评论来自 Basik

Im guessing you cannot throw them while moving?

评论来自 45694

They are "grenades" so I suppose you CAN throw them while moving. Like all the other grenades until today. If they were bombs you couldn't. At least I think so...

评论来自 Paps

I can see these becoming extremely annoying when fighting a frost-mage engineer. It will give them a 3rd frost nova (assuming they have water elemental).

评论来自 29130

The full Materials for 10 ( 2x5 ) frost grenades are :

4 Fel Iron bars
1 Primal water
2 Netherwaeve Cloth
2 Elemental blasting powder ( 4 Powders = 2 motes of fire, 4 motes of earth)

评论来自 44554

double the radius (6yds) than normal grens plus you do not need to care about dots, i would say this is quite good against melee for any class to use (or good for melees to use against runners)

评论来自 31280

its good for all classes really who are in a spot like being attacked buy 3 or 4 people at once on battle grounds i find these even more so usefull in wsg and ab ect

评论来自 65819

Unless you're a mage, you're better off using adamantite grenades.

评论来自 33682

On the 2.2 PTR the recipe for icy blasting primers takes 1 primal water, 2 cloth, and 2 elemental powder and makes TEN blasting primers. Again each blasting primer goes to make five bombs, so one primal water gives you 50 bombs. This change makes these bombs much more affordable and viable.

评论来自 79762

uhhh, where do i learn how to make this? and what level of engineering do i need?
-the bottom third of the word bird

评论来自 24919

AMAZING item for frost mages if you have Shatter, saves lives for sure.

评论来自 69372

As of patch 2.2, you can now make 50 of these from a single Primal Water.. assuming you have the appropriate amounts of the other materials. Reduces the cost of these significantly, though.

Have fun <3

评论来自 4375

Any word on when this recipe goes grey?

评论来自 Rylon

10 Icy Blasting Primers = 10 Motes Of Water, 1 Mote Of Fire, 2 Motes Of Earth, 2 Netherweave Cloth

10 Icy Blasting Primers + 10 Fel Iron Casing + 10 Handful of Fel Iron Bolts " Thats 80 Fel Iron Ore in total" = 50 Frost Grenades.

Motes:
Fire Motes = https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22574
water Motes = https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22578
Earh Motes = https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22573

Fel Iron:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/object=181555

Netherweave Cloth:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=21877

its a wicked pvp item, mats are easy to get aswell.

评论来自 95623

The best grenade for kiting people, compared to Adamantite Grenade ( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=30217 ), the root does not break on any damage. Also, very useful to use these to level up, not the cheapest mats, but they are very useful.

Very good pvp item for warlocks.

评论来自 78426

For anyone looking to use these to help level engineering, they go green at 355.

评论来自 37999

It doesn't say where you learn the recipe on WoWhead, but you can learn it from any master engineering trainer.

评论来自 TranquilRage

Sadly you cant use these in the Arena

评论来自 149727

Even as a frost mage, if you are fighting say a rogue and he pops CLoS to get out of your frost nova, are you better off using Adamantite Grenades instead? I'm assuming the CLoS effect has a 90% chance to resist the Frost Grenade effect as well, but probably wouldn't work against stuns.

评论来自 160838

Its something that should be tested really. Not all elemental damage counts as a spell. For example Judgement of Blood deals holy damage, piercing armour. But doesnt seem to count as a spell in such a sense that Cloak of Shadows does nothing to stop it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

No range given on the tooltip. Played around with stuff, I know it's more than 5 yards, but it doesn't look like a lot more than 5 yards. Somewhere around 6-8 yard radius?

评论来自 Thottbot

Nice, easy craftable grenades that freeze targets in place. Like mages.
Primal water makes 2 icy blow primers which make 5 frost grenades each, so Primal Water is 10 grenades, every mote of water you collect is like 1 grenade.

评论来自 Thottbot

can cast while running, going to be great for my frost mage.

chain frost nova, pet freeze, throw frost bomb :)

评论来自 Thottbot

Where do you get the recipe?

评论来自 Thottbot

Does anybody know if this stacks with the Mage talent "Shatter" (spells have 50% increased crit chance against frozen targets.

If so this would be amazing for frost mages because they would no longer need to wait on their frost nova cooldown for that sexy talent to take effect.

评论来自 Thottbot

who cares about the damage they do.. its 125 only anyway - "freezes them in place for up to 5 sec", now that's music.

评论来自 Thottbot

so, frost nova grenade + seed of corruption grinding anyone?
gogo pull 30 mobs!

评论来自 Thottbot

^holy mother of Sargeras, that alone wants me to quit Leatherworking and Skinning and start Mining and Engineering on my Undead Warlock

评论来自 Thottbot

Does this freeze work when a mage tries to shatter? if so this may be the coolest thing i've ever seen.

评论来自 Thottbot

Works for hunter hax too... freeze, back up a few yards and shoot away :)

评论来自 Thottbot

any s/s?

评论来自 Thottbot

nvm

评论来自 Thottbot

Will this work in Arena matches?

评论来自 Thottbot

What happens to the enemy if I use this?
Does it stun them?
Does it root them like frost nova or entangling roots where they can still attack?
Or does it disorient them like rogue sap or gouge?

I mean, what's the difference? I might as well use fel iron bomb or thorium bomb since it's cheaper for pvp purposes.

评论来自 Thottbot

Do u have to be gnomish or goblin or is it for everyone?

评论来自 Thottbot

i dont really see much point in these except maybe for frost mages...

Regular bombs you make do more dmg and also stun all targets...Atleast stopping them from attacking

I can honestly only think of these as good for players or mobs immune to stun

评论来自 Thottbot

Wait, i got it! when you use these it tricks the enemy into thinking theres a mage around so they try to focus on them to avoid being PoM pryo'ed = )

评论来自 Thottbot

I did not think a Rogue would ever use these until today when I could not vanish (cool down) and I got jumped by 3 mobs and one being a 70 elite. I dropped one at my feet and ran out of aggro range.

Also you have enough time to leave aggro without blowing your sprint in most cases. But with sprint you will get outta aggro range before the affect wears off. I love these now and always carry a few

Iron

评论来自 Thottbot

this is actually REALLY good for a hunter that is kiting:) especialy in PvP

评论来自 Thottbot

As said before, Frost Mage usage.

Only expensive thing about these is the feliron:

Material required to make 50 of these

- 1 Primal Water (for 50!)
- 0.5 Mote of Fire
- 1 Mote of Earth
- 2 Netherweave Cloth
- 40 Feliron Bars

Rest of the mats for (50!) of these is pretty much 0

评论来自 Thottbot

It could be usefull as a tank on certain ocasions like when a runner tries to go to another group.
you froze him to the ground and let the party kill him
(Shadow Lab comes to my mind and I know there are other places that this happens)
Not that it will be usefull on 100% of the instances but it might have its uses :) I'll give it a try

评论来自 Thottbot

What makes these different from other bombs is the effect MAY be broken with damage.

评论来自 Thottbot

can someone explain why it wouldn't work in arena? don't tell me that it ain't allowed because Blizz thinks it's 'unfair'. :D

评论来自 Thottbot

hmm.. it can be nice used when some chicken trinkets your frostnova :P

评论来自 Thottbot

It's Frost Nova in a can.

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