I've had the full set for 2 weeks now, and loving every part of it. I currently have 2434 AP when my gun procs (don santos' hunting rifle) and can't complain about my crit which is 23%. This set is awesome (lacks hit rating but that is easily made up with other items ex. sonic spear).
Great set, lots of sockets for jagged talasite/smooth dawnstones =) (6 gem slots of the overall set pieces gives me +12 stam and +40 crit ).
If you want pure damage, you're better off ignoring the socket colors and sticking with, say, three red +16 Attack Power gems (Bright Living Ruby). Even using the highest crit gems (+8; blue) will not surpass the overall gain in DPS at 2500 ranged attack power.
im the one in the screenshots, i sit right around 2150 RAP self buffed(tsa/AotH), have been as high as 2600 RAP during Kara. like the guy above said, you're usually better off just ignoring the socket bonus and sticking in Bright Living Ruby's
I've done the math on my hunter and the crit gems are better than the agi or ap gems imo if youre going for crit chance, which i am. also the +20 hit rating bonus makes up for the lack of agi in the set. 1 agi point adds about .025 crit for me where as hit rating adds .046 crit. I dont have the numbers in front of me but the crit gem that fits yellow and blue is much better than the red and blue agi gem if youre going for crit chance.
Its constantly that issue about ap vs. crit.
Choose the one you like and stick with proper gems for that purpose. I went with ap gems as I intend to raid much. High burst damage is a lot more suitible for PvP imo.
The full Ebon Netherscale set requires:
18x Heavy Knothide Leather
72x Nether Dragonscales
36x Primal Fire
36x Primal Shadow
3x Primal Nether
good set has intel stam nd sockets, but lack agl, im not shoure if im right or not but i dont think crit chance adds to DPS and i know that agility does, if it does than this is a sick set, dont have it yet but i can make it, just waitin til 70
Nope ... right now this chest is good but Merciles chest is a bit better except for Raids since it doesn't have the mana regen of this one
However Ranger-General's Chestguard
Is way better
Comapred to this one stacked with a similar pattern (Shiftings, Delicates, Smooth stones)
Ranger's general has
+11 crit rating
-8 mana regen/p5
Is it possible to craft both Netherstrike set and Ebon Netherscale set, without having to go through a specialization change of some sort?
Ive just started with a shammmy im planning to have as main - And im leveling LW/skinning to get this set as soon as i ding 70.
Got 70warr and 70Spriest so im not new to the game.
What i dont understand is why ure socketing with AP and not STR?
Dosnt shammy get 2AP per str as warr and block value?
/ newbie @ shammy stats
I socketed the BP with 3 +8 Str gems
The bracers I put the +4 crit +4 str gem in as it equates to more the socket bonus more than makes up for the slight ApEP loss from Str to Crit.
The also gemmed for the socket bonus, although its a much closer thing there, having to use a blue gem. I went with the crit/Str for yellow, and str/Stam for the blue.
Personally I like keeping my crit over 25% The change to mental quickness will probably requires some new theorycrafting to reweight the value of Str/ap to Agi/crit, but i dont see it changing that much, as shocks are usually under 10% of my damage.
do yo need skill 375 to use it? or just to craft it?
How does this compare to the , which is now about to be purchasable by honor?
Socket Bonus: +4 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 140 / 140
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 28.
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 26.
Equip: Restores 8 mana per 5 sec.
thinking of grinding the season 1 PVP gear to start my PVE in (enhancement shaman is my alt - I raid on a mage). I dont have time to run tons of instances, I figured mixing the PVP gear with crafted epics would be more than enough to start.
Well, assuming that you socket Gladiator's Linked Armor with 2x
Bold Living Ruby
Inscribed Noble Topaz
you've got a grand total of 49 Strength on that sucker for a total 98 AP;
Now consider Ebon Netherscale with 3x Bold Living Ruby for a grand total of 24 Strength or 48 AP. Add the 80 AP already on Ebon netherscale for a total of 128 AP. Now, Ebon Netherscale BP already has 31 crit rating, which is 5 less than the socketed Gladiator's Linked Armor.
IMO Ebon Netherscale BP > Gladiator's Linked Armor
PS. Take the math with a grain of salt, I flunked out of calculus last year.
I find this this set lacks agility badly. Which is awful for a survival hunter.
What about Primastrike set (
I'm just trying to estimate what is better for hunter from these two sets. It looks like even with loosing some int and MP5, Primalstrike is still better since it has alot of AGI and AP, giving "flat" AP almost as twice as Netherscale set (that counts for Markman hunts) and also way better for Surv hunter, since Netherscale simply sucks for that build
nice for PvE hunter and enhanc shaman
The Combined Ebon Netherscale Set provides:
70 Crit Rating
166 Attack Power
3 Blue Sockets
3 Yellow Sockets
(+9 Agility socket bonus)
+20 Hit rating Set Bonus
From a hunter's perspective, its a shame the set is so low on agility. But the gem slots are nice.
