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评论来自
12914
They look very much like Dragonstalker on the picture :/
评论来自
27804
Agree, the stats on these aren't all that.. I have socket/enchanted beast lord... that vs enchanted beastmaw is small upgrade (and only an upgrade on certain stats... )
评论来自
5385
If you are rebuilding your Dragonstalker set with lv. 70 epics consider pairing these with Maulgar's Warhelm (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28801
).
评论来自
Muscles
Stasia, lvl 70 elemental shaman took this over a hunter on Sunstrider EU. Is it me or is this good for hunter (blue leather shoulders from BM) and completely useless for elemental in a raid?
评论来自
zagi
Compared to tier 4 for enhancement shamans : (Using 8str and 4crit/4str gems on the tier4 piece)
+0.07% crit
- 4 Stamina
- 2 Intellect
-30 Attack Power
-18 Spelldamage
+7 mana per 5sec.
评论来自
Feanoro
Part of the "red Dragonstalker set".
Gloves
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28519
Helm
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31106
评论来自
25987
it still dosn't match the dps of Beastlord shoulders after the patch... for hunters.
评论来自
55411
They're still just "alright".
Stamina isn't so much undervalued in pve as it really is actually needed. In PvP of course. I have around 7500 hp buffed on my hunter(and he's just an alt)and in karazhan on Curator we go through 2 evocates and hes dead. Our dps is so incredible that hp doesn't really matter I mean it shouldn't anyway leave that for pvp. And on Moroes...heh...Stoneform ftw!
The mana regen on these is pretty nice. I notice many hunters complaining about mana problems nowadays and how Blizzard doesn't fix it. Thing is, it's staring them right in the face =/.
评论来自
zealvurte
The model of these shoulders are changing to those of the beast lord set (same skin too apparently) with 2.1.2.
Seems rather odd for them to update the previously matching shaman shoulders (
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28631
) to a another new reskin of Dragon Stalker, yet these are changing to match Beast Lord :S
评论来自
60642
The Dragonstalker set "remake"
Helm
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31106
Quest Reward (Teron Gorefiend, I am)
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28801
Gruul's Lair (High King Maulgar)
Chest
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28599
Karazhan (Nightbane)
Shoulders
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28589
Karazhan (Opera )
Boots
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30104
Serpenshine Cavern (Lady Vashj)
Legs
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28740
Karazhan (Netherspite)
Gloves
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28519
Karazhan (Maiden of Virtue)
评论来自
46185
The new skin for these are almost identical to the beast lord model but they are going to be more black.
评论来自
Vilesfury
Me and my guild just cleared the Opera House. I really had no intention of taking these shoulders, but they dropped anyways. The resto shammy didn't want them so I took them. Plenty of an upgrade for not even expecting waht I was receving.
评论来自
69115
These are excellent shoulders for a hunter, but I recently got them for my paladin (No hunters where in the raid at the time and no one else wanted them) and I am very pleased with them, the armor loss is not too bad if you have all plate otherwise, or one other mail piece.
评论来自
23676
Is it me or did they change the shoulders design very slightly in patch 2.2? It looks like the outer edge comes farther down on the arms now. At least it does on my Night Elf.
评论来自
Oley
If you want to replace your shoulders but can't get these get Season 1 Shoulders,their easy to get and just put it +12 attack power gems (doesn't matter if you don't get socket bonus). Thats for Hunters though not sure if their better for enh shammys
EDIT: These are better then enh shammy s1,for pve only though.
评论来自
barbeque
Season 4 just kicked in, and
Merciless Gladiator's Chain Spaulders
is now available cheaply for honor. After considering gemming it with 2
Bright Living Ruby
, you gain about 18 attack power and about 0.8% crit over this, at the expense of 13 intel and 8 mp5.
If you're a raiding hunter still wearing this, and have no mana issues, the S2 shoulders may be a good upgrade with a little effort in BGs.
