With my mutilate build (41/20/0) it takes about 10-13s to get 5 cb and then SnD, meaning this trinket would be active 90% time.
Can't wait to test if it has hidden cd similar to hourglass, allthough it shouldn't because it clearly states it has 100% proc chance with 5cb.
As a Mutilate Rogue, I would be able to keep this up the entire time on a boss fight. Looks great!
6,5% (or something close to that) free crit after kidney shot.
best used on a 41/20 build. no contest.
A decently geared mutilate rogue should be able to keep this proc up at least 80-90% of the time during sustained dps.
So, getting a nearly permanent 145 crit rating increase from a trinket is just insanely overpowered when compared to trinkets with static stats.
..And to recap again to what the poster above said. I can _confirm_ 5 combo points = 100 % chance to proc and it does follow the same mechanics as relentless strikes. I would estimate with my combat sword build I kept this trinket up 75-100 % of the time depending on luck with combat potency procs (ie more energy to build up 5 combo points for an eviscerate / rupture / slice n'dice).
It isn't as good for fast-killed thrash (for combat ss rogues) since you need a full slice n'dice cycle (unless you're lucky and proc it off the first 1 pt slice n'dice you do) before you can focus on keeping this trinket up, but in longer fights this trinket is gold for combat ss rogues. Also this would be gold worth for mutilate-rogues both in PvE as well as PvP with their insanely fast cp-gen.
It should be noted this trinket relies more towards mutilate / sinister strike rogues than backstab dagger-rogues due to using finishing moves more frequently and having a higher combo points-generation, just like the deathmantle set-bonuses.
Doesn't work with Kidney Shot in live but will be fixed in 2.2.
Another reason why this actually works very nice for mutilate rogues is find weakness, this already makes it a bit of a requirement to use a finisher every 10 seconds roughly, and in practice it's quite possible too, save for dodges/parries on mutilate (no, don't flame with "you can't dodge from behind", I go mutilate something from the side and after a while I get a dodge, this is a very old point)
I assume that every rogue who is exalted with ashtongue will have enough hit to never miss abilities
This trinket is very solid for mutilate, most likely the best trinket in the game for the spec. If this trinket didn't exist I wouldn't go mutilate. The crit increase is insane and with seal fate you get tons of points.
145 crit strike rating = 6.56% crit chance, and its buff is up almost all the time. If you have enough +hit, it's propably one of the best trinkets you can get.
Ok guys can someone explain it good is this trinket better then evry other exept one from SWP ofc? Thanks
Wow, that trinket is amazing.
does anyone have this trinket and what do you think of it?
nice. by my calculations thats about 6.3% crit. Considering rupture, slice & dice, evis, and envenom can all force this proc with 5 points you can have it up almost all the time with the proper build. GODLY.
wewt first post.
Unless ofcourse there is a hidden cooldown...
145/23 = 6.3 crit for 10 seconds. it takes around 20 seconds to gain those 5 points using SS. So its up 1/2 the time
With the CP generation of mutilate I can see this being up most of the time unless there is a hidden CD.
And all the combat dagger rogues in the world groan in unison.
ok.. with seal fate/mutilate or backstab. all the time :P still godly. and are you factoring in combat potency with the 20 seconds of ss? It shouldn't take that long unless your missing ss's or you have a slow offhand.
Yeah Bro! Let's just go to Black Temple as a 19 Rogue! Easymode!
Well if you didn't know this is the black temple faction so gl.
this will be mine. and maybe the cooldown is once per mob. blizz is always makin wierd stuff w/ wierd rules so guess when i get this i will repost as to the actual potency (once per mob or per x minutes).
You get it from a Okuno which is aligned by "Ashtongue Deathsworn".
In order to register the faction in your Reputation list, you'll need to do a huge quest chain, most popularly known as the Black Temple Door Quest.
the cooldown of this trinket is a global 1 min CD before u can proc it again. same for any of these trinket.
this trinket sucks a lot for a combat dagger rogue
u need to take long time to get 5 combo points,and u will need to finishmove with 1/3 comb points to keep SnD,during a 10 mins raid boss fight,u will only have 3-4 chance to proc this
with 5 comba points.....
generally,Tsunami Talisman+Dragonspine Trophy will be the best combo for a combat dagger rogue,even Bersek's Call is much better than this for a combat dagger rogue.
"No. combat daggers are just as good as swords. depends on how you play. But ofc swords look more cool :p Im combat swords specced in raids with Talon of Azshara and yeah, we have a dagger rogue who is at same lvl or better at me with dps. dagger is not bad. if u like it, go for it! "
No, they're not. Mathematically they are absolutley inferior. Read up on Elitist Jerks if you want to see why.
If you prefer the playstyle, go for it.
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