The netherstrike set is for elemental shaman... not enhancement.
how does this compare to other bp's such as the thick netherscale bp for dps, then the gladiators chest for pvp?
so i spent the last two months farming. first the last 23 points in LW i needed and then the mats for this set. the main motivation was to upgrade for the sake of continuity from the three blue felstalker pieces you get in honour hold to something roughly equivalent (20 to hit bonus that is) in purple. also there was the urge to kill some time and a hope (in vain) for purple random drops to cross-finance the enchantments needed. all in all it seemed a good idea as it would neither rely on a vast DKP pool nor my piss-poor qualities in terms of PVP.
well, i ended up spending sh*tloads of money to earn a significant raise in stamina, armor (who needs this anyway as a hunter?), roughly 1.5%+ crit and some actually pretty nice looking gear. on the downside i lost 200 mana, 34 agi and 6 dps compared to the felstalker, leading to an overall personal rating of "this blows!" for this set here. i must say i was not very surprised, i just hoped that my pre-farming and thoroughly calculated comparision of both sets would have been as horrible as my approach to mathematics usually is. was. whatever.
and yes, the gems used were relatively the same, only that i used mainly the 16 AP gems on the felstalker set as it brought a lot of agility along already by itself and +8 agi gems on the netherscale to intercept the dramatic decrease in this stat on blue vs. purple at least to some extend. lesson learned: beer.
Edited, Nov 1st 2007 8:42pm by mourningwood
Edited, Nov 1st 2007 8:43pm by mourningwood
Crafted this on Suramar, 04/09/07
Haven't seen anyone else with it yet, but so far, its looking like quite a promising piece.
Currently have it stocked with:
2x Shifting Nightseye (+4 agi/+6 stam)
1x Smooth Dawnstone (+8 crit)
And topped off with a +6 stats.
Won't be replacing this for a long time.
Learned from the Dragonscale leatherworker trainer, no reputation needed it looks like. Same with all the other BoP epic LW sets im assuming.
does anyone know where the dragonscale trainer is located? need to find him quickly and start farming...
Horde Dragonscale Leatherworking trainer is 62,57 in Badlands.
First off, you DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT have to get the socket set bonus. I threw in +16 ap gems in all 3 slots. I could care less about stam. This will beat the crap dps wise out of the thick bp.
Ebon Netherscale Belt
6 heavy knothide leather
24 nether dragonscales
12 primal fire
12 primal shadow
1 primal nether
Ebon Netherscale Bracers
4 heavy knothide leather
18 nether dragonscales
8 primal fire
8 primal shadow
Ebon Netherscale Chest
8 heavy knothide leather
30 nether dragonscales
16 primal fire
16 primal shadow
2 primal nether
18 heavy knothide leather
72 nether dragonscales
36 primal fire
36 primal shadow
3 primal nether
Not only do you need them for the socket bonus, but if you plan on using a swift skyfire diamond in your helm's meta slot you will need to put in a few yellows somewhere. Just run a few heroics and get some epic orange gems. Then again for some people that may be easier said than done.
im on frostmore and personally farming primal nether sucks takes 2hrs 2 find a gud grp then whole grp need primal nether...pft damm them
i have hit i bump in the road that is LW i can't find anything thats easy to make and does not need much work?
Nether Dragonscale can be farmed even if you have completed the Netharaku quest chain that starts your Netherdrake mount chain. You simply have to put them rep wise on "At War". I did that so that I could finish Veraku quest in Netherstorm. Because if you don't you cannot attack Veraku, and he'll surely kill you without that set to "At War". I'm a hunter and I was able to feign, and then realized what I had to do. Farm what you need for your gear while doing that quest, if you saved it like me, then change it back and as long as you are Neutral it should not affect your rep toward them so that when time comes to do the 300 level mount stuff for your Drake you won't be saying "what the heck did I do". Nuf Said, Good Luck and Happy Hunting!
ye i wondering would it be worth getting 375 Leather working on a 70 Raiding Hunter jut to get the chest bracers?
ebon is a bop item from dragonscale leather working that means you have to be a dragon.l.w. to get it but for some one like me that is a blacksmither is it worth the change? why not just take thick netherscale chest? how better is ebon? and for the other slots of ebon that is waist and wrist why shouldn't i take the felstalker's?
P.S: i am a hunter from genjuros server lvl 70
If your already BS, just make nether chain shirt. it has roughly the same stats, same number of sockets, and requires the same level of mats. in fact, i was considering switching from ds lw to bs just for that item, but that would be an exspensive switch to get that high for 1 item.
omg love this chest if you get Thick Netherscale over it then you need to reroll a merchant so i can rip good deals off you
How much does it cost train each of the Ebon Netherscale items?
These mats make me want to puke... Being a hunter and pwing farming aside.... I just don't have the commitment lol
my main is a draenei JC so i cant look at any armor with sockets and not think about the color scheme. what most of you seem to think is that you can just put any gem in any socket and get away with it. yea that works with green and blue items but if you have epic gear, like say t4 helm perhaps, your probably gonna put that meta socket to use which means you cant fill your armor with +8 agility and still have any hope of getting a meta gem in. because of that fact the math some of you has displayed will turn out innacurate. The best you can do is find out what meta your going to be using once you have a meta socket and work out what gems you can use to meet the color requirments, like shifting nightseye or infused nightseye to increase your blue count instead of using delicate living rubies. or putting in smooth dawnstones for yellow sockets then youll know what the actual socket potential of your armor is
The Alliance Dragonscale leatherworker trainer is at 37 65 in azshara
I have just made this on my hunter and i was wondering what would be the best enchant to put on it. i am planning on having this be my raid chest because of the high AP and MP5. I am thinking of getting 6 stats but i am unsure if i should be getting something else instead
im 370 lw atm need 5 more to gain the skills to make it.
im gonna put 3 x 20ap in it so it will have like : 140 ap or and thats perfect
I started the grind for the mats 2 days ago... This is going to take a while. I have a alchemist who is hooking me up with xmutes so i can get some "more attainable" primals and he is makeing them into fire and shadow for me.
Also this chest piece is awesome. I love the intel and MP5. Also the socket options are great.
插槽加成: +4 敏捷
耐久: 140 / 140
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