评论来自
Allakhazam
After recieving these, I noticed my stats were much better with my Beast Lord shoulders. If you have beast lord, let em shard these. Not that great. Although they make you look mean.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Shared drop from Opera Event.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Red "Dragonstalker" Set
Helmet:
莫加尔的战盔
]Edited, Apr 25th 2007 2:22pm by OrganicGolem
评论来自
Allakhazam
As of today 20-06-07
These have been reskinned to look like the Beast Lords Shoulders. Same colour as well.
评论来自
Thottbot
The thing that shocks me is not the mp5, but the lack of sockets on such a high-end item. It seems as if this really should have sockets.
On the other hand, I don't think the lack of crit is as huge a deal as people are making it out to be. The change was clear and deliberate: crit is going away for hunters, and being replaced by raw AP increases. This is an attempt to make us less of a burst dps class, and more of a sustained dps class. I'm OK with either role, as long as it's tuned against the other classes fairly.
评论来自
Thottbot
If u dont want em u still can sell em 4 Gold 85 Silver 54 Copper to vendor. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Whats the rest of the armor that the night elf in the screenie is wearing?
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok.. for those of you who dont play a hunter, play it before talking BS.
Firstly if you are BM you will probably have less mana than a MM hunter.
If you take Mana regen gear then you are sacrificing dps across your whole raid/instance, not just bosses (unless you carry two gear sets and tell me a hunter that has space for all the gear they need). Even with Mana Regen Gear & Aspect of the Viper its not enough regeneration to stop you burning through mana in many boss fights. You will find that with raids like Karazhan which are only 10 man that you are lucky to have 2 pallies therefore most likely only have 1 blessing. BoW is usefull but BoM is better.
A quick FD & Drink (doesnt need to be back to full) will give you enough mana for burst damage when needed e.g. Evocation on Curator
It should be a rare occurance that you need to FD&drink; and only really applies to certain bosses but it does happen and is nothing to be ashamed of. You have to remember that because we are now a sustained dps class that shooting without mana is going to lose you a lot more damage than shooting with mana.
The damage lost from taking to drink will easily be recovered with the damage put out from special shots after a few seconds drinking.
评论来自
Thottbot
there are meny boss in high lvl instanc were it is useful to use FD->drink because how long you aRE DRINKING some 8 sec maybe it will be some 3 auto-shoots in exchange for multishout , aimed shoot , steady shoot ,serpent sting or arcein shoot
so WTH is your problem with FD-drink
well hunters doesnt have such a big pool of mana like mages or priests and with norm drink you can get enought mana in some 8-12 sec and how i said it is 3-5 autoshoots
so stop crying about that hunters are FD drinking in boss fights
评论来自
Thottbot
Mana regen is nice for hunters, but it isn't something to lose sleep over. We have always been a sustained dps class and always will be. Controlled dps= mana management. The high crits and massive burst dps is great when we can afford to do it. Misdirect is the most useful thing Blizz has done FOR hunters in a long time.
The shoulders are a nice sidegrade for the time being until better can be obtained in the later instances. Lastly, Imo FD/drink is a waste of a good aggro-clearing option, but some hunters still have to do it.
Good hunting and wind at your backs............
评论来自
Thottbot
lol ever hear of a enhancement shammy we desperatly need mp/5
评论来自
Thottbot
Shoulders are mediocre. Basically more allrounded stats (sta, int) in exchange for dps/crit.
On a side note, I believe FD + drink is still viable in kara, even moreso in the larger raids. While I've never done it myself but used mana pots (killed prince last week), just 10 seconds of drinking would allow me to dps for another minute, and the missed autoshots while drinking aren't much to worry about.
And the bigger the raid, the less important is your dps. Say if you have 20 dps classes that need 1 minute to kill a boss, they wouldn't need 2 minutes if you just watched the first minute and did nothing at all. Because after the minute it would normally take to get the kill, the 19 others would still continue to dps instead of saying "we've done our share, now the hunter can do the rest all by himself". So even if you did nothing for some time, it would take like 5 seconds longer ignoring the fact FD + drink would increase your dps.
