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评论来自
18616
Possibly a heroic drop. I've never seen it.
评论来自
20179
Part of the tier 2 look-a-like. No set bonus, but has cute tier2 looks with different colors.
Head:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27520
(Greathelm of the Unbreakable)
Legs:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27527
(Greaves of the Shatterer)
Chest:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28262
(Jade-Skull Breastplate)
Boots:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27813
(Boots of the Colossus)
Shoulders:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27847
(Fanblade Pauldrons)
Gloves:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28390
(Thatia's Self-Correcting Gauntlets)
Bracers:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27459
(Vambraces of Daring)
Waist:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27672
(Girdle of the Immovable)
评论来自
17977
0.4% drop rate? I hope to god that's wrong
评论来自
22164
Best blue tank shoulders in the game. If you wish to obtain the socket bonus, I suggest the following (rare) gems:
Red socket:
4 agi 6 sta:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24055
8 dodge rating:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24032
Blue socket:
12 sta:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24033
If you're cheap you can also use a 3 agi 4 sta gem in the red socket and a 9 sta gem in the blue.
Personally I added a Scryer exalted inscription to them as well, they're an amazing pair of shoulders and well worth it.
评论来自
Lunie
Parry rating is getting buffed by 25% in the 2.1 patch, which makes these even better. :)
"The amount of parry rating needed to get 1% parry has been reduced by 25%."
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
评论来自
Takua1
Tier 2 Remake Set stats
Armor: 6670
Strength: 180
Stamina: 270
Defense Rating: 150
Shield Block Value: 103
Parry Rating: 18
Dodge Rating: 3
Red Sockets: 2
Yellow Sockets: 4
Blue Sockets: 3
评论来自
48582
Whats better ? these or the bold from murmur in SL ? :-)
评论来自
53404
I've ran heroic crypt 11 times , but this nice shoulder never drop for me =( too bad. 24 badge now
评论来自
MuffinKing
these are very good shoulder a tank should try to get... these should be epic IMHO.
评论来自
bathazar
For a protection paladin would one use these or
Spaulders of Dementia
?
Dementia would be better for TPS for warriors since paladins dont rely on melee dmg to gain threat, and Fanblade have better avoidance even though the added agility would give some dodge...
Socketing this with
Solid Star of Elune
and
Regal Nightseye
giving it:
16 str
40 stam
20 def rating
18 parry rating
4 dodge rating
Some feedback, I want to know which ones are better for
paladin
tanking
评论来自
Allakhazam
is this the wrath graphic what color is it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Fanblade Pauldrons
Binds when picked upShoulder Plate
873 Armor
+16 Strength
+22 Stamina
Red Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +3 Parry Rating
Durability 80 / 80
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases defense rating by 20.
Equip: Increases your parry rating by 15.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ive noticed that all the Good Warrior Tank gear on this site has a VERY low drop rate % wise, is it really that hard to get?
评论来自
Allakhazam
the names of the other parts of this "set"
Greathelm of the Unbreakable
Fanblade Pauldrons
Jade-Skull Breastplate
Thatia's Self-Correcting Gauntlets
Vambraces of Daring
Girdle of the Immovable
Greaves of the Shatterer
Boots of the Colossus
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drops from
Shirrak the Dead Watcher
in
Auchenai Crypts
when run in Heroic Mode.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Do you think these are better than the shoulderguards of the bold? Just wondering, because I think the bold is better imo.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it on my first run and put 2x solid star of elune. The gem "set" bonus is imo very bad +3 parry raiting is like 0.1% so i skiped that and went for stamina as i already have over 490 def
评论来自
Thottbot
This item is part of a set which uses the Wrath item models, except with different colours and similar statistics. It has no set bonuses, however.
