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评论来自
5519
Current record seems to be 4 man to down Onyxia. 2 priests, warrior and rogue:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3913987439473738371&q=onyxia+4+man
Might be doable with 3 but it would still probably require 2 healers making your dps extremely low and the fight ridiculously long.
评论来自
4634
Onyxia is a three phase fight:
Phase one (100%):
- Immune to standard aggro tools. Sunders still work.
- Knockback to the front and back
- Fire breath to the front
- Standard melee attacks
Phase two (60%):
- Onyxia takes flight
- Complete aggro loss
- Fireball spits at random targets
- Whelp spawns related to quantity in raid
- Deep breaths kill for 4,000+ damage. (Frequency is related to clusters of people as well as too many or not enough DoTs/DPS)
Phase three (40%):
- Onyxia lands
- Immune to standard aggro tools. Sunders still work.
- Knockback to the front and back
- Fire breath to the front
- Standard melee attacks
- Lava spits. Stay off the cracks or they will burn you.
- Random fears. Frequently in conjunction with lava spits.
The biggest key to the fight is not taking aggro from the main tank. Everything else is trivial in comparison. Strategies for this fight are fairly standardized.
评论来自
7458
There have been loads of speculations about Onyxia. After killing her for almost two years now i have come to conclude a few things.
Phase 1 is very very very easy especially now with KTM Threat meater all people have to do is stay 10k threat (this is because every time she knockbacks the tank, the tank looses 10k threat) under the tank till 75% and then nuke her down to fall into phase 2.
A lot of people whine about her doing deep breadths (phase 2) because everyone is not spread out etc. This is just a myth. The only reason people should spread out is not to take aoe damage from the firebolt. I have two theroies why she does deep breadths. My first theory is that if you do a substantial ammount of dps on her in phase 2 meaning everyone is nuking the hell out of her (including rogues and warriors) she will not deep breadth. Another theory is that most people in the raid are not on her threat list since a lot of raid leaders want people to spread out and do nothing because most of the time she is not in range. Though if people use thier bows and run around a little bit just to hit once and be on that threatlist after she moves (every time onyxia moves in phase two aggro is reset) she will not but that would defy my first theory.
Third phase is the hardest but can be the most easiest this all depends on how fast and good your main tank is. If he does manage to pull onyxia stright away and gain fast ammount of threat from here on onyxia can be nuked down. I also have a speculation about her in the 3rd phase. Most of the time she fears a lot sometimes no. I have come to conclude that if there is a high ammount of dps on her in the second phase she will fear less than if there was no dps at all. So that is why its all up to the main tank. More threat = More Nuke = Less Fears = Killing her very fast. My guild at the moment kills her in about 3-4mins tops.
评论来自
7343
Farming Onyxia as 10-15 is great to get lots of gold. I killed her as 15 with my guild and each of us got lots of gold each. If you keep tryin to do it with your guild a few times it should be possible.
评论来自
6762
Well down Ony fairly consistently now. the first 2 phases are fairly routine and as the others have said.
Something we have found handy in the 3rd phase is if you have a main tank who is a blacksmith he can get this little trinket
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10418
With a 30sec anti fear it is bloody excellent. Works very well with stance dancing, fear isnt a problem.
Hope this helps.
评论来自
8067
Shaman tier 2 has been added to the alliance loot table as well as paladin tier 2 to the horde's on Onyxia.
评论来自
4130
The current theorycraft about Onyxia is Onyxia fireballs the top person on her threat list during Phase 2, and that her fireball is actually an aggro-wipe on the person it's targetted at.
Keep in mind this is just a theory, and except for major theorycrafters remains untested. How many people have claimed to know what causes Deep Breath, after all?
评论来自
ButtonsVelen
whats the average gold amount she drops?
评论来自
Lillasyster
Neither hunter nor druid tank is required as above post stated. Has been done in the past with warrior tanks, and just a few days ago we did it without problem again, with 6 70s. (and my 64 alt) with no hunter, no druid. It was ridicusly easy.
