This has a 15% chance to proc off of spells.
Not sure if this is only spells with cast times or seals/judgments as well.
Tested on PTR 2.1 aswell. I did 10 "sets" of 100 flash heals in a row (full buffed with intelect, spirit, BoK, BoW, MOTW) and proc rate is around 7-8% from what I saw. Sometimes the proc rate was 5% ... (true, 2 times I had 10% and 12%)
What I can say ... nice trinket, but the 15% proc rate is not the true one.
When I tested this on the PTRs it procced off of literally any spell. Summon warhorse, find herbs, enchanting, sense undead etc.
Definately my casts sucks then...
The "Blessing of Righteousness" proc from this trinket lasts 15 seconds and seems to stack with all +damage trinket effects.
) The spell shows a 15% chance to proc, but I have found this to be inaccurate.
On the PTR, the proc rate seems to be between 5%-10% according to the numbers captured by ProcTracker and my calculations (number of procs / by total number of casts * 100 = proc chance... rounded to the nearest hundredth of course)
I ran several raids and did several battleground matches and the proc rate I got from it (I only had it monitor my heal casts and holy shock) were as follows:
Day 1: 4 hours 12 minutes of gameplay, 312 casts/21 procs = 6.73% chance to proc
Day 2: 2 hours 20 minutes of gameplay, 114 casts/11 procs = 9.65% chance to proc
Day 3: 5 hours 1 minute of gameplay, 310 casts/22 procs = 7.10% chance to proc
Day 4: 4 hours 52 minutes of gameplay, 555 casts/36 procs = 6.49% chance to proc
Kinda disappointing, however it may be bugged on the Public Test Realm.
Note: This trinket DOES proc on blessings and judgements, however I have not had it proc when casting a seal yet. Also I confirm that this procs off both summon warhorse and find herbs.
I just got this item tonight on our server first Al'ar kill (<The Core> Tichondrius). None of our paladins were crazy about getting it so we decided to all /random 100 for it. I must say that it feels like it procs all the time; even more often than spellsurge which after extensive testing is procing roughly 17 times in an average boss fight. In the future this is going to be much more sought after by the rest of the paladins in my guild, that's for sure.
I thought i saw it refresh it's duration once but i may be crazy on that, so i'm trying to keep a close eye to see if there is a hidden cooldown or not.
Just doing the math on this, if you assume it will always be up after the hidden cooldown, that means it will be up roughly 15 seconds of every 45 seconds, or 1/3 of the time. Since the bonus it provides is 290...
290 / 3 = 97 +healing average over a long boss fight.
Considering this has no other bonuses attached to it and no use function, this trinket is not very good compared to:
Ribbon of Sacrifice,
Pendant of the Violet Eye,
Eye of Gruul,
I am personally using Ribbon and Pendant while raiding and finding them both pretty useful. I would replace Pendant with Eye if it ever drops, but I wouldnt replace any of them with this trinket.
They all give a constant amount of healing nearly equal to the average amount of healing granted by this trinket and/or have a nice and useful effect on them. I would pick this up, just in case it gets buffed at some point but it will likely sit in my bank.
Dropped on my first visit to Al’ar and I won it with minimium DKP. I think it’s a sick trinket for Shockadins. It procs off virtually everything you cast (i.e. seals, HoJ, consecration, judgements etc). What I really loved about this thing is that it does NOT share cooldown with other similar spell dps trinkets like Xiri’s Gift so you can wait for it to proc off and then activate the other trinket for a whooping +440 (150 +290) spell damage increase!
Also note that this is an excellent trinket for a protection paladin in a threat set.
Yeah I was about to say this is PERFECT for a Protection Paladin, and pretty decent for a Holy Paladin. Retribution doesn't scale as well as it needs to with +damage/healing compared to straight melee stats. It never has, and those who believe so are simply delusional. Melee stats first, always.
However, Protection Paladins as is cover themselves with Affliction Warlock-esque gear. Spell hit and spell damage like mad. This trinket would basically be the equivalent to the Sextant of Unstable Currents. While the Sextant requires a spell crit and offers only 190 damage/healing on proc, this Tome offers 290 and doesn't require a spell crit, yet still has a solid 15% chance proc chance (the Sextant is 20% of your crit chance).
