nice grinding trinket otherwise quite useless. but low proc chance may leave it without much use :(
let's say you kill mob every 30s , in 2minute period it would be up about 40s
while bloodlust brooch with 2min cd would be up 20s when you need it in combat and with double the ap; not too hard choice.
<for Hunters> If you have this and Hourglass of the unravler and you crit that procs and you kill an enemy and recive this proc + rapid fire it would be insane xD
I would say that
is a better choice, and more easily obtained.
For a twink to get this:
1)summoned to Skettis
3)follow group member as ghost to gain rep from his kills
Is this a good trinket for a hunter? ranged crit rating and ranged AP or melee only?
This item has been hotfixed, and now requires level 70 to use.
Sucks for the twink above. Also, why are some of these procs upon the death of a mob? The attack power isn't really that great of a bonus if I won't be hitting anything anything in the next 30 seconds, so I feel that the proc is actually wasted. The only redeeming factor of this trinket is its critical strike boost.
Does this proc off of killing blows, or anytime you participate in killing something?
This trinket is situational. It's excellent for, say, a grinding rogue who can drop a mob in 10-15 seconds, or for battlegrounds where you can score killing blows left and right.
It's not very good in the arena (better to have a usable trinket you can count on, rather than a 30% chance), and it's horrible for raiding.
Obviously, there are better trinkets-- but this one is relatively easy to get, if you get the rep from the daily quests, and it certainly has it's uses.
This is currently a 50% chance on the PTR
With the upgrade to a 50% proc rate, this item is now even greater. Has basically the highest crit on any item I've seen, or at least through Karazhan.
Its also really great that the buff lasts 30 seconds, 2 or 3 times longer than most of the on use trinkets meaning that it will last you more than one fight.
This is really a pvp and grindingtrinket however. In pvp its really great for a warrior such as myself since warriors tend to get a lot of extra killing blows from executes and big whirlwinds, but of course any physical damage class will benefit a lot. In the average BG it shouldn't be too hard to keep this up most of the time.
This thing appears to go off when you kill mobs at 70, my friend had it on during a heroic underbog run and it would proc after killing mobs, not sure if its a bug but it makes it alot more usefull
I am wondering, will this stack with the Airman's Ribbon of Gallantry? so that a paladin or shaman could go around with procs?
Its 30% now
Even though it has a high crit rating, the 2nd equip is useless in raids. You're better off with Bladefist's Breadth. Good for mass PvP and farming though.
This trinket is excellent for farming, as any class that benefits from
, and since the procrate is so high it's probable that you'll be buffed with 140 attack power all the time, if you keep up a good killing-rate.
Another notable thing, mostly for paladins and shamans, is that this trinket can proc at the same time as it's
) and is therefore very useful for mainly those two classes.
Great farming tool. As a combat rogue, this helps me alot since I can down stuff quickly and move on to another mob before the buff drops. Also usefull when taking on more than one mob at a time.
Everybody is so fixated on the proc. It is +34 crit rating!! Pair it with bladefist's breadth and you have +60 crit. Very nice imo.
Anyone know if the proc can stack with itself? Like if you kill more then one mob within the 30 second buff period.
Watreskell is correct, the critical strike rating alone more than makes up for the loss of the 200 ap for 15s every 1.5 minutes. At level 70 the 34 csr translates to +1.54% critical chance. Bladefist's Breadth with a 26 csr at level 70 gives +1.18% critical chance.
The total dps of both my weapons currently is 387.6 with my current equipment. The Silver Cross with this equipment gives +11.93 dps without the proc. Bladefist's Breadth with the same equipment gives +9.15 dps from the crit and +2.38 dps from the use (200 ap for 15s once every 1.5 minutes) which comes to a total of +11.53 dps.
So assuming I never getting killing blows which is likely the case in raids I would still get 0.4 more dps with the Silver Cross than with Bladefist's Breadth and that is assuming I use Bladefist's Breadth exactly as it becomes available every time.
No, the proc can't stack.
For the csr to crit chance and ap to dps conversions see wowwiki.com.
This stacks with the Hourglass proc. Very nice grinding/farming trinket and I agree, the crit chance increase is more than enough reason for ferals to raid with this.
This trinket is incredible for farming or PvP. Sadly it is somewhat limited in use, if not useless, when it comes to raids. Of course, 34 crit rating is massive, but the hourglass of the unraveller has 32 crit rating, which is equally massive. What makes the difference is the Hourglass will proc repeatedly during a fight, giving you more AP than the Silver Cross would. The Silver Cross will hardly if ever proc during a bossfight (with the possible exception of Terestrian Illhoof, true) and if it does, it probably means your boss is dead, giving you nothing to use your extra AP on. The Hourglass truly shines in boss fights, unless you have a ridiculously low crit chance, which you won't have with a trinket like the Hourglass. In the end I would combine the Silver Cross with The Hourglass, Bloodlust Brooch or Bladefist's Breadth for farming or large scale PvP. For raids I recommend a combination of the Hourglass with Bloodlust Brooch or Bladefist's Breadth.
