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评论来自 8004

i think it depends on the proc rate onthe enchant. if its a regular proc, i'd say go with the mongoose enchant. however, for now at least, get the dual wield with 2x +15 enchants.

评论来自 8253

To be able to learn this enchant you need to have an honored reputation with the timbermaw's. I found the easiest way to get here is to grind the timbermaw's in the upper camp of felwood and if possible get in a group to do it since that makes farming faster.

Also at friendly you recieve the +25agi enchant from the timbermaws which is a big money maker for enchanters.

评论来自 5918

Any one know how much this enchant can go for on average? Also, would you recomend this enchant over fiery for the 49 BG?

评论来自 69613

i think mongoose is a waste of money inless ur realy rich...

i mean +120 agi si gr8 but it says ocasisonaly and its like 70% crit chance for like 6-10 secs .....

评论来自 62380

This enchant would cost roughly 125g, but of course it would depend on each server. This enchant has become strictly a twink enchant, mostly for the 19 bracket.

评论来自 122648

its nice but mongoose is much better .

评论来自 111827

Use +15 agi until your weapon's item level (not required level) is lvl 35+

评论来自 108550

This is a pure twink enchant and as such its highly in demand. I found it well worth my while when i was leveling my mage to grind the rep for timbermaw and get this. Loads of experience from grinding as well as a great money maker.

评论来自 140590

Check out Thermaplugg's Left Arm https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=9459. Requires lv 28, item lv 37.

If you're not up to reading through comments, I'll quote the important ones here:

Sorry, no, this item cannot be enchanted with Mongoose. If it were a quest reward with no level requirement to equip, but retained its item level 37, then yes, it would be eligible. However level requirements take precedence over the item level.

I recommend Crusader or 25 agility on this weapon.

Just got this on 3rd run and I can tell you it is NOT eligible.
I tried to enchant Mongoose, Savagery and Potency onto it however you'll just recieve the message:
"Target is too low level"

So yes, the required level still matters. Hope that clears up your confusion.

评论来自 157503

how much does 15 agi cost

评论来自 Thottbot

This, along with +str weapon, Healing power to bracer, and mana regen are all new via the 1.6 patch...

They are obtained from reputation gains from Argent Dawn, Furblogs and Wildhammer clans i believe.

评论来自 Thottbot

The enchant is sold by a Timbermaw furbolg called Meilosh. You have to be Honored with Timbermaw to get it and it's a limited ammount of 1.

评论来自 Thottbot

Vessper, you�re not paying for