When one upgrades the Breastplate of Kings to the Bulwark of Kings, are the socketed gems retained?
Cooldown is 30 minutes.
If I were a Warrior Armorsmith, I'd definetly use vendor gems and cheap enchants before upgrading: anyway even if it has a huge cooldown, the Use effect is still very useful for PvP: it's another Lifegiving Gem that doesn't require to be equipped!
How is the use-ability implemented? I can think of three possibilities:
A: Heals (temporarily) for 1500, max HP remains unchanged. Meaning you could end up with less HP than you started with if you used it at full health, "overhealed" and the buff expired.
B: Increases maximum HP by 1500 and heals (temporarily) for 1500. Like Last stand.
C: Max HP increased by 1500, health remains at the same %. So if you're low on HP, it would only heal for 1500 * currentHP%. Which is pointless in this case.
From the wording in the tiptext it looks like A, but B would make much more sense. B is like a second Last stand, and would be great as it could also be used preemptively on hard-hitting mobs to increase your HP-pool. However, Commanding shout used to work like B, but was nerfed into C if I'm not mistaken. But C doesn't make any sense on a 30 min cooldown "oh-sh*t, gief hp plz!"-ability like this one.
So my money is on option B. Confirm anyone?
This was a great chest piece....before the gladiator set. The amount of time farming nethers, leveling non valued bs gear and gold I put into this, would of been much better spent in going weapon smith. Sure it is a nice piece, but in retro, I would not go this route.
Also, the use function is not available in arenas.
Considering respeccing to armorsmith (thanks to winning the decap from prince in KZ.. making my axesmith for fury DPS kinda stupid) and already having half the nethers and materials for the T1 chest I would like to know if there are any decent fury chests comparable to this one. Thanks to being a prot warrior and maintanking loads of instances, I don't have first interest there in DPS gear, but I take what I can get.
Any remarks on that question ?
Note to Blizz: Where is the TANK gear for armorsmiths? Is there anything worthwhile for a warrior or pally tank? Why would a tank spend 10 primal nethers for this if they can get a far better one for 75 badges now? Last I checked the nethers would cost 100 badges alone. Please give plate and mail a reason to be armorsmiths.
My tank is a BS and I'm picking this up. With the daily heroic quests it's easy to put together a group, so 10 Nethers really isn't that bad to come up with. As for tanking with it, this piece offers the most armor and health (on par with the 75 badge chest) and for 2 vortex (which you will have before you down Lurker), you can have one of the highest armor/stamina chest piece in the game AND an extra 'oh crap' button. This +Hit is a great threat generation stat, and the crit doesn't hurt either. True, the same piece with +Expertise and +Defense would be nice, but I'll take what we can get. All in all, this is a great tanking chest, you just have to make up the +Defense elsewhere.
except for teh fact that u have to wait 30 minutes of cooldown :(
The upgrade from Brestplate of Kings for Armorsmiths, requires the 10x primal nether (rare BoP reagent) and 10x primal mana to make.
Yes it destroys all gems and enchants... it´s pity about my epic gems :( but the breastplate roxx
Does the upgrade from Breastplate to Bulwark destroy any gems you have in the Breastplate slots and does it remove any enchants?
the worst is, that u cant use the abiliy in arena, the 1500hp+150str
DAM! 50 strength 36 stama and pretty much you can choose when to use crusader
YOWIE! Thats sweet!
These plans are already available (although no one can get them yet because it requires 375 BS).. No need to worry about drop rates or paying crazy money for plans at the AH
It also increases size when its used.
1) This is BoP - i.e. Armorsmiths only
2) This is a stepping stone - it's a necessary component of the much more uber
Bulwark of Ancient Kings
3) The end goal (BoAK) is one of the best epic chests in game. This is a pretty good stepping stone.
4) The materials are easy to farm, with the exception of the Primal Nether. Those require the killing and looting of high end instance bosses.
Does anyone know if when I upgrade my BP, the socketted gems will remain? Thanks!
gems and enchants are removed when you upgrade craftable armor pieces
I have done quite a few of the 5mans, non heroic. I have had ONE primal nether drop (off the end boss of shattered halls, if it matters). So it CAN drop outside of heroic instances, but the chance is so slim as to be almost non-existant.
does cd reset everytime you enter arena?