Links to all pieces of the set follow:
Helm:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=59264
Shoulders:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=60197
Chest:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=59690
Bracers:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=60074
Gloves:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=59694
Belt:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=60176
Pants:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=59793
Boots: Boots of the Colossus (Not yet on thottbot)
评论来自
Thottbot
shoulders drop from shirrak the dead watcher in auch crypts in heroic mode
评论来自
Thottbot
LOL.. Pallys needing warrior gear is by far the worst thing that happened to the horde...
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm definatly liking the look of these over my shoulderguards of the bold(basically same stats), but I'm wondering:
How hard are the heroic instances? I'm a fairly geared Karazhan tank, and I've never really had a need to go into a heroic until now.
评论来自
Thottbot
If he has pieces of this set, he was most likely tanking the instance or healing a druid who was tanking. I doubt he took them from a warrior that was tanking unless that warrior didn't need them.
评论来自
Thottbot
im a kara tank, and when your in the curator room you have to tank mutliple elites called "siphoners" maybe you didnt relize that in the new patch thunderclap generates threat, also if your raid attacks 1 at a time you should be fine. I'm a prot war and ive never had aggro trouble in kara, the only fight for aggro is me and the other tank lol
评论来自
Thottbot
Tier 2 Remake Set stats
Armor: 6670
Strength: 180
Stamina: 270
Defense Rating: 150
Shield Block Value: 103
Parry Rating: 18
Dodge Rating: 3
Red Sockets: 2
Yellow Sockets: 4
Blue Sockets: 3
评论来自
Thottbot
Finally, after my 11th heroic crypts run, the shoulders finally dropped...finally. I now have the entire wrath set on my tanking paladin. I tank Kara weekly just fine and we are clearing to Curator. I still use the Timewardens Leggings tho :/
Awesome set, very nice for any tank. Worth the ridiculus trouble to get. (took me 2 months of farming)
GL all who are after this gear :)
Samsonscott
70 Paladin
<Solidarity>
Malygos Server
评论来自
Thottbot
As tanks, paladins are still looked down upon, especially when raiding is considered. It's something that is going to take time for people to get used to, but paladins have the ability to tank raid bosses, our itemization is just disgustingly weak. Put a prot paladin with the correct spec in full kara tanking gear like most MT's have and gruul, nightbane, and prince fights would still be about the same. Paladins have an excpetional threat system which scales and is ideal for when bosses need to be burned down at a certain phase (i.e. prince) or immdeiately. We have the ability, talents, and gear to do the job, it just takes the rest of the raid to know what theyre doing as well to get the job done. You don't see it happening because no one wants it to, sadly.
评论来自
Thottbot
Paladin tanks can be great, but sadly there isn't many items out for them, so really I say they do 1 of 3 things.
Run as a healer with a DRUID tanking for the gear.
Run as a tank and need it justified.
Run as a DPS, ninja it and then wipe the group, bubble hearthing away last second.
评论来自
Thottbot
As a 70 holy priest, all's I have to say is YES!
That was a response to a post a while back, but back to the subject!
I personally often have paladins and feral druids tank for me. I like a paladin tank because a paladin tank can use lay of hands, which has saved my ass in BM once. Here's how. The last boss for BM was entering through the portal and did so immediately after the last non boss rift was closed. I had no mana and no time to drink because I was automatically in combat because of how close he had spawned to the previous rift. The enhancement shaman who was on DPS started off healing, while I through a renew and flash heal up. I burned inner focus and shadowfiend and got enough to heal the tank for a bit. A little while later with me oom again, and the boss almost down the shaman threw a heal or two, and the tank used lay of hands! I used what heals I had and we won. I admit it was definately a bad time for me, but it is a time to show the power of protadins! And yes I like the healadin nerf because I don't like how they ninja my cloth gear in dungeons where you use two healers like Arc(Yes, I have soloed healed Arc, but I prefer a second healer to make my life easier.) I prefer resto druids and resto shamans, because they don't get instant cast no mana heals every other second AKA healadins. (Yes, I am exagarating, but they do have some specs that boggle the mind.) Anyways, good luck all!
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm a clothy healer so I have no right to say who these go to however...
