should be filling).
评论来自
Allakhazam
To all complaining about druids vs rogues rolling on this set: As every piece has 2 or 3 sockets this set is the most customizable leather set out there.
--Clearly designed for a sub rogue(tho any rogue could make this viable) or a feral druid. The set bonuses are specific for melee, but not class specific(hit rating and AP bonus).
--This set has no str, but has 11 sockets and a meta socket. This means feral druids can socket with as much str/stam as they wish(or more agi).
Depending on how it is socketed this could be the best agi set ever. If socketed with Delicate Living Ruby(+8 agi) for all red sockets(4, total of 32 agi), Glinting Noble Topaz(+4 hit, +4 agi) for all yellow sockets(4, total of 16 hit, 16 agi), and Shifting Nightseye(+4 agi, +6 stam) for all blue sockets(3, total of 12 agi, 18 stam) and whatever you like for the meta(Swift Skyfire - 24 AP and minor run increase for rogues, Powerful Earthstorm - +18 sta, +5% Chance to resist stun for feral druids, for instance), this set would give 180 agi(207 for sub rogues, 15% bonus to agi). Or you could ignore the socket color and just socket with 11 Delicate Living Rubys(+88 agi), giving 204 agi(235 agi for sub rogues).
--Obviously can be socketed for sta(or str) as well(+88 str or +132 sta), add the 139 sta that the set already provides for a total of 271 sta. In conclusion - This set is completely viable for any rogue(esp sub) or feral druid spec. So no more complaining about who rolls for this, either can use this equally well.
评论来自
Allakhazam
honelsty, as a rogue, if the druid rolls and wins fair, so be it. I can always run again and get it later
评论来自
Allakhazam
"This is clearly better for a Rogue than a Feral Druid, the stats speak for themselves.
Rogues get a lot less attack power from Strengh as we Druids do, meaning raw AP is a lot more important for them. A well-equipped 70 feral druid will roughly have 2500ap, whereas a rogue will have a hard time hitting 2000ap.
The usual attractive stats for a Feral are high strenght, high armor or high stamina. This set has none, and only carries high Agility and AP.
Of course a Feral druid would benefit from this set greatly, but leave it to the Rogue if he wants it."
this is a quote from a poster on wowhead, and the guy speaks the truth. this set is clearly made for combat rogues where as the assassination is made for Sub and ass rogues. in shot druids need to keep thier filthy paws off it, if a rogue needs it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Frankly, I'd rather a rogue get these than some other druid who is only feral because feral is currently OP. When we get nerfed, they'll go be moonkins and trees again. And I'd be moping that the gear was wasted.
But everyone needs to chill in general. There are three leather sets, one clearly druid, one clearly rogue, and one for either. Same with every other armor material for dungeon 3 sets. 3 plate, 3 mail, 3 leather, 4 cloth. Class specific + a set for anyone.
If you get that upset that someone else's class wants gear too, then stop pugging and run with friends.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wut? Priests STILL get to roll on dreadmist when there's a warlock? WTF!
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Allakhazam
i made an account just to say this:
wtf is the matter with bliz this should be the rogue set instead most people say that druid isnt best at anything but their dungeon set 3 is most certainly better than rogue's. simply pathetic this one gives 11 more stam, has 3 more red sockets, 1 more yellow socket and 1 more blue socket. druids arent supposed to be better rogues than the rogues them selves but this set proves they are too strong in all things they can do. with 5 more sockets u can put around +35 more stam into this set? rrgh i was ready to kill myself when i saw this @#$%ing set nrgh druids shouldnt be able to stealth at all and also dire bear and moonkin forms should be taken from em'. theres nothing on eart, azeroth and outlands that pisses me off more than druids and this fukcing set! its way better than the rogue's dungeon 3
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Allakhazam
they droped last night at around 6:30 2/13/06 in Black Morass off of the boss Aeonus
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Allakhazam
This is the druid/rogue set. Every class basically has 2 different dungeon3 sets to choose from. The set made specifically for them, and one for anyone who wears that type of armor (i.e. assassination for rogues, moonglade for druids, wastewalker for either/or). This is the secondary set for rogues and druids. So feral druids can/should roll on this set (as well as rogues) but NOT the assassination set, as it has VERY rogue-specific set bonuses. To anyone with atlas loot, just view and compare all d3 sets. There's always one class-specific set, and neutral one.
Edited, May 22nd 2007 7:54am by teamuffin
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Thottbot
Drops from Nexus-Prince Shaffar in Mana-tombs (heroic)
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Thottbot
wtf do these drop exactly
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Thottbot
i'm not good with gear but in my guild my druid is the usual tank an i'm trying too stack my gear with some stam, resilliance and some att power/agi]] so this would be good for anyone who can tank good for some DPS class's/speccs
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