This is an amazing BP. Although the cooldown is horrible (30minutes) and that it
be used in arenas!
The CD is ideal if you want that extra spurt of DPS in PVE and it is even ideal in other situations if you're about to die.
The 1500 increases both the cap and your % of health. Unlike where commanding shout(in the next patch) will now only raise the cap of your health while keeping the % of health the same.
well im a tank and i been looking to boost my HP as well as my %hit in end game content where i tend to have a big % of miss on bosses so i aim
for socketing it with 3 sSoE 12sta gems and the ususal 15sta enchant and u get how much?
102STA on a chest alone...
as a 530 def tank going down to 520 isnt bad at all at the cost of +hit +crit even..
and ofc u get the extra "last stand"...long CD but still worth it..
wot u say?
This is the best chestpiece for the level you are at in the game (pre-SSC), for DPS OR tanking. Yes, it lacks defense, but 490 is easy to get without it. And the armor and stamina is the highest of any chestpiece. The +Hit is also great for tanking, plus an extra aww sh*t button that is on a seperate cooldown from Last Stand, Healing pots, and health stone. Extra strength and crit for your aggro is gravy.
Just need one more Nether to upgrade to this!
I totally agree with the person above. Blacksmithing, and particularly armorsmithing is a massive waste of time, energy and money. In Alchemy, Enchanting, jewelcrafting and other professions you benefit at any level from even the lowest level item (a +1 to damage enchant improves an unenchanted weapon) but with blacksmithing with the exception of sharpening stones and runes of warding (expensive, temporary benefits)you only benefit from the highest level items, which are insanely expensive to make (even excluding all the items you had to make and vendor for less than the value of the mats to get high enough to make them and only marginally better than items that drop, if better at all. As final insult, even if something is better than drops available now, just wait a bit and they will develop a new drop. Take any other professon in my opinion.
I am going to have to disagree with you in the fact that BSing is a waste of time. if u r a plate wearer (or in the lower lvls--chain) then u will almost always find an improvement in ur craft if u keep it up to date. i wont talk there because i know that is expensive and i am lvl 68 and have 257 BS, not something to be proud of. also if u have an enchanter alt just have them DE all of the green crafted items u make to get the money back-- trust me that works. and once u hit 200ish u can start making things that people wanna buy and u can make a prfit on--the first plate and chain items come to mind. and u can make more blues which are better than most in the game for their lvl phantom blade and the shatterer come to mind. i was looking on this page to see what i will be able to craft later on and this looks amazing, and u get all the mats back in the quality of the item. my 2 cents
You Can't use this in arena - that is stupid! We get ONE piece for armorsmithing and it is not even usable in the only place it would be worthy of it's 10 primal price. It's the ONLY reason I made it only to discover it was an ability not availale in arena.
What's the point of this cd? 30 min cooldown for 15 secs of uberness. Big deal. NOT worth the farming imho. Especially in BG's, where a pally can just stun you once and then the buff wear's out.
Now I need to 25 man raid for primal vortex's - yay...
This is an awesome bp. expensive but very awesome. and for those of you who are saying it isnt for tanks forget thast most of the time when there is a wipe its cuz the mage pyroblasted, tank lost aggro, mage dies, healer dies, grp wipes. something is seriously wrong with the healer and/or the tanks gear if he just dies from being hit to hard (this is all assuming a normal pull and othe rsuch things). remember thunderfury, hard not to huh? well that was the best tanking wep in the game cuz it did high dps and gave the tank a ton of threat, same here cept its a bp, and its got a free last stand thrown in. cant wait till i get this :-).
Honestly, are Nethers really that hard to get? I started collecting Nethers a week ago, and ive 5 now. Our guild just started heroics, and tbh the Coilfang Resevoir instances on heroic arent that hard at all. its all basically free Badges of Justice and a Nether each time. and being the guild MT(and no, we arent a big raiding guild, although we hope to start Kara soon), i have priority over the others for the nethers. and yes, this works as a tanking piece. currently, i only have the breastplate, and ive easily hit 490 defense without it. the extra crit and hit come in handy, seeing as most of my other gear is +def and +dodge, it makes it damn easier to hold aggro, especially against bosses that arent affected by threat. btw, in Normal mode lvl 70 instances (SL,SV,Tempest keep instances,Shattered Halls and BM) nethers have a 5% chance of dropping from the last boss, and 100% from last boss in all heroic dungeons.