I have been through heroic AC a few times and other heroics, and I have had a paladin tank Heroic AC before. I admit he was getting hit harder then a warrior, but with good DPS and my heals we did just fine that run. We have become friends since then. I know he tanks Kara, if he is MT or OT I do not know.
Shadrol Out.
评论来自
Thottbot
auch crypts on heroic is more technical and a bit hairy than extremely crushing.
basically you're dealing with pulls that include two hummanoids which upon being aggro'd spawn two undead. there are two 3 mob pulls leading up to 1st boss. which means you will be up against a 6 enemy mob. fun fun.
tankadins can come up with their own strat. im sure they'd shine in here especially.
tanks: it's nice to run this with two mages, a priest, and an ot/melee dps. or two priests a mage and a ot/melee dps. it is NICE, but not the _WAY_ per se (pardon me, trying to thwart some snobby snobs there ;)
cc/ot humanoids and down undead 1st as they are non-elites.
on occasion an undead will spawn that has the ability to possess you in chains. once it possesses a player it disappers and now the player possessed is your new target until you break the chains by reducing their hp by half. if your priest is on the ball he/she will shackle this possessing prick 1st.
the cloth undead (esp the monks) prolly should go down 1st. that said the plated undead shield bash and will make healing a pain in the butt for your healer if not cc'd.
what else? grammer? pffft :P
shirrak or what's his/her/its name is an interesting boss fight and very easy once you become aquainted with him/her/it. he/she/it doesn't hit the tank too hard, but he/she/it can one-hit the other players. shirrak will target someone, lay down a fire beacon, and pitch a fireball that has an aoe range. if you get hit, good luck staying up. though 4 players are able to take him out if you lose a player early.
we tanked him/her/it about 10 yards from the edge of the stairs and had each player positioned in four corners: two at each side of the stairs, and two behind shirrak. once you're targeted and the fire beacon drops, RUN, avoid the aoe fireball and go back into position.
lastly, spell cast time is hampered greatly while fighting shirrak. keep your tank above 50% hp at all times. this is also why a druid as the ot/melee dps helps if you are not using a shadow/holy priest pair.
评论来自
Thottbot
I've done this dungeon before with one hunter, one lock, one holy priest(me), one protection paladin, and one balance druid. The hunter used frost trap to CC the mobs, though it isn't a sheep, as long as you have a good healer and enough DPS to down the mobs quickly, you'll do fine, and yes the paladin tanked well...Oh wait I said that earlier =D, I just though I'd comment on the last comment =D.
评论来自
Thottbot
Can I just make this clear, to stop the arguements?
This post is intitled Fanblade Pauldrons.
Fanblade Pauldrons are an item which drops from Heroic Auch' Crypts.
Being a heroic instance, this instance takes a certain level of competance, you generally can't run this group with your average PuG.
What I'm trying to say, is that people are whining about paladins taking this over warriors. If you have a successful Heroic instance group/team, you're not going to have both a protection Paladin and protection Warrior. This wouldn't work, you would lack DPS, and therefore struggle to down bosses. Many groups do not mix these two together, as people usually have a certain degree of sense. So, either class may take these pauldrons, and I don't think anyone can say anything against either class who has obtained these shoulders, Paladin, or Warrior. Congratulations to them, and I hope you enjoy the item.
Discussions about who deserves what loot are very valid, but in the end, it doesn't come down to who "needs" it most, either sides of the arguement will argue they need it. It comes down to who rolls highest, who has the most DKP, or is highest on the Suicide list. Consideration and Empathy is of course an issue, but most of the time, the issue is out of your control, and you're most likely going to have another chance to get your item. Behind players are Real People, and to be obtaining items of high desirability, such as T4 and T5, you usually are part of a raiding guild, where selfishness is not tolerated, and a community atmosphere is encouraged, thus making loot less a problem.
I wish you the best of luck on obtaining these pauldrons, as they are the best until Warbringers, and fairly easily obtained. Paladins and Warriors alike. Enjoy.