评论来自
Kathucka
Here's the truth of Onyxia:
Deep Breath is *random*. Every time she moves, she has a random chance to move clockwise, move counter-clockwise, or move straight across. If she moves straight across, she will use a Deep Breath attack.
Many people claim that Deep Breath is not random and that there is a clear cause for it. These people are wrong, but they are religious about this and will not be convinced otherwise. Do not waste your time arguing with them.
Deep Breath will not hit you if you are off to the side of her path as she flies across the room. Keep yourself in a safe position. That's all you need to know about Deep Breath.
There is a tunnel with openings on the east and west wings of the cave. It's full of whelp eggs. If you go in there, a lot of whelps hatch and cause trouble, so stay out.
Stay away from her tail. It might knock you into the whelp tunnel.
She has two knockback attacks. One of them will reduce the threat of a single target by 25%, so use a threat meter, and don't out-aggro the main tank. Also, tank her at the far north point of her lair, so that the tank gets knocked back into the wall.
Her Phase 2 fireballs cause a complete threat wipe to her main target, which causes considerable confusion at the start of Phase 3.
She has a PBAOE cleave, Flame Breath, and Wing Buffet that hit in front of her. Don't be in front of her unless you're the main tank.
The main tank should have some way to get out of the Fear, with Berserker Rage being commonly used.
She has no global threat wipe, only the two single-target threat reduction attacks.
Fire resistance is good. Stamina and damage is better. Defense and resilience is important for the main tank, to avoid big crits.
评论来自
1314
Druid tank not necessary, tanked it myself as a warrior. All I have to add is, without deep breaths, I'd say only the tank needs minor fire resistance, and even then can get away without it. Her flame breath hits for over 3k, be mindful of this.
评论来自
Lillasyster
"Here's the truth of Onyxia:"
"Many people claim that Deep Breath is not random and that there is a clear cause for it. These people are wrong, but they are religious about this and will not be convinced otherwise. Do not waste your time arguing with them.
TBH, your opinion on this matter seems at least as religious as the ones claiming there is a clear cause of it.
I'm personally quite sure that there are factors you can affect, but there is randomness in them aswell. What I can tell about them from my own experience is this:
-Cluster up the raid in one spot DOES NOT cause a DB. I've been doing her in the past with odd strategies, one included the whole raid in the same spot enitre phase 2. Several times I've done that with no DB's.
-Maintaining dps on her at sertain points, like when she turns, seems to affect the chance of a DB. So does the number of debuffs.
评论来自
Marvili
It is possible to two man Onyxia, specifically with an affliction warlock/holy paladin combination. The affliction warlock drain tanks, and the holy paladin heals. If you need details about how it has done, search for the video on Warcraft Movies.
评论来自
43958
iv seen him killed by 3man (warrior,priest and pally) lvl 60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-5wXoKtXZ0
(part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHbegWp44M
(part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8262ap5TdI
(part3)
takes almost 30minute 90%of it is like 200%speed
评论来自
74663
The new record is 2 men.
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=43563
45 min. fight. The video is 2x speed most of the time making it a 25 min. video.
评论来自
34672
Recently 2 manned, by a Paladin and Warlock.
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=43563
Took them 42 minutes and 33 seconds.
评论来自
78700
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评论来自
stealthyboy
Onyxia has been done with 3 people, paladin,warrior(with thunderfury) and a hunter, she might even be doable with 2 people but might take a while
评论来自
100233
we 5 manned her, phase 1 no deaths
phase 2, two deep breaths killed me, and the other two people but we got her onto the ground
phase three:35 minutes 1 holy paladin 1prot warrior, insane and boring to listen to them brag on loot.
phase 4, hunter declares everything hunter loot.
评论来自
39806
3 manned her with Shadow Priest(me), Affliction Lock and Resto Druid, really fun fight and good combo for this fight if you want to 3 man her or something.
评论来自
113168
From the dozens of times i've killed Onyxia pre-BC, i've come to a conclusion about Deep Breath.