I got it, finally. it took me about a week longer than i expected, but i got all the nethers together. i have to say, the effect is quite handy, has already helped me in a tight situation a few times. So, in my opinion, any prot warrior BS should get this pre Kara. I do plan to replace it with the Panzar'thar (or however thats spelt)but i cant see my self using anything else till then.
got this today. Look uber when u active it.
Well... believe it or not this is a pretty good PvP piece.
Now, I know that some of the items for this are bind on pick-up and require running through some instances... but come on a few runs through 5-man level 60 heroic instance is not that bad of a price to pay...
Now, here is what makes this item good for PvP, and suck at everything else.
First, it has 2 yellow slots, and a blue slot.
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT GOOD FOR! If you gave this thing like 1 meta gem, one blue and a yellow or replaced a yellow with a red or added ALL meta gem slots or something this would be a good piece but instead your stuck with a blue and two yellows.
So what's that good for? Well yellow slots provide spots resilance jewels. Two cheap +10 resilance jewels for like 50 gold and one blue slot that has like 15 or 18 stamina makes this piece WAY better, at
1.5 crit rating
1.3 hit rating
Which is pretty good for PvP, although right now the Merciless Gladiator items are better than this piece (except when you add two Nether Vortex's to this)
Now, here's the kicker. Look at the effect, basically plus 150 strength and stamina. The effect is okay, except for the 30 minute cooldown.
BUT NOT IN PvP! All cooldowns are effectively reduced to zero as well as all reagents. Plus 300 attack power and 1500 health is pretty insane, and considering that the fighting in PvP only lasts about 15 seconds anyways it makes it better than some of the other PvP items.
But considering that I don't have this item yet (damned primal mights) and no-one I know in PvP has this, or actually no-one I know at all actually has it, I would say the full extent of this effect is yet unknown, however it would restart every battle meaning that no matter what it would help you!
What would be awesome is if this effect had no cooldown in PvP like rapidfire and some other things but I don't think that's going to happen.
Alright, it's a pretty good piece, but is it worth the extra time? That's up to you. Since I'm a ret pally I really have no better piece than this to use, and all the ret items for PvP have no resilance. So for me, it's pretty awesome, but a warrior may just want his gladiator gear. So it's up to you, but this is a pretty awesome piece for PvP!
For you idiots who think the + hit and + crit of this armor are not good for tanking, think again. What do you think pisses a boss off more? A critical shield slam for 1.6k or a missed slam or a normal slam of 800?
Why don't you just look at your ktm or omen tps take a huge jump whenever you lay a crit.
Some of you people are brain dead.
oh, you guys. :P It's not about the fact that this is or is not a good tanking piece or can become one- hell, enchant an item and socket it with what ever the crap you want and it can pretty much become anything you want it to. Crap, with begganing stats of 35 strength and 55 stamina (A CRAPLOAD!) this piece is pretty malleable. And that last ditch effect is what makes this an AWESOME purple, use that ANYWHERE and it's good.
But, what the hell is it for? Lol typically items slots are in some relation to what the item does- for tanking, blue slots, dp'sing, red slots, PvP'ing, red and yellow.
This thing just has a blue and two yellows, standard slots I guess, but a little funky if you ask me lol.
I'm REALLY interested in this item, it's so freaking awesome :)
I have no problem with this having a 30 min CD. How quickly do you think you are going to get to each end game boss? Our guild is fairly well advanced, and even still, it takes a decent number of pulls from boss to boss in Kara. Example, back entrance to Kara, I've used this on Curator, and then not once between Curator and Prince. No matter how smoothly the run is going it takes a heck of a lot longer than 30 min to get to Prince.
Socket it with some SSoE or +parry gems and it's got great armor, and stam. If you don't have enough +def from your other gear to get to 490, then that's just sad. When you do get that epic chest peice to finally drop, then resocket it with some AP gems and crit gems and you're daily quests just got a heck of a lot easer.
This is a great hold over till you get that 'actual' tank chest peice.
Remember guys once you get these items from armrosmithing you cant go back and go to weaponsmithing and get those items cause if you do you cant wear your items from armorsmithing its really stupid that bliz made it that way but they did so take my advice.
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