Does anyone happen to know if this trinket procs off, say, Vashj's elementals, Al'ar's embers, Solarian's adds, etc? If so, I can see this being useful in some boss situations.
Nice for farming as said many times above, for mutilate rogues with points in remorsless or w/e its called its even better for a huge first mutilate. of course if your in a small area its even better *ogres in nagrand :) * it can make you even more uberr, happy farming
While using this today I noticed that the bonus wouldn't proc when I get the killing blow with an eviscerate. Is that intended or a bug?
the proc alone makes this the best grinding trinket in the game. A typical fury warrior grinding shadow council warlocks in SMV will get a kill every 8 seconds on average and the proc will be up most of the time. 140 ap 75% of the time is worth approx 19 DPS, whereas the CR is worth less than 10 dps.
will the proc stack with the
Hourglass of the Unraveller
AP proc ? if it does - does it matter which one procs first ? or they'll stack regardless ?
I though some people might have questions, so here's a write-up.
The effect lasts for 30 seconds. You get the 140 AP buff for the full duration of it, not just the first shot.
If you proc it again during the duration of the buff, it gets reset, not stacked.
The buff looks like a small red flash when it procs and then like a sparkly rotating mist above your head and shoulders.
If you are killing a bunch of mobs in a row one at a time, this is a handy little trinket.
However in groups and raids, this will not proc during a boss fight when you want it most. For that, you would be better off with an
Hourglass of the Unraveller
, which has 2 less crit rating, but has a 10% chance to proc on any critical hit.
Main question for me is, why does it say "Experience or honor"?
At level 70, you don't get anymore experience, so I find myself assuming that it doesn't work at all, but if it did it would only be on mobs that normally would give experience.
With that assumption, does that mean it won't work from killing a mob (Level 60, for example) that is grey to you, thus not giving experience even if you could get it at level 70?
obtainable at lvl 19 somehow....dirtybishop has it....look her up in the armory
These looks real nice :)
Good for PvP and PvE
Looks good? Not really. Hourglass of the Unraveller is much easier to get, has almost the same crit rating (+32), gives more AP when it procs (300 for 10 sec), and would proc way more often (chance on crit).
The aura you get is called Combat Valor ->
As you can see the duration is 30 seconds, so this is much more usefull then you thought.
It can only occur every 10 seconds.
The reason why is pretty unclear, because this doesnt prevent you from having this buff the hole time.
You get rep even if you haven't done the quest, and you can summon twinks to the place.. So yes, it is possible for twinks so run around as dead and get rep from lvl 70's in a party killing the mobs. On my server there are a few twinks getting this done atm
just got this. The crit rating is nice, but the proc is pretty useless. 30 seconds seems like alot but most of that time is finding another mob to kill.
At least I only wasted 4g
"...when you kill a target that gives experience or honor"
Theres a similar thing as hunter, Rapid Killing buff, but to get it we need to get the killing blow. As the tooltip is the same, i was wondering if we need to get the killing blow to get the trinket buff.
We need to get the killing blow?
been trying to get hourglass for over 2 months now, never had it...
gonna do all the daily's every day, that way i can buy this in about 3-4 weeks...
if this trinket only procs off your killing blow i'm not sure why it is better than the hourglass according to shadowpanther. even if it works for party/raid kills, i think i'd want trinkets that help me on bosses, not multi-pull trash. i dunno. if someone would post which way it works for sure, that'd be nice.
It looks like you do have to get the killing blow for the trinket effect to proc or it might not proc in raids at all, I'm not sure. I used the trinket in a Raid group last night and it never proc'd once for me. I kept it equipped since its still a better crit rating than the trinket I replaced but it was disappointing to never see the buff go off.
proc is getting increased to 50% in next patch
This trinket is worthless unless you're grinding primal shadow or life. The proc is not that often, and when it does you spend HALF the time running to the next mob.
for raids? Even more worthless. The crit is nice, but I'd take Hourglass for the in combat proc.
Having to land the killing blow makes this good for grinding lvl 65s.
Level 105 epic....whatever.
yes it defenately sucks for raids...but thats kinda obvious...i use it in PVP and for grinding when i dont need the +35 hit from Romulo's Poison Vial
this trinket is excellent for hunters. Sit back in AV on defense do multi shots ect. Can proc alot im loveing this trinket. Excellent crit. Matches my hourglass very very well. Good on lllhoof to for karazhan boss if you use multi shot got that 140 Rap for 30 secs very nice trinket indeed. I though it would be 100g but 4g wow that is a great deal for such a good trinket. Maybe not to good for other classes but for hunters its amazing.
no matter how much this might 'suck' its only 4g, so who cares, if you have 4g to spare (which im sure most of you do) then buy it, try it out, and if you dont like it, then find something else :D
No, no, a twink can't get this
The "attunement" for Sha'tari starts with killing level 70 ogres in shattrath, by the looks lvl 65+ quest. /shoo and get some skill
i got an idea:
Both hourglass and this badge awards alot of crit, With the procs they become some of the best trinkets pre-Raid imo, But hey, not all is focused on crit rating
hmmm - as i read this it says nothing about "killing blow"
It says 30% chance when you kill a target that gives exp or honor. That should happen anytime you or someone in your party kills a mob that is green or better to you. i.e. - exactly the way you get experience. So why wouldn't this proc in raids?