A Holy Paladin MIGHT like the Sextant of Unstable Currents better, since it also boosts their +spell crit rating by 40 and they'll be critting like crazy anyway, but seeing as many offensive casters will die for that trinket this Tome might be the next best option, and really is not that bad either.
A Protection Paladin would orgasm over this, on the other hand.
I have this trinket and as a raiding paladin this trinket is extremely good. It procs all the time and during those times when you are low on mana and forced to cash Flash of Light while waiting on a mana pot cooldown it is very helpful in making the smaller heals you are forced to cast heal for more. Everyone has their own opinion about this item but I will definitely not be replacing this anytime soon. I am currently using it alongside the Eye of Gruul which only has a 2% proc rate but in those really long fights aka Kael every bit of mana conservation/regen you can get is helpful.
A few things
Right now I use this and the trinket that drops off of shade of Aran (
), and I have the Fel Reaver's Piston (
) off of Void Reaver, but it normally just sits in my bag. From my experience, a fully raid buffed paladin (with a flask of mighty restoration) and assuming you have a shadow priest in your group, the bonus healing is more worth it than the 16 MP5 the FRP gives you. I almost never go under 50% mana in Hyjal and Black Temple fully raid buffed, and even then, pop a mana pot and your all set. Without a shadow priest, I do think the Fel Reavers Piston is better for boss fights (especially as they tend to get longer and more healing intensive the farther you get in the game).
Hmmm, I'm really confused as to why anyone would want this trinket. So you basically get 1 proc per min of 290 spell damage, and that's it. It doesn't even have an equipped stat bonus. This is just as much a waste of time as the Libram that drops @ Lurker Below
I have been using a combination of Xiri's Gift and Essence of the Martyr for quite a while now and i'm not prepared to waste my dkp on this. I will spend 1 dkp on it then shard hehe
Both my trinks have 2 min cooldown which means I get 1 proc per min with both (15sec and 20sec duration respectively) and this I can set off when I want plus I get the constant +32 crit and +84 heal.
Caelith425 : I've never had or wanted the Eye of Gruul trinket, does that 2% proc that much?. Why not get a trinket i.e. Essence of Martyr which has better + heal or even the +crit one, both have better proc bonus and then wait for cooldowns of your DI and DF which probably occur at the same time or before the Eye of Gruul procs..
Crit is afterall the best way a paladin regens mana. This is just my opinion ofc :D
Looks very good for prot paladins.
A high proc chance with a 45 second cooldown means you get burst aggro at the start of every pull, exactly when you need it.
The ret and holy pallies are all completely correct here - this sucks for them. This is an example of the Tier 5 penchant for gearing up tankadins for use in Morogrim/Solarian and, above all, Mount Hyjall, where a Pally tank is so good it's a must. Peek at the following SSC/TK drops, of which I've likely missed several.
That said, I don't think this is by any means the best Tankadin trinket. You absolutely MUST be uncrushable before using this to gain the fairly noticeable threat gain that this will pose...With the proper itemization, though, this will really make those consecrates sing.
There's no other trinket that gives you this much spell damage in the game that is "ok" for a paladin to have. If you reached all your caps with an extra trinket spot to spare, go with this.
Exactly. It's an AoE tanking trinket to boost the threat of your consecrates by 290*1.9/8 (551/8) = 69 TPS while it's up. Not too shabby at all.
For ret, you need AP/crit. For holy you need healing (or for shockadin spell dmg). Prot trinket!
This item is godly on MH trash for pally tanks. It may not have any tanking stats but it's like a free AW every time it procs. Especially if you're starting to get too geared for your current raid content, this can be a great way to get burst threat without re-gearing your stuff.
"Each time you cast there is chance"
I love Blizzard and their typos. I wonder how long it's been ingame like that.
Drops from first boss in The Eye his name is Al'ar
I think it is from Sep Caverns.. Not sure tho
% = about 15~30%
when change aura, seals, judgement, summon riding, healling...etc.
