Great rogue throwing weapon. Very nice for pulling in solo PvE, very quick speed. The stamina and AP are a nice side for more survivability and more melee damage, which we all know rogues low. Decent deadly throw damage. Very nice weapon indeed.
This is horrible for a gruul drop. It doesnt even come close to felsteel whisper knives for pve. It has its uses in pvp, but since when did a guild that downs gruul care about pvp.
This is tied with Consecrated Wand for fastest weapon in the game.
Terrible throwing weapon. Stats are subpar for both pve and pvp for rogues (compared to Felsteel Whisper Knives for pve and Gladiator's throwing weapon for pvp)
If a warrior really wanted it, they could just get netherstrike (15? crit rating instead of the attack power) and shard this for guild enchants.
As with instant melee attacks regarding weapon speed, would the low wep speed factor into how much damage Deadly Throw yields? And DT also factor in the tiny bit of lag time it takes before you actually throw the weapon?
Why was this item neglected for the 2.1 epic item buffs? All non-teirset epics from Gruul were supposed to be buffed to item level 125.
As it stands, Shuriken of Negation is still item level 100. Xavian Stilletto from Terestian Illhoof got buffed to item level 115.... should a Karazhan item really be higher item level than Gruul loot?
Seriously, any blue throwing weapon is better than this, and easier to obtain.
A nice trow it has fast cast time and give good stats for an rouge,drops from gruul the dragonkiller
EU PTR Post by Tootamia confirms that the iLevel issue will be corrected. Funny how I posted about it on 4 different threads on the US forums, and got no response.
nice for deadly thrown...
From known-issues blue post:
- The item level for Shuriken of Negation is not consistent with the other items from Gruul.
2.2 PTR Stats are
Shuriken of Negation
Binds when picked up
79 - 120 Damage Speed 1.20
(82.9 damage per second)
Durability 285 / 285
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases attack power by 42.
Awesome I wish they added more Shuriken epics ( I like them better then throwing axes
definitely the best ranged weapon a fury warrior can get pre vashj. The shuriken has the highest AP of any thrown or ranged weapon, though good alternatives come from Prince or Big Bad Wolf in Kara. And don't for get Arena throwing axe as a great alternative.
The raiding fury warrior prioritizes AP first, crit second, and hit last. However, once you start getting into Hyjal and BT, AP and Crit are equally important with hit always last in priority. So once you get Vashj down, definably get her Bow which comes with both high crit and AP.
would perfer this:
over this item... even, as stated above, fel steel whisper knives are better imo..
Holy crap, a Shuriken that actually looks like one!
Both this and Consecrated Wand* have a 1.20 attack speed, the fastest in the game.
Why I switched from Crossbows, Bows and Guns to Throwing.
1) Casting time:
"Shoot" (Bows, Crossbows, Guns)
1.5 Second Casting time
1.4 Second Cooldown
"Throw" (Throwing Axes, Knives,...)
0.5 Second Casting time
1.4 Second Cooldown
To me the casting time is what's important, the cooldown/reload time is almost meaningless in most PvP situations where there's really only 1 shot. A normal shoot will take a 3x as long for the first shot - it's really a question if the player will run out of range, or back in so it'll be too close to shoot. Either way, you won't get a shot and the player you should've killed is still alive.
Standing there for 1.5 seconds doesn't seem a lot, but in the heat of a fight it's a very long time. Waiting and standing still in the open leaves yourself open for an attack.
2) A unique skill uses them:
Deadly Throw. A ranged, finishing move. The only ranged finishing move we have. Heck it's the only ranged attack that's not considered "General".
3) It Doesn't take up a couple bag spaces for arrows/bullets.
4) Replenishes durability by repairing
5) They have stats now.
6) They look cool when thrown. I have a Needle Strike, it looks like a metalic, blue glowing blip. Better then the ice arrows since I'm guessing all of the thrown look differnt.
Edited, Feb 10th 2007 3:18am by gotcow
As far as a Rogue weapon goes this is pretty lackluster especially since its not getting a much needed boost in stats during the patch. Sunfury Bow of the Phoenix will sport 19agility and 34ap making it a far more attractive choice as a mainstay range weapon whereas the shuriken might get some use soloing or PvPing to utilize deadly throw and the sta boost.
finally rogues stay away from my bows/guns/xbows xD now, give the warriors something else too.. *greedy face* xD
All we need now are some nice kodachi, and we can have some sexy ninjas running around!
This seems like throwing weapons are making a come back.
79 - 120伤害
耐久: 285 / 285
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