Survival Hunter State on the Shadowlands Beta - Spec Concerns, Hunter's Mark, Covenants

暗影国度由 celinamuna 发表于 2020/08/23，13:54

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恐吓野兽 - Fairly high focus cost ability for a very limited use ability. Not worth keybinding outside of PvP.

野兽之眼 - Might be somewhat useful in regards to being able to agro a pack of mobs, run away with them and 装死 as a slightly more convenient death-skip, but once again extremely niche.

夺命射击 - Execute mechanic that DOES work with a melee weapon. It's a nice addition, but unlikely to be significant without going Venthyr.

宁神射击- moved our utility away from a pet and made always available which is a nice change.

稳固射击 - a casted shot that DOES NOT work with a melee weapon...

奥术射击 - an instant shot that cost focus and that DOES NOT work with a melee weapon...

猎人印记 - allows us to track target, but also steals 5% of our aoe/cleave damage. Will be discussed more in-depth below.

误导 - does not trigger immediately, but still does not transfer pet threat.

复活宠物 - now a 4 seconds cast time. Unlikely to be noticed in group content, but feels very punishing in solo and pvp.

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荒野的召唤 - makes 协同进攻 a 90 second cd, which does have potential to make it line up better with mechanics (assuming that we're not hitting levels of haste where we can maintain it for extreme periods of time), as such if Embers do get nerfed this will likely be our go-to choice.

示弱战术 - likely to be exclusively PvP oriented, as even if it did have some exceptional PvE soaking potential would most likely simply get hotfixed.

奈辛瓦里的陷阱装置 - while any focus is good, since we do not* use traps for our dps rotation, it's unlikely to be useful.

魂铸余烬 - introducing "using traps for our dps rotation", this is actually an interesting design as it introduces 2 generally non rotational abilities into the rotation, and with a very strong potential. Currently due to being focus starved it's also fairly easy to squeeze it in without disrupting normal rotational flow. It is also not as position restrictive, as all of the enemies located in our when we set it of will receive a dot, and we do not lose any damage if they move out of it after.

野火弹簇 - similar to our Azerite effect, just a bit of extra damage "passively".

飞龙追猎者的混乱打击 - while there is potential for it to be good in later tiers with increased haste levels, currently seems too infrequent to be useful.

潜藏毒素注射器 - another Azerite trait resurrected, might end up being somewhat fun to use on AoE when combined with , but outside of that also doesn't have a lot of rotational gameplay implications. Part of the issue is that the damage is significantly less than the 3x Azerite equivalent one, but it still suffers from the fact that on Single Target fights it’s basically just a bit of extra damage, as we don’t need to manage it at all.

屠夫的白骨碎片 - return of our legion legendary, however greatly depowered due to lack of Hellcarver trait, combined with the addition of AoE caps making it another legendary that's unlikely to be used.

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Making it ranged. Now a number of survival players will hate this idea, but the simple fact is that if it was to become another ranged spec, with some hybrid potential, it would be far more popular. Consider this, all of the abilities besides Raptor/Mongoose and auto-attacks are already "ranged", if there was a system similar to other specs where they can pick what weapon they want to use, while everything else remains constant, it would become far more popular, say make Raptor/Mongoose transform from "strike" into "shot", but do 2-3% less damage, the actual rotation and the spec identity (Mongoose stacks) would be preserved, but it would become a lot more raid viable.

Unique utility. While this suggestion might cause outrage from some BM or MM players, I do believe it is fairly reasonable. Currently you're making a lot of sacrifices with no "mechanical" advantages, I am not sure what exact utility would be a good fit for this. Some people have suggested Aspect of the Fox, but I believe it might not be that useful in current raid fight design. It could also be something similar to Enhancement's windfury, which isn't exceptionally strong, but it is unique and not shared with Elemental. Or possibly even simply getting to "steal" some other class utility as something like physical vulnerability boss debuff, or something similar.

A strong niche. Currently Survival's niche is closest to "single target with very even, non bursty damage", however that damage pattern is not ideal; in almost all raid and dungeon situations, if you are given a choice between two classes that do same overall dps but one is extremely bursty it will generally be the go to. As such, it's might benefit from getting a change to it's damage pattern, in becoming far more bursty, at the cost of slightly lower sustain, or if staying with the strong sustain, doubling down on the legion idea, and becoming an extemely potent dot spec - similar to Assassination, which while isn't always the best spec for rogues, is generally a very safe pick.