1 - It's on some sort of timer. For instance, she won't deep breath 5 seconds after she takes off. The timer could be linked to her %HP. Either way, i've never heard of a raid getting Breathed on right at the beginning of phase 2.
2 - Regarding DOTs on Ony preventing Deep breath, I think it's false. The strategy I used in the countless Pugs i did pre-BC, we always emphasized to the ranged dps to go balls to the wall, and for all classes with DOTs or ranged dps to nuke her.
Basically, Full DOTS = Everyone is DPSing = Onyxia Dies Faster = Phase 2 is over quicker
^^^ This could also be the reason we would often get 0 deep breaths, because we had sufficient DPS to beat her "Breath Timer"
3 - Spreading out doesn't do #$%^. People only did it so fireballs wouldn't suck so bad.
评论来自
108839
Hi, what sort of gear would killing Onyxia require if you do it with like 10 people? Only turned 70 myself recently and want the tier 2 for RP gear, not got much decent gear so what gear would it need?
评论来自
86322
so yea jst did her and she like bugged out. she didnt atk any of us the 1st phase and she ran around until he ended up in a whelp cave then we jst range dps'd her down to 2nd phase then the fight was normal
any1 noe if this is consistent cuz i cant try again for a while lol
评论来自
130505
03/01/2008
We down her with only 3 ppl(1 Prot.Paladin,1 Sub Rogue and 1 Holy Paladin,me) :) and i got 56g and some epic/blue item from her.We was decide to killed her again after reset :D
评论来自
368
Getting feared into the whelps will most likely result in a 50 DKP minus for you when doing this encounter.
评论来自
60600
Man im mad they should bring more 40 mans back...
评论来自
117834
So is this possible to 2/3 man with some just-hit 70s? I dont have a lot of 70 gear and think it would be fun to down her with one or two of my friends.
评论来自
Thodas
Does Cloak of Shadows work on Deep Breath?
评论来自
149439
A sl/sl warlock and I(resto druid) two manned her yesterday. We both have full s3, and it was fairly easy. The hardest part was keeping the Whelps under control. It took about 40 minutes, and we got 64g a piece. If you are attempting to try this with a warlock, I suggest you do not use soul link, it is plenty easy to keep a warlock up with just Fel Armor.
She was hitting my warlock for about 1500 whites and her fire breath was doing about 3k. Not to bad at all.
评论来自
51171
3 maned by 3 healers: 1 holy Paly trying hard to tank (yeah negative aggro due to knockbacks...) and two resto shaman. 46 minutes later she went down.
From our experience their is almost no difference between healing a holy pally in prot gear and a resto shaman in resto gear. Honestly, even a (decently equipped) mage could tank Onyxia if you have good healers.
If you 5-man her with a "regular" setup she goes down very fast and rewards a considerable amount of money and resources.
评论来自
155787
Onyxia, has been solo'd by a Resto druid.
A link to the video is here:
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=76343
And a forum link is here:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6762238991&sid=1
评论来自
loragheta
it was solo way 2 troll the hunter was only there if a bug happens which is a warder coming into combat via ony flying at the south end at phase 2 gj at trying to troll tho
评论来自
superpoisin
Yea I am fo sho glad that that pally showed Sernnia up, trying to act like you solo'd it....I mean come on that took over 2 hours...Par was amazing at that, and while Paladins in General are *cough* OP *cough* still, that took skill. The amazing mana regen still boggles my mind =O.
评论来自
Idiotwater
Easily 2 manned by myself and a Resto druid.
Bonechewer - Horde
Unbeefable (70 Resto druid)
Drugstore (70 Hunter)-me
评论来自
Thottbot
phase 1: have even groups go right and odd groups go left. let MT build agro and then open fire with steady dps.
phase 2: SPREAD OUT if anyone is withing 4 yards of anyone else you may wipe the group. have 3 or 4 people designated to kill the whelps.
phase 3: get your faces to the wall. once she starts fearing and that lava shoots up you want to have your face to a wall so you dont get feared into the lava. stay away from cracks. have hunters turn aspect of the pack on. around this time the rogues and warriors should be meleeing.
these are all from experience, some info may be off.
