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评论来自 9443

I would agree with above ^^^
This is a MUST for all PvP Paladins, There is a nice trick for this that I used.
-When you are in range to use this against your enemy, immediatley use repentance to dismount/ stop the enemy/ seperate him from his group. (I especially find this useful when trying to catch enemies such as Flagholders)
-Now that your enemy is stopped regain a bit of mana for a second or heal (potions etc)
-now hit him again with a Hammer of Justice
-He is stunned again, Unleash your DPS

评论来自 79473

Does Will of Forsaken remove this?

评论来自 Abraxin

While this is a great CC for PvP and "light CC" in PvE, I really feel like it's quite underpowered. Don't get me wrong. I love this spell with all my heart. I am a Ret-arded person after all lol. But I really do think this should have been made into a baseline paladin spell. Making this "Improved Repentance" would have been sweetness.+3% increased chance that it won't be resisted and +19 seconds added to its duration against NPCs. Wonderful!

As it is? It's a staple for any Retadin out there. Be they PvP or PvE. No reason NOT to get this. But it really does need an upgrade after all this time :)

评论来自 Thottbot

Does it work on human players in PVP mode?

评论来自 Thottbot

I totally agree with kibo, I am planning on speccing on prot and using this skill as well as I can see that this skill gives u 2 stuns per minute not just 1 and the ability to heal up any time :)

And prot is really an overlooked tree - just look at Imp. DEV aura and Toughness that give great extra armor, and Reckoning and repentance that allow u to heal several times oer minute without beinb interrupted, unless ur opponent has insugnia...then u use repentance....

AND Imp. Blessing of freedom, use it against hunters and mages and u will see why this tree kixks more but than the other 2, seriuosly - try it, I amgona respec to prot and se how it works and I have no doubt I will be pleased ^^

评论来自 Thottbot

Hi,

I use it very often in PvP. Its range is longer than the HoJ and uses diferent timer so I use it to get into combat range. If the enemy tries to run again then HoJ.

I tried stun-lock a mob while killing the other but the timers are too long and both skills (Rep, HoJ) fade too fast.

Regards,

Zav

评论来自 Thottbot

Whenever i use this in PvP (which is often) i have never seen insignia being used on it, and im sure ppl have tried it, so this is REALLY useful for getting in one quick heal.

评论来自 Thottbot

i find the rep-HoJ semi stunlock pretty usefull 4 some extra SoC judgements but u kinda need something like 11+/x/31+
have sanctity aura and SotC up before this (bonus points if vengeance procs :)
cast SoC. if ur target doesn't seem to want to flee (full health, melee class that sorta things) or there r more targets also cast consecration before SoC.
as soon as u can, HoJ and judge SoC. Refresh SoC and u'll prolly get to attack once-twice after this
cast repetance, judge SoC as soon as it lights up and refresh it
this is pretty unreliable cause ppl can trinket out of stuns but u can hurry up with the repent and usually u get the judgements before they break them anyway
now u spent about 600mana (consecrate not included) and did about 800 certain unmitigated dmg + whatever SoC procs or melee strikes u got lucky with AND stunlocked ur target for about 3-9 secs (3 if the target used a trinket)
if u had cast consecrate before the HoJ it would prolly get all tics and not break rep early which means an extra 400 if fighting one target (so mana inefficient against one ...)
what do u say?

评论来自 Thottbot

Will of the Forsaken breaks this I think...

评论来自 Thottbot

No, it doesn't. It doesn't work on incapacitation. I easily forget that it doesn't. It only works against fear, charm, and stun (can't remember if it's stun, though). I know it doesn't work cause earlier on today while I was playing I was sapped by a rogue and I couldn't WotF out of it.

评论来自 Thottbot

1. Hammer of Justice has a 10 yard range
2. Repentance has a 20 yard range
3. Hammer of Wrath has a long 30 yard range

These ranges are not random, use each ability appropriately and you will see the benefits of each skill.

{Your strongest defense is not to be surprised}

评论来自 Thottbot

My strategy for battlegrounds/world pvp is to first throw a stun grenade, then run ip, get in first hit, hammer of justice, get in second and possibly third hit, then repentance, fourth hit. At that point theyre boned because youve already nearly killed them, and theyve been stunned the entire time.

评论来自 Thottbot

Has someone ever made the comparaison?

REPENTANCE
= WAY lower mana cost - 60 mana? oh oh
= Almost IDENTICAL DAMAGE dealt with Judgement of Command and the bonus to damage due to the incapacitate effect
= + RANGED INCAPACITATE = so many uses

HOLY SHOCK
= Instant Heal but EXTREM mana cost.
THIS should even not be the use of a SHOCK.
But come a few patches, and then Holy Paladins are relegated to pure support even in their offensive tools, although it was promised it would have never been the case - THIS, is important.