And I'm raiding as BM, I don't even remember when I wasn't on top of the dmgmeter the last time, must have been months. Maybe the other DD's do some pitiful dmg (usually, you should do 2/3 to 3/4 of a true DD like rogue/mage and the pet doing the rest). What MM hunters shoot higher for, BMs shoot faster, and the pet is an additional 200 dps right there. Been MM 2 times for a day each, but found out my ranged dps didn't increase while my pet became a whimp. Would never skill anything besides 41/20/0 now.
评论来自
Thottbot
Between a hunter and enhance shaman, it should probably go to the hunter first, then shaman second. But from what i've seen, these are the best shoulders for both classes untill they get their tier set. If there are better shoulders that are not tier, can someone please post a link?
评论来自
Thottbot
These Thottbot arguements make me laugh. These shoulders are good for enhancement shaman, and hunters alike. It's all situational, especially on how your guild handles priorities, etc. This is a minor upgrade, if one at all from Beast Lord Mantle. Also, FDing and drinking is sitautional as is anything in this game. I'll do it often on Moroes. Everytime he Vanishes, I'll FD and drink some until he comes back. However on bosses like Curator where you can't afford the time to FD and drink (imho), then you'll need mp5 food, pots, and of course mana pots.
评论来自
Thottbot
Are these recolored on the PTR? The Gloves of Quickening have been as of 6/16/07.
I have a feeling they're recoloring our whole dragon look to a dark greyish purple. :(
评论来自
Thottbot
Yea, they changed the graphics to look like the Beaslord ones.
评论来自
Thottbot
WTF!
They are so #$%^ing ulgy now.
This irritates beyond so #$%^ing much.
I still have the beastlord in my backpack for instances, but now they are 100% the same.
This better be a Bug. :(
评论来自
Thottbot
The new look is Beast Lord, which is possibly the ugliest armor in the game. T4 is better but not by much. Why do they want us to look so ugly?
评论来自
Thottbot
they have changed the visuals from the dragonstalker look to the beastlord look
评论来自
Thottbot
I JUST UPGRADED FROM BEAST LORD.
i dont want them to look the same!
grrr i feel cheated on a epic
Epic level = Epic look!
评论来自
Thottbot
I am a hunter myself, and I dont understand why a person would need to FD and drink in a boss fight, and on many thats terrible and dangerous to do. Prince-you need all the dps you can and a spawn might land on you, curator-you need to be helping with adds, and shade of aran might just conjure a blizzard on you, and that means your losing the hunters dps. I find it useful, when we have 2 pallies, to get wisdom and kings, make sure I got arc int... aspect of the viiper and a mana regen on my weapon. I dont have much Mp5, but when I get that, during boss fights, I have no problem still having good dps, and having plenty of mana. Of course on really long fights, you can run out, but I always have a stock of super mana potions or magor mana potions, and I rarely run out. Thats my experiance on bosses anyways. On mobs I always just have hawk-might up on me, and in one mob I dont run out of mana, although I might get pretty close on the larger pulls.
评论来自
Thottbot
Guys, these are hunter shammy gear, I hate these ppl arguin over it. There are no class specific items, get over it. Every1 deserves a chance to roll at these that wants them. Hunters arent gonna hold rolling on them because they have stam a +mana regen. Shamans shouldnt hold on rolling because they have AP, they are a great upgrade for both. Peace out.
评论来自
Thottbot
Sigh.... Dissapointed that they changed the skin for these....
评论来自
Thottbot
all the talk of FD->drink is somewhat confusing to me... im a MM hunter (have these shoulders) and i never FD->drink, if you cant sustain high amounts of dmg while saving enough mana to be able to keep it up with potions you obviously have misunderstood your shot rotation and mana effeciency. therefore, if you FD->drink, you are not ready for raiding imo...
