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arco
All of the "Merciless Gladiator's" gear is part of the Season 2 Arena rewards that were added on June 19th, 2007, along with the "Veteran's" gear that was added to the BG honor rewards.
Stats on armor, stats on weapons, and damage on weapons were upgraded slightly across the board, and arena points cost for these new items was raised slightly as well.
Compare this to the Season 1 reward, Gladiator's Shanker:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28312
评论来自
5661
Differences between Season 1 and 2 are as follows:
+6.4 DPS
+9 Lowend damage
+14 Topend Damage
+6 Stamina
+1 Hit Rating
+4 Crit Rating
+2 Resilience rating
+2 Attack Power
评论来自
kazgalor
would 2x of these not be much better for mutilate than this + the offhand? i mean i know for a fact that it would be, my question is, why don't more rogues use 2x of these?
评论来自
Calous
The Size of the Merciless, and Regular Gladiator's shivs and shankers have been reduced as of patch 2.2
评论来自
63070
How much honor will these be once S4 comes out?
评论来自
159356
If you're like me, you're an under geared rogue. With S4 coming out some time in the forseeable future, I'll be looking to use some spare honor points to upgrade my PvE DPS. Now, assuming
NO
heroic gear, the order you should be looking at to upgrade are:
Merciless Gladiator's Shiv
I use mutilate, so of course I'm gonna get the daggers. Just substitute whatever weapon spec you use instead :) Remember, weapon boosts are generally the largest DPS increase for physical DPS classes, so nabbing the S2 weapons should be priority number 1.
Next are the armor upgrades:
Merciless Gladiator's Leather Spaulders
Merciless Gladiator's Leather Tunic
Merciless Gladiator's Leather Helm
Keep in mind that the real draw here is the shoulders. They provide a ~3 DPS increase over
Expedition Scout's Epaulets
with 2 +8 Hit gems. The helm and chest are more DPS sidegrades against the average rogue gear
Helm of the Claw
and
Hauberk of Karabor
, respectively. Both the HoC and HoK are relatively easy to get for beginning 70 rogues, but if you're having trouble finding groups for them, the gladiator gear will more than cover it.
Fel Leather Leggings
or
Leggings of the Betrayed
are better than the S2 legs, as are
Fel Leather Gloves
better than the S2 hands. You're better off saving those honor points for the +20 AP gem.
Again, keep in mind that this is only for the starter rogue and only for
PvP'ing for PvE upgrades
. If you're looking to get a foothold when starting an arena team, by all means get all the gear and wreck some faces :)
EDIT: I forgot to mention the ranged weapon:
Merciless Gladiator's War Edge
. This is ~.2 DPS upgrade over
Felsteel Whisper Knives
. Keep in mind though that the War Edge is the lowest DPS upgrade out of all the viable PvP options, so you should leave that one for last.
评论来自
168818
As of Season 4, this now costs 18,000 Honor and 20 EotS Marks and is bought from Captain O'Neal in the Champion's Hall for Alliance and Sergeant Thunderhorn in the Hall of Legends for the Horde.
评论来自
Allakhazam
You can check to see how many points you'll get towards this dagger at the
arena calculator
.
评论来自
Allakhazam
where is the vendor for it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
and not impossible to get
Edited, Jun 20th 2007 1:45pm by chipstack
评论来自
Allakhazam
you need only 2625 points to purchase it
评论来自
Allakhazam
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评论来自
Allakhazam
so where do ya do the battles or what ever ya need to do ? to get the points and do ya need badges ? where do ya get them from thanx heaps :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Would it take to get this item for the ave/casual player? Would it take weeks or months? I am not playing like I used to but will pick it back up when the next patch drops. but I would really like to get this and her friend now that I am pvp'ing more. Any help?
评论来自
Thottbot
ya there is they have 100DPS on theres and weps just as slow go check again
评论来自
Thottbot
just wondering what kind of shadowstep + ambushes ppl have been seeing with this?
I am currently using Blinkstrike and Gladiator's Shiv (and sometimes respec with Whispering Blade of Slaying in MH for Ambush)
评论来自
Thottbot
But the thing is mongoose procs all the time so u get the bonus agi mostly 24/7 :P
评论来自
Thottbot
Yeah, Mongoose seems to proc a ton. It's like crusader pre tbc.
Once I get an OH that's worth the enchant, I'm slapping a second Mongoose on it as fast as I possibly can.
About 440g of mats (on my server atm) and I can't wait.
120 agility is about 8.6 dps (assuming that it's still 14 AP = 1 DPS, please correct me if I'm wrong.) On a weapon with speed 1.8, that equates to an additional 15.4 damage.
If you can get dual mongoose and keep it up about 50 - 70% of the time (I feel like that's doable) it's freaking amazing (because it adds more damage to your OH assuming your OH is faster than MH.)
Plus the crit, plus the dodge (meh for dodge).
Mongoose worth it.
评论来自
Thottbot
What would i crit with both of these daggs if did backstab (combat dagg spec) with 1.2k ap?
Also, whats best dagg spec for arenas/pvp? shadowstep?
评论来自
Thottbot
best dagger my rogue can get, better than all the kara daggers and won't be replaced until SSC mongoose is really worth it for that dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
Honestly..... Is it that worth it to wait that long to get it for by the time you get it.. Season 3 could possibly be out
评论来自
Thottbot
Just got mine on Tuesday and put mongoose on it right away.
Definitely a step up in burst damage, and also very noticable increase in DPS over time. Was using Whispering Blade of Slaying in MH for quite some time.
Joedurt / 70 Rogue / Blackrock
Built Horde Tough
评论来自
Thottbot
hey, i was wondering, if you got for example 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 and they all have like, 1500 rating, do you get 300 ish points from each team (so around 900 points per week assuming you play a bunch of games in each team)?
评论来自
Thottbot
about the talents you shall use for this dagger I recomend:
30/0/31
Which gives you Premedidation (add 2 combo points). Use Premedidation and Ambush a caster for lots of dmg. With this specc you will be gained 3 combos from Ambush and 2 from Premedidation which gives you a total of 5 combo points. Use Cold Blood and Eviscerate and your target is badly hurt. This will take like 1 sec for all that damage to hit.
Shadowstep also works good, but since you got all CDs ready for an Arena 30/0/31 would give more damage imo.
Hope this will help your team =)
评论来自
Thottbot
You can dw this with the ordinary shanker if your muti spec'd... I think mongoose procs on mutilate with your off hand as well. Gives a very good pre-raid dagger combination
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Thottbot
where is the vendor for it?
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