WHICH GIVES
By evidence repentance is the winner by a large margin. Has someone never seen this? Ready to argue against that?

Additional note: Not only on Repentance but Retribution paladins have overall a better talent tree.
If memory serves, this has always been the case.

评论来自 Thottbot

However in the next minor patch this will be dispellable by the PvP trinket along with stuns, blinds, fears or whatever.

评论来自 Thottbot

Honorable to kill someone when they are repenting, hoohoo = =

评论来自 Thottbot

Im a ret spec pally and this talent is PRICELESS in pvp/pve
One thing pallys lack in is spell disruptions. We only have our 6 sec stun (which is awesome but suck with the 1m cooldown)
however while fighing any spellcasters try casting repentance midway through their cast, it interupts, costs them mana and set you up for a judgement on SoC.

At first i though this was a crap spell but got it anyway cuz i wanted fanaticism now i use it on all spellcaster mobs first (cheap cost) and when/of they try to run just stunn them for the finish. A+ spell. (kinda useless on meele unless u need to heal or proc the SoC judgment

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ok, I don't get this skill I guess. Can it be used on multiple enemies? Is there a cooldown? Can I recast it to keep one enemy from ever attacking?

评论来自 Allakhazam

this spell is only attainable through the ret talent tree and only work on world creature humaniods and not other players.

评论来自 Allakhazam

cool down is a long min ... not that great for only 6 sec. :(

评论来自 Allakhazam

Yeah, what's the cooldown? That is a hugely important bit of informaiton that's missing.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm thinking this could be used as a Pally's "poor-man" version of polymorph to take care of adds while engaging another mob. Maybe the duration get's better with higher ranks like all the other talent-exclusive spells.

评论来自 Allakhazam

From what I've read, the value of this is: if you've already chosen to get Holy Shield, you may want to consider getting this, too. Why? If you pvp a lot it is a second stun to use at the end of the fight when the target is about to flee.

The argument I read is that you save up as much firepower as you can for the end when the enemy turns to flee. Stun, judge a damage-doing seal - throw a bomb if yer an engi timed to do it's 2 second stun as your first stun ends - then if target is still alive do THIS stun and whack-a-mole. You should be able to kill at this point.

Never tried it, my pal is still under 20. But this is the value of this from what I've read. Is it worth it? I guess it is if you constantly get people running from you in pvp and you want to kill.

Of course having a second stun is useful in other circumstances, obviously - like if you need to run, like to stop the target from healing self, etc.

评论来自 Allakhazam

where is this spell i havent found it in talents

评论来自 Allakhazam

Compare this talent to a rogue's Gouge skill. You use this to set up your opponent for a powerful attack or to run away while your opponent is unable to follow.

Thing with paladins is, however, we don't get any abilities that are much more powerful than another. Best way I can see to use this skill is to throw on a quick bandage while your opponent can't attack and even get back a couple ticks of mana while you are at it.

If this ability were just 2-4 seconds longer then people would REALLY gripe about paladins.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Okay let's clear some things out as all these posts are OLD!

First
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You CAN cast this on other players (you know players are humanoids too! OH MY GODZILLA)

Second
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This is mainly used to:
1- Interrupt a caster that thinks it's an easy heal now that Hammer of Justice is out.

2- Make another double damage Judgement of Command (Yes, it also triggers the double damage)

3- Block this one dude on his epic mount running to Stormpike GY in AV. (It has extended range, a few yards more than Hammer of Justice)

Lastly
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Do not think about using a stun/concecration/judge SoC combo with this thing, this a 6 seconds GOUGE, Damage = taking it out.

Thank you.

评论来自 Allakhazam

It should be mentioned that Will of the Forsaken, the Undead raciel, does not Remove Repentance. Some paladins disregard this talent saying they'll just use WotF to drop it any(Repentence is a sleep effect), but the Raciel does not remove this ability. The only way to remove this debuff other then it wearing off, is for the target to be damaged or dispelled.

I don't know if the same is true for Stoneform, but since Dwarves are on your team, it shouldn't be a concern.(Raciel says, removes sleep, but since WotF doesn't, I doubt it would)

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is a 31 point talent in the Ret tree, meaning you can't get this until level 40 at the earliest.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This spell is also used my the Maiden of Virture in Karazhan, lasts about 12 seconds, i think that Druids in Tree of Life form are immune to it

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60法力值	20 码范围

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使目标进入冥想状态，最多持续6 sec。任何伤害都会唤醒目标。只对人型生物有效。

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