As it says, you have a 30% when killing an opponent that are within your level range. You need the killing blow for it to trigger. It seems they're buffing it a bit, making the proc to 50% instead of 30%.
When you get this buff you get a cool aura around you, took a screenshot:
Since the last patch the chance has been increased to 50% making this a far more effective cat burst trink. The skygaurd quests are easy and daily making the work up to gettign this trink very profitable and who knows you may be very lucky and have the badge of tenacity drop for you while you're grinding rep in ogrila :)
Yes, the description does not say "killing blow", that's just the buzzword some prefer when refering to Blizz's writing: "when YOU kill a target". So it does not include your party as a whole.
Test it out with your previously aquired quest item
Essence Infused Mushroom
Power Infused Mushroom
, also considered a "when you kill a target" type of item.
PvP / Grind Rogue:
Great. This is simply friggin awesome dudes! ... 34% crit ROX with my backstab/stunlock %^&* specc, as I never use Bladefist in PvP, but rather Hourglass and Insignia, this'd replace hourglass while Bladefist would go vendor (Insignia + Skyguard in PvP, Hourglass + Skyguard in Grind)
Simply: A w e s o m e
Less then 12k rep to go /suicide
I dunno about yous guyses but in like any bg as a battle reapin,sweepin strikin, cleavin hackin warrior this is up all the time, and guess what boys you proc this and its victory rush time hellz yeah rocks in pvp 30 seconds is certainly enough time to intercept someone, especially with a 15 second CD intercept...crit is always nice too :)
Its a great trinket for Beast Master Hunters like me... Especially when farming. It gives my pet a middle amount of AP too and i never lose its effect. Because i am farming non-stop =p
And this is useful in dungeons. In thrash mobs and added bosses, it is really useful. Playing with +140 AP contınuously. But not useful in addless bosses. Get it...Hurry...
as MS warrior,in pvp, I use bloodlust brooch and medallion of the alliance, but in pve a dps trinket is more effective, so for grinding by myself i use bloodlust brooch and Skyguard Silver Cross, but when im in a group, skyguard silver cross isn't as good, since it wont proc as much, cause i have to get killing blow in order for it to work. So in groups or instances I use hourglass of the unraveller instead.
the skyguard silver cross is really nice for just grinding mobs though, cause there's 50% chance on mob's death for it to proc, and it lasts 30 seconds. can keep up the buff practically constantly, as opposed to the hourglass buff, which only has a chance to proc on critical hit.
and yes, i think it's better for me to have bloodlust brooch along with medallion of the alliance instead of a crit trinket, because my unbuffed AP without the bloodlust brooch is only 1494. without a crit trinket, i still have a good 30% crit chance.
Does Anyone Know If
Darkmoon Card: Madness Stacks With This Trinket?
I've started doing Kara as a fury warrior, and thinking about my performance I think this trinket is one of my best options for Kara. I've been using Abacus of Violent Odds with Bladefist's Breadth. I plan on replacing Bladefist's Breadth first. Abacus is a great way to burn a full rage bar by spamming Heroic Strikes after popping the trinket.
I have 31.23% crit unbuffed right now, and I don't really see true sustained flurry until I am nearing 40%, only possible with the Mark of the Wild druid buff (+5% crit). So the extra crit is quite nice. However, where this trinket really comes in is during trash clears in Kara. Plenty of aoe opportunities, and Sweeping Strikes plus Whirlwind is a significant source of killing blows. Thus my thinking is that on trash this trinket will proc a lot. The only Kara boss fight where this seems usefull is the Illhoof fight. A fury warrior should be off-tanking the imp within aoe range of Illhoof, and that many killing blows from the aoe should see this trinket proc as often as the internal cooldown allows.
Of course I am still farming Black Morass for the Hourglass, which would replace Abacus on trash mobs, and this Silver Cross on most boss fights. My five cents.
It says "when you kill a target that gives experience or honor"
So it wont proc from gray mobs
Im sorry but this thing procs ALL the time.. in kara it goes off on the regular.. especially on fights with adds with low hitpoints (illhoof)... my AP nears the 2800 mark!.. couple that with the crit that this has and the buffs you most likely have in your raid and this thing rocks... i also have the abacus.. .but i have since replaced it with this and my bloodlust trinket... gg game over!
Does anyone know if this is disenchantable?
当你杀死一个可以为你提供经验值或荣誉值的目标之后，有50%的几率获得140点的攻击强度加成，持续30 sec。这个效果每10秒只能出现一次。（特效触发几率：50%，10秒 冷却）
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