评论来自 11664

It seems on the live server this has been renamed to Netherblade (Off the Weapons trainer in IF).

Other than that at 70 the +hit seems to be .95%

(The materials seem to be off from other sites I've seen as well I think Adamantine is involved)

评论来自 kevalvaine

Break down to basic reagents needed:
84x Fel Iron Ore - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23424
56x Eternium Ore - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23427
200x Mote of Shadow - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22577
200x Mote of Mana - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22576

评论来自 9857

If you drop blacksmithing you will no longer be able to equip the sword.

评论来自 earthblade

Has anyone tried making another Fireguard after upgrading to Blazeguard yet? Is it possible?

评论来自 25642

I dropped enchanting pre-expansion pack and picked up weaponsmithing because I'd seen this sword. I had it crafted and ready for me the day I hit 70, and it's a 10 DPS upgrade over anything else available to me. Probably cost me 900 gold in materials because I've been instancing and not mining very much, but now I'm 70 the money is flowing back in and I don't regret the cost for this weapon at all.

As a tank I like the fast speed, and as someone in a smaller, non-bleeding-edge guild, I like the fact that I can keep up (somewhat) with raiding gear. Producing my own weapons for raiding also helps keep the Rogues and other tanks happy -- one less person competing for drops.

评论来自 Excrucio

i find it hard to use this wep for tanking cos of the lower damage.
i regret making it for my warrior esp for tanking. now its pretty much on my off hand when i farm. QQ i owe people primal mana..

评论来自 33767

This plus Runic Hammer seem to be a winning combo for Combat Rogues and Fury Warriors. =D

评论来自 Jeeman

DW them, yes

Fireguard AND Blazeguard

Not 2x fireguard or 2x blazeguard

评论来自 37179

first of all i'm not a blacksmith so my question may sound noobish....:D :

do u need some special recipe to craft this sword or u simply learn it from blacksmith trainer ?

pls advise....tks

评论来自 37259

Although its a very nice offhand for Rogues Latro's shifting sword is better DPS :/ perhaps though upgrades you will get more DPS but overall Latro's is the best offhand for Rogues.

评论来自 Shada

The blade's called Fireguard....but crafting it involves no Primal Fire, and there's no passive "on equip" Fire Resistance. I feel Blizzard made an oversight!

Equivalent to King's Defender from KZ Chess event, lacks the King's + def and armour bonuses but has 15 Agility the Defender lacks...if you're in a smaller guild or simply don't have the time to raid, this is pretty much the only way to go for your weapon as a tank.

I happily switched to Swordsmith from Armoursmith to get it, and it means I can stop running Black Morass for Millennium Blade and/or Lahtro's Shifting Sword, neither of which ever seem to drop for me.

评论来自 deirae

What kind of an enchant would be of interest to a 70 Protection Paladin on this weapon?

I am using it in a tank set, so adding INT to it would be a bit wrong I think, seeing as I have a seperate weapon for my healing set, that has the INT enchant on it.

Is Mongoose only useful for rogues?

评论来自 3473

The Mana Wraiths just outside of Area 52 are the best mobs in the game to farm for Motes of Mana. The drop rate is around 25%, and they're only level 67 or 68. It greatly helps to have a flying mount while farming them so you can fly across the ledges and not have to deal with the Earth elementals roaming the crevasses below.

As a level 70 warrior I farmed 5 primals per hour here, so it only took me about 4 hours to farm them all. Like someone said above, the Primal Shadows are dirt cheap, and the rest of the mats can be found pretty easily as well.

评论来自 13166

any changes in 2.1.0?

评论来自 trinket

This weapon is great to have as an OH with https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29124#00z MH.
Both of these don't require much time at all, there's an upgrade for the OH with some heroic runs, and the Vindicators brand can be upgraded to https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30733#00Rz or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28729 which are both pretty easy to obtain for any Kara clearing guild.

评论来自 iamthedark

on my warrior i'd say that this is a great start and that it will be awesome to have better weapons than the other 70s with the all-glatiator sets. it will also be usfull because it will make rolling in raids not an object unless it is for armor or maybe the twin blades of azzinoth. the teir 3 of this weapon is at a stunning 95dps. it is also one of the top 1h weapons. im an arms warrior so im also going to get the master swordsmith 2h wepon, so i have a better farming and soloing wep.

评论来自 59025

ur lucky if the primal shadows are dirt cheap..on Laughing skull EU theyre 16g each.