评论来自
Thottbot
to avoid deep breath u have to spread outa nd keep DPS on her
also if she turns her head she is less likely to do deep breath..... comone guys u cna kill her!
评论来自
Thottbot
Hard to believe there are still so many retarded comments after all these months.
Onyxia's Lair is found to the very south of Dustwallow Marsh. It's a 40 man raid zone with 4 pulls before you actually fight her. Good, experienced groups, can kill her with 30 people. There are 3 phases in the fight. Watch a video to see how it works.
In order to enter Onyxia's Lair, you need to posses the Drakefire Amulet, which is only attainable through a very long quest chain. The chain is different for Horde and Alliance. The horde quest chain starts with the Warlord's Command quest, which is obtained at Kargath. The alliance chain has already been posted in this thread.
Onyxia drops all the tier 2 epic set helms, plus other miscellaneous items (weapons, necklaces, trinkets, cloaks, etc). For those people who don't really know about class set items, I'll list them here:
Class - Rare set (blue) - T1 epic set (purple) - T2 epic set (purple)
Druid - Wildheart - Cenarion - Stormrage
Hunter - Beaststalkers - Giantstalkers - Dragonstalkers
Mage - Magister - Arcanist - Netherwind
Paladin - Lightforge - Lawbringer - Judgement
Priest - Devout - Prophecy - Transcendance
Rogue - Shadowcraft - Nightslayer - Bloodfang
Shaman - Elements - Earthfury - Ten Storms
Warlock - Dreadmist - Felheart - Nemesis
Warrior - Valor - Might - Wrath
You won't see them all drop the first time you kill her because obviously she doesn't drop 8 epics at a time. If you manage to kill her 100 times though, I'm pretty sure you'll see an even spread of class drops.
Those are the only class set items that Onyxia drops. She does not drop non-helm T2 set items, and does not drop any T1 set items. T1 epic set items in Molten Core, and the rest of the T2 epic set items drop in Blackwing Lair.
评论来自
Thottbot
All correct.. exept you forgot to mention that T2 epic set Leggings drop off Ragnaros in MC.
评论来自
Thottbot
i think she's soloable by a t6 lvl 70 pala,if not,soloable by a MIB suited man lvl 80 in WOTLK
评论来自
Thottbot
In regards to raiding Onyixia as a group of level 70s
Taken From "
http://www.wowwiki.com/Boss:"
These bosses have a "dynamic" level - when a numeric level is required for some calculation, they are considered to be 3 levels above the player character involved in that calculation. That is, if both a level 60 warrior and a level 65 druid both tank the same skull type boss, the boss will
make crushing blows on the warrior as if it was 63
, and on the druid as if it was 68. Similarly, the boss will
resist their respective powers as a 63- and 68-level creature would.
Questions:
Basically, it would hit as hard and has as much defense against damage from DPSers as level skull boss from Karazan or any level skull boss from TBC?
Does this mean that *all* of her attacks hit scale with level?
Does this imply that though Onyxia will be hard, dealing with whelps will be easier because of the level difference?
Other Questions:
How many Kara epicced level 70s will it take to down Onyxia? Yes I've seen all of your warcraft movies showing any number between 3-14 individuals beating her, but I never got any information about gear - profile links were outdated.
评论来自
Thottbot
I 4-man Onyxia every week. I think of it as a daily quest. I spend 15 minutes killing him, then i get a bunch of gold(or disenchanted items that are as good as gold). Plus the 18-slot bag is always nice. Onyxia drops ~180 gold! That's 45g each for a 4-man.
Usually my team consists of 4 level 70 players: a tank(me) 70 prot warrior in T4/5. A healer... preferably pally for the buffs and nearly infinite mana. Then 2 ranged DPS. Preferably hunter+warlock. Neither of those classes run OOM, and both can deal with the pesky whelps without any problem.