评论来自
Thottbot
People who say hunters shouldn't run out of mana, just because of viper, a mana oil on your weapon and a BoW are stupid. I'll use the most mana intense fight in kara as an example.
Illhoof. Hunters HAVE to put multi-shot into their shot rotation, it crits for 2.5k+ on 3 targets, and his imp needs to die asap after the chains break. Not only that, we need it for the burst damage on the demonic chains. If you can do that and not go OOM then you are a much better hunter than i am. I have almost a 9k buffed mana pool.
评论来自
Thottbot
If you are survival or MM spec you need Multi-shot in your shot rotation to sustain your dps. BM higher and more efficient dps for longer fights. Survival may come close but you may run into threat generation issues from crits. If you are MM/SV or SV/MM and havent tried BM for raiding, I encourage you to try it atleast once. MM is really bad on Mana efficiency to get the high sustained dmg. Survival is great and scales better with gear, but it requires good gear and 600 base agi(Aprox). for it to be viable for Expose Weakness to excell in dmg over the other trees. For efficient easy dps currently BM is the way to go hands down. There may be changes in 2.3 that might change that but we will have to wait and see. If you are a hunter and need to source where I got my information ref:
www.tkasomething.com
. AoTV imo is never a good idea especially if you have imp AoTH. You are cutting a percentage of your dps out of the game. I suggest replacing might for BoM,Mighty Restoration flask,blackend sporefish. All these add mp5, but that is the extreme and you can usually just trade 1-2 of those to maintain.
评论来自
Thottbot
i love all the %^&*!@#s arguing about "whose gear it is" and hunter specs, and stupid #$%^ like that. It's karazhan, even priests that run with us have things like
Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch
so stop crying and run it until everyone has everything
评论来自
Thottbot
Has the word beast in the name= made for hunters. And to the person who said that no gear is made for a specific class, you are an idiot.
评论来自
Thottbot
Could anyone possibly answer me to which is better, these lovely pauldrons or Arena S.2? In processs of getting season 2 and wondering if im wasting my time and should shoot for some other pwice of merc. glad. set in hopes of getting these, chances of getting are high due to guild that runs kara a good bit and im hunter replacement for several of my friends and their guilds.....MM/SV hunter.
评论来自
Thottbot
and we are talking about classes/builds again, isnt this site about info like how it looks and what stats it gives?
评论来自
Thottbot
Is there a full matching set of kara gear that looks like beast lord? like the dungeon set 3 for pallies, the random epics that have the same skin but aren't a set.
评论来自
Thottbot
Idk who the idiot is that said Survival is a melee spec. Are u out of ur mind? Survival is only a melee spec IF U MAKE IT OUT TO BE. If u spec surv but skip the melee stuff and just hit the ranged and trapping stuff, u could end up with about 46 or 45 points in surv that has nothing to do with melee, then toss the rest of the 15 16 points into marksman. I specced survival on my hunter to see what it was like. I liked it, wasnt bad like everyone said, i liked the amount of crit i had, but i was worried about my ap, it was like 1700 or something with my buffs. I raided a few nites later, and was 2nd on charts as dps. If u know how to play survival spec then ur gtg, but if ur saying that survival sucks just because it has SOME melee things in its tree, then u need to either 1.) Try survival before u bust on it, and i mean TRY it, put points only into the ranged crap, then talk, or 2.) Reroll a diff class cause u have no clue wat ur talkin about wen u say Survival sucks.
评论来自
Thottbot
for the %^& that posted wearing nax gear is a indication you dont know how to play, you have obviously never went to naxxaramas and seen how much discipline and skill it takes to do it properly.
Nax gear > SL / MT / SV gear
kara gear > Nax gear.
What a shame.
in terms of difficulty
nax > Kara.
hell,
VC with party of lvl 18 - 20's > kara.
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