:-(

评论来自 adrianslaney

Has anyone upgraded an enchanted Fireguard or Blazeguard? I was wondering if the enchantment is blown by the upgrade. I am assuming it is. :(

评论来自 64232

I wanna ask is Fireguard still worth all this crapy blacksmithing skillin' up with today's new arena weapons? I wanted to use it as mainhand and Latro's Shifting Sword as offhand, but actually the new dagger in mainhand is 2x better than Fireguard. Please answer fast coz I think that Ive just lost whole weak farming ores to increase BS -.-

评论来自 47175

I think this is one of the cheapest epic lvl70 items one can craft, I didn't have to farm a single primal upto this sword and makes a great offhand for a combat rogues or fury warriors.

评论来自 80233

Both a viable dps and tanking sword. If you've been unlucky and Suneater hasn't dropped in Heroic Mech for you or your guild isn't yet up to Chess in Karazhan this sword can still be very useful.
More dps than the quest blues you'll find at level 70, so more threat. 1.6 speed is excellent for heroic strike and therefore threat generation. 1% chance to hit is also useful for tanking, missing a shield slam especially early in a fight could be quite painful.
230 health and *about* 0.5% dodge, add an agility enchant on there and you've got yourself a fine tanking sword.

评论来自 71213

200 motes of mana on my server = 400g
200 motes of shadow = 200g
felsteel bar 5g per bar

total cost if u want to "buy" this sword"
670g

评论来自 70803

What would be better to tank with, this or 'The Sun Eater' from Heroic Mechanar? and why? Thanks :)

评论来自 Malovent

Wouldnt this make a better offhand? https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28307

评论来自 132443

I am a 70 dw fury warrior and want this for my warrior off hand what would be a good mh weapon that goes up to glad

评论来自 120090

With patch 2.4.2 does this sword is still unique ?

评论来自 Allakhazam

And the materials, at least for this sword, can be obtained without high-end raiding.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Make this sword last week it's sweet

评论来自 Allakhazam

Currently using Barbarous Blade with +35 agil, but starting to get mats for this now for my Hunter on Dath Remar. Will slap +15 agil on this and DW it with something else just as mean! Any ideas for a nice 1h offhand weapon that would suit this? High agility/stamina is my pre-requisite, although will consider other options. Thx all:)

评论来自 Allakhazam

When looking for a sword you can use without being a Master Swordsmith make sure it isnt BoP (such as this one). You can only craft it for yourself. A sword like Khorium Champion - someone can craft for ya.

评论来自 Allakhazam

any1 know if it is possible to dual wield 2x of theese i'm 346 Master Swordsmith and lvl 68 and need to know this any1 that can confirm that i can use 2xFireguard at the same time

评论来自 Allakhazam

If you enchant this weapon and than make the upgrade does it keep the enchant?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Do you have to be a master swordsmith to use one? I'm a herbalist and alchemist and sawa pally with one, and wanted one. I'm trying to contact the maker of the blade, but wanted to know up front if it's even possible? My weapon skill for sword is 345/345. Thanks guys.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm sorta new to the topic, and I'm just wondering if u need to be a master swordsmith to use this. Or if a swordsmith could make it for me.

评论来自 Allakhazam

can anyone tell me, if its possible to wear this weapon AND one of the upgradet ones?

评论来自 Allakhazam

mats are a little easier to get.

83 dps vs 81 dps.

2.60 vs 1.60 attack speed.

felsteel isnt unique...

anyone?

评论来自 Allakhazam

makin this sword will lead to makin the best sword in the game

评论来自 Allakhazam

Finished this sword for my rogue on 1/25/07 on Ysera Horde side. Motes of mana are easy enough to farm from the mana guys in Netherstorm over by the ruined city. Motes of shadow all over from demons and such, and the bars are bars obviously. Hardest part I found was getting the 28 eternium ore to complete the felsteel.

Edited, Jan 25th 2007 11:58pm by vegasknightt

评论来自 Allakhazam

Made myself one of these beauties yesterday (9th april 07). Currently using it in the main hand with a mongoose enchant, and a blackout truncheon in the offhand. Can quite safely say when i have flurry, mongoose proc and the blackout truncheon proc i hit rather fast :)

For me, having super fast weapons on a fury warrior seems to work so well. I know most people go for slow MH, fast OH, but having super fast weapons like daggers seems to work so much better.

Was surprised at how easy the mats for this were. Bought the primal shadow for like 21g total, bought about 10 primal mana for around 220g, got given a few by nice guildies and farmed the rest. Bought most of the felsteel (i have mining 375 but i also have chronic laziness 376).