On average it takes us about 4-10 minutes to kill her.... so for an easy translation: 10 minutes of work gives you ~4 nexus crystals, ~4 large brilliant shards, 1 18-slot bag, and 180g. NOT BAD
评论来自
Thottbot
OK, so many people claim they did a 2 man or even the occasional claim of a solo;
Does the idea that you ought to video your supposed glories ever occur to you? You can 2 man her 50 times and it still won't matter, because you (and noone else) has put forward a complete and convincing Youtube movie of it. I acknowledge that I am being a cynic and critic, but post a video or IT DIDNT HAPPEN.
3 man has been done. No questions asked. Just see the video of the lvl 60 war/pally/hunt from stranglethorn server.
2 man is in question. There is only one video I have seen (and I have surveyed quite a few) that comes close to believable. If someone posts about the healadin/SL SL lock video I am referring to, I will likewise post for my reasons for thinking the video is illegit, possibly and likely a private server.
1 man; a few paladins claim this title, but unlike even the 2 man, there are NO videos that suggest this is possible. (maybe the first stage, who knows)
评论来自
Thottbot
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8463/wowscrnshot020208232343wd9.jpg
Here's a shot!
评论来自
Thottbot
I know this might be a bit nooby, but I'm only lvl 50, so.... question: someone in my guild said something about her head hanging in org? is that a one time server thing? or does her head hang on a pole in org every time someone kills her?
评论来自
Thottbot
Each time Onyxia is killed she drops which is an item which begins a quest. For alliance, the quest is to take the head to SW keep. For horde, I believe it is Thrall's room. You have your choice of 3 epic level 60 trinkets, and upon turning the quest in Onyxia's head is displayed in the city, and everyone gets a buff called "Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer" which is extremely nice and lasts 2 hours. However, do note that the buff does not work on us level 70 peeps.
P.S., about those solo vids...I don't think I should even have to say anything... and I'm not familiar with this nerf one of you mentioned.
评论来自
Thottbot
Getting feared into the whelps will most likely result in a 50 DKP minus for you when doing this encounter.
评论来自
TorrentKatten
I am quite sure that the Onyxia Scale Cloak is crafted by Leatherworkers and not Tailors
评论来自
Chronokatan
You might not see some ! if your level is too high because some quests can already be started under level 50. So you might need to talk to the quest givers directly to see if they offer a quest.
Alliance questchain:
1.
黑龙的威胁
2.
真正的主人
3.
真正的主人
4.
真正的主人
5.
真正的主人
6.
真正的主人
7.
真正的主人
8.
温德索尔元帅
9.
被遗弃的希望
10.
弄皱的便笺
(drop quest item
弄皱的便笺
)
11.
一丝希望
12.
冲破牢笼!
13.
集合在暴风城
14.
潜藏者
15.
巨龙之眼
16.
龙火护符
Horde quest chain:
1.
高图斯的命令
2.
伊崔格的智慧
3.
为部落而战!
4.
风吹来的消息
5.
部落的勇士
6.
雷克萨的证明
7.
黑龙幻象
8.
埃博斯塔夫
9.
龙骨试炼,克鲁纳里斯
龙骨试炼,斯克利尔
龙骨试炼,索姆努斯
10.
龙骨试炼,埃克托兹
11.
晋升……
12.
黑龙勇士之血
评论来自
twonk
Correction to the guide:
Skinners with a 315 profession level can skin her for Scale of Onyxia, a cloak that is learned by
Tailors
The cloak (used to protect against Nefarian in BWL) is a
Leatherworking
recipe, not Tailoring.
图样:奥妮克希亚鳞片披风
评论来自
Drominius
Since the reset of Onyxia is not on a 7 day cooldown, we killed her twice in a week and got two heads that we wanted to user for our ~3h MC run next Sunday.
But that did not work out. We placed the first head, ran MC till Ragnaros and went back to OG for the second buff which did not appear after turning in the quest.
So i there seems to be a cooldown as to how often a new Onyxia Buff is cast.
评论来自
Roggos
Shaman Head is more like 75%.If not 90%
评论来自
BremmSparkfist
Killed her in TBC Classic and she dropped 170g.
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