评论来自
Thottbot
Warrior tanks have advantages, and Paladin tanks have advantages, both depending on the situation.
I'll label the bigger advantages, and I'll probably miss a few, but hopefully clear up some misconceptions.
Warriors
Can avoid fear, debuff enemies to lower damage taken(Spell Reflect, Disarm, Demo shout and Thunderclap), can interupt(shield bash), dispel buffs on enemies(shield slam), and can reach a higher maximum health with equivalent gear(A- Commanding shout, B- higher maximum base health). I haven't researched this, but apparenly paladins get stuck with about 1500-2000 less maximum health.
Paladins
Can cleanse themselves and group, can bubble(themselves and others{can still be useful in certain situaions when tanking, although not often recommended}), Can buff the group, Salvation, Kings, Wisdom, Sanctuary(excluding might, might ~=~ battle shout, though more useful as warriors usually have commanding shout up when tanking anything tough, and different buffs can be cast on different members), Can heal themselves once threat is established(when the healer is having a bit of trouble keeping up or mana is getting low), Paladins have multiple aura's for different situations.
Alot of the abilites / advantages I didn't mention because both classes have ways to deal with it. Example Taunt / Mocking Blow vs Righteous Defense or Blessing of Freedom and Protection vs Intercept / Intervene, and discussing these differences could go on for months.
Coming from a rogue, I have found threat is more dependant on the Player / Specific talents they chose, than the Class they are playing(referring to single target damage, paladins do have an early advantage tanking multiple targets, throughout the fight, a warrior will catch up as the fight goes on). Though Paladins have a definate advantage when they buff me with Blessing of Salvation(compared to a warrior tanking with no Salv on me).
When choosing a Pally or Warrior tank(or druid, who I consider fairly equivalent to both classes) it depends more on the guild(group) class balance than the class itself. A selfless guildmate will spec to what the guild needs most.
Just my opinion, but I hope it will resolve some misconceptions.
评论来自
Thottbot
Pallies and Warriors can both tank they just have different ways of getting the job done and if you say "Warrriors own pallies at tanking then thats just like saying a warrior in full tier 4 is better than a warrior in tier 2 because your just looking at one pally there are many very good tank pallies and some that are not so good, same as warriors
and i am a tank, a warrior ...
ROCK ON PALLIES lol =P
评论来自
Thottbot
This item goes to the tank whichever class that might be. If you are running this HEROIC instance with both a Warrior Tank and a Pally Tank however, then you are @#$%^&ED for wasting space in a 5 man reserved for dps, cc, and a healer and you most likely won't get past the first boss to even concern yourself with who gets this item. This isn't a raid, it's a 5 man instance.
评论来自
Thottbot
Like all Wrath look alikes set...this shoulders still havent dropped for me...it's so annoying.
评论来自
Thottbot
Seriously, I wonder why some parts of this 'set' are heroic only. Take the
Shoulderguards of the Bold
for instance: they drop in normal mode Shadow Labyrinth (which is very easy once you know it) and they are equally as good (you can discuss on little specifics of both, but face it, they're about the same).
Same goes for the other heroic only parts of this 'set', the waist, wrist and feet parts. It's just weird they require heroic while (1) there's equally as good (maybe a
little
bit worse) items in normal instances and; (2) there's some better items than these in heroics anyways.
So I can't see anyone actually going after these except for the looks (which I will do).
评论来自
Thottbot
Drops from Shirak the dead watcher in Heroic Crypts. A very hard boss to PUG if you don't have communication, expect most pugs to break or atleast wipe two or three times before he goes down.
I've killed this boss in heroic mode maybe 20 times, and seen thme drop maybe twice.
They're probably the best pre-raid plate shoulders for tanks, but they're only a slight bit better than the bold shoulders which are pretty easy to get. Great to have, but not really worth the time I'm afraid.
评论来自
Thottbot
Do these shoulders drop more often than shoulderguards of the bold from shadow labrinth?
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