Very happy with it, would recommend to any fury warriors/people with sword smithing. Was 100% worth unlearning armoursmithing for it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Mining was maxed after 48 hours of playing. Eternium drops quite well.
Grinding the 20 primal mana and 20 primal shadow is easy but boring as hell.

Finished mine on 23 Jan. 2007.

Best tank sword at this state, easy to farm but only for Masters in Mining and Swordsmithing. Sword can be updated twice as you advance ... so it's never a waste.

Edited, Jan 26th 2007 6:34am by WarlordBelit

Edited, Jan 26th 2007 6:36am by WarlordBelit

评论来自 Allakhazam

I already have most of the mats... just short a few bars and manas. Can't wait to make this bad boy and try it out in pvp.
Every master swordsmith should have one of these. Easy to make and can be made into the best 1h sword in the game atm.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Just curios never thought about it but can you make both the Lionheart blade and this one and once you make the next stage for Fireguard could you make Fireguard again since its unique you can use both the one handed swords. Im guessing you can just wanted to make sure

评论来自 Thottbot

This sword is probably the easiest to make since it uses felsteel which is very easily obatined, since both can be found when mining for fel iron. The primal mana spot I found was very easy in Netherstorm. To give a clue, it is a ghost town with a tower. my rogue guildie and I farmed 10+ primal mana in no time. Primal shadow is easy all over the place. farm mine from Death Door in Black Blade Mountain, since I got nearly 1-2 mote of shadow every drop.

On reflection this sword is easiest to make, since the Lionheart blade requires Khorium, hardened admantite and primal might (this is most diffcult to obatin, since it is alchemy recipe). Cost in my AH is 170-350G for one!

Only disappointing point is the unique status on this sword, that just blows since warriors would love to make 2 Fireguard and enchant both with crusader.

P.S. BS training cost is 9g which is cheap compared to upgrade sword Blazeguard which is 45g!

评论来自 Thottbot

you get the recipie from wepon trainer
and you can make both fireguard and Lionheart blade there are 2 Wepon trainers that teach theese plans as far as i know and that is 1 in lower city in shattrah and 1 in IF in the great forge

评论来自 Thottbot

Talked to GM and he said that if you are no longer master swordsmith, you will no longer be able to use Fireguard.

评论来自 Thottbot

Can you dual wield this with a higher rank ? Blazeguard and fireguard? I know they are unique but i do not know if they count as diffenrent weapons if they are of differen rank/tier.

评论来自 Thottbot

'it's a main hand only weapon'? Zomg.. and for weeks i've had it in my offhand.. What am I doing wrong?

评论来自 Thottbot

This Sword is a BOP 350 blacksmith weapon. This can be trained by the weaponsmith in Shattrath. This weapon will only be used by a 350+ swordsmith. Hope this helps

评论来自 Thottbot

There seems to be a current question as weather you can duel weild a fireguard and a blazeguard.

The way I understand the mechanics of unique wepons is that if you try to craft another fireguard in the attempt to upgrade it you will be given a message saying 'you can only posses one of these items' and the crafting will cancel.

On the other hand if you upgrade the fireguard first to the blazeguard and then craft another fireguard there technicaly should be no problem since you dont posses one already, which in turn would alow you to dual-weild these 2 different wepons.

If there are any facts which are wrong in here please feel free to corect me.

Theenforcer, Stormreaver

评论来自 Thottbot

Confirmed. Shots have been posted to Wowhead showing as much. As yu say though, you'd have to upgrade your existing Fireguard first.

评论来自 Thottbot

You CAN NOT duel wild two of these nor two of Blazegaurd, BUT you can dual wield one blazegaurd and one firegaurd...and let me tell you its fricken sweet! especialy if you've got matching armor! the taruen in the blue pic is looks like me...except I'm a Draenei.

评论来自 Thottbot

I've recently built this weapon for my 70 Holy/Protection paladin. I stack Holy Venegeance with Seal of Vengeance so fast now (1.6 speed, woot!), which really help in both soloing and PvP. Then again, this is Seal of Venegeance, so I guess Horde paladins and all of you Seal of Command fans are out of luck. Anyway, it still owns.

评论来自 Thottbot

As soon as you hit lvl 70, stop what you're doing and make this sword. If you need to lvl blacksmithing up in order to do so... then so be it. I am saying this because this 1handed sword is one of the only 1handed swords in the game that you will always win on because afterall it's you who is crafting it. The mats are very easy to grind.

The Sun-Eater and King's Defender are both very good swords too (better in some areas than this one), but what everyone seems to forget is that the drop rate on both of these swords is very,very, very low. And even if it drops, there is no guarantee you will get it depending on who the raid leader thinks it should go to first... or god forbid that nub Warlock in your pick-up group rolls need on it.

I have run Heroic Mech 12 times now and the one time Suneater dropped myself (war tank), a healadin, a rogue, a hunter, and a lock rolled need on it. the Lock won, and disenchanted it into a Void Crystal. both the Rogue and the Hunter went Ape-$%^&... and i probably would have too, if it weren't for the fact that in those 12 runs of Heroic Mech i had also picked up 6 primal nethers and am 2 away from upgrading this sword to Blazeguard.

So, whichever class you might be. Save yourself the agony of grinding instances or raids for something with a low drop rate. that some nub will probably just steal from you anyway, and spend the couple hours of mat grinding to make this sword and save your Sanity!

评论来自 Thottbot

Just a thought,

If you already have an expensive enchant on your Fireguard, want to upgrade, then make ANOTHER Fireguard to use in the off-hand... it could happen :)

Sell your current Fireguard to a vendor (obviously DO NOT ZONE out). You should be able to craft a "second" Fireguard, then upgrade it, and buyback your original, enchanted Fireguard.

Dual wielding without losing your original enchant.

评论来自 Thottbot

Take my advice hunters - DO NOT BOTHER WITH THIS WEAPON. I did and feel like a @#$%^& because I didnt' do enough research before power-leveling up BS for this Sword.

Lets just say that you get the Blazefury AND the Blazeguard, dual-wielding.

You just spent(considering you actually get to that point - I stopped after crafting just the fireguard)
40 primal shadow
40 primal mana
30 primal air
28 felsteel bars
10 primal nether
5 nether vortex

Now you have 2 epic weapons wtg. Compare what you have to the Sonic Spear

Blazeguard & Blazefury:
36 agility
53 stamina
35 hit rating

Sonic Spear:
35 agility
30 stamina
24 hit rating
60 Attack Power

bottom line, don't be stupid! (like I was) Go get your Sonic Spear like a good hunter from SLabs roughly 10% drop rate from Murmur - though 12 runs and still haven't seen it myself).

20 stamina, 1 agility, and 6 hit rating is NOT worth the sinkhole that this sword is. Plus, Sonic Spear is a BLUE and has 60 additional attack power... insane.

Anyways, to cover my losses I'm going to switch to a master axesmith and make the Lunar Crescent- hopefully that doesn't backfire too.

评论来自 Thottbot

you can learn master swordsmith in everlook

评论来自 Thottbot

Just so everyone knows.

If you were to say have Mongoose on your t1 and you want to make the t2 sword. Vendor the t1. DONT ZONE OUT. make another t1 upgrade it to t2, and rebuy your t1 with mongoose from the vendor.
It does work. I've seen people do it.

评论来自 Thottbot

This is an awesome sword. I'm MT for our guild and we started Kara runs a week ago. The King's Defender didn't drop from the Chess event and my 13 heroic Mech runs hasn't produced the Sun Eater.
I farmed the primals with some very helpful guildies in less than a day - I already had the Felsteel.
I put a free fire enchant on it and used it in Kara in our last run - all I gotta say is WOW! My DPS is up significantly resulting in more threat allowing our DPSers to unload a little more.
I'm toying with going with a serious enchant such as Mongoose but will wait and see if the KD drops - if it doesn't in the next month I'll ante up the gold for the Mongoose.

All in all, a very impressive sword.

评论来自 Thottbot

this swors can cost 900g or more now that they lowered drop rate on primal shadows. Now Primal Mana and Shadow go for aout 20g each on alot of servers.
20Gx20=400g(manas)
20Gx20=400g(shadows)
100g(Felsteel Bar mats)
400g+400g+100g=900g

depending on your server it can be 800g or even 1000g.

评论来自 Thottbot

i just made this today im so excited....now just 3 more lvls until i can use it lol

评论来自 Thottbot

So...you have to be a master swords men to use fireguard?

评论来自 Thottbot

Just a little FYI, I made my second fireguard last night and I can DW them. I have a guildie, and people on here, say you cannot DW this item. Its simply not true as 2.4 must have removed that restriction. So, fellow fury warriors, have some great fun DW these 2 weapons! I love it so far. Blazeguard and Blazefury here we come!

评论来自 Thottbot

its not unique anymore u can weild 2 firegaurds blazegaurds w/e it goes forall 1h crafted weapons

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