Edited, Jul 28th 2007 1:20am by dxivnd
Edited, Jul 28th 2007 1:21am by dxivnd
Anyone know how long the proc lasts if any length? Or is it applied to your next spell, or what?
I want it!
Drops from Al'ar the Phoenix God in TK: The Eye.
Procrate is a rough 7-8% for those interested.
It does however proc off pretty much every spell, i.e. blessings, auras, whatsoever.
Edited, May 8th 2007 5:04pm by Mennotijms
I have tried the following spells over 100 times to get the item to proc:
Duration 15 seconds
estimated proc rate 10-15%
hidden cooldown of 30-45 secs
flash of light
Prepping a seal
judging a seal
It does NOT proc on:
Its great for running heroics as prot, procs everytime you pull a group and gives you about 300 extra threat per sec on a single mob. enough to keep enough agro for the rest of the fight.
On bosses its great too, proccing several times per fight.
Im going to try this offtanking gruul, should help agro a lot.
Edited, Dec 20th 2007 2:01pm by sju
Maybe they're giving palys this in compensation for nerfing Illumination in the next patch? Regardless, this is still a nice item!
what's the duration of the bonus? Can it stack? This has the potential to be a really good item.
OMG hunter item.
seriously though. In case people are wondering, this drops off of Al'ar in The Eye. Also, it will be 290 damage/healing after the patch.
Wow....the &*!@#$s are out in full force tonight.....
Learn to bloody well read the item description...."classes: Paladin"....no mage/warlock/anyone else will ever be able to use it.
May 'win' the roll if the raid is full of illiterate ebay toons like you, but they then get the big reward of the vender price, because, again, THEY CANNOT USE IT.
Dropps from Al'ar the Phoenix God
lol you really are a dumbass... its called
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its sweet... so whenever a PALADIN (for all those noobs who thinks its a mage or lock trinkit) heals in a raid or arena, constantly it will help a lot with 260 more healing with any random flash of light... for me that would be like 1600 for one flash only costing 180 mana =D
it lasts 15 seconds
I use this while tanking. 15% proc rate sounds about right; not sure what the "hidden cooldown" is, but it feels like 45 seconds (fastest back-to-back proc was 50 seconds). 1 proc on trash, 2 or more on boss fights. The "effect" is about a +50% increase in threat for the duration (15 seconds).
Almost guaranteed to proc while pulling: avenger's shield, holy shield, seal, judge, reseal, consecrate, etc, whatever sequence you use. Really helps when initial threat is important.
Like spellsurge, this will proc on anything spell related. Changing auras will proc this ability :3
:edit: hidden cooldown seems to be 45 seconds, after some testing
Remove the hidden cooldown and it will be a good item...
Suxs for healing atm.I wasted my dkp becous i was to lazy to read the comments, saw a *15%* chance to proc and i went for it.
On fights like solarian wher i spam Fol like mad, proc should be up for around 90% of the time but the 45sec cooldown basicly kills the item.... better to take some normal +healing trinket or +mp5/%crit with use ability every 2mins
But its still a decent toy for ae farming
So is it 30sec hidden CD or 45secs? This is need to know information.
I must have missed something, how long is this buff last?
I honestly still like the darkmoon card: blue dragon. Even though paladins don't use spirit or spam while no casting. I find it prots more often than 2%. which is about 1:50 FoL. In a long boss fight where +healing isn't a huge issue, I can get it to crit 5-6 times. Gaining about 700+ mana when fully raid buffed. 700 mana 5-6 times in a boss fight from 1 trinket is worth it for me. Then whatever other trinket you want to use. I would use this with or replace with Fel Reaver's Piston. Haven't decided. I'll need to do the math.
It stikes me that this is an ideal grinding/farming trinket for holy paladins?
I have read all the comment but no one mentioned does it stack or not ?
This isnt a healing trinket. yes it could be decent for healing.... however it isa tanking trinket for pallys.
a prot pally will cast a spell every 2 seconds.... the 290 bonus damage comes out to a $%^&*!ed ammount of threat.
there is more than one spec for pallys. pay attention.
also farming with this is amazing... pulls of 30 mobs wont even drop ur mana below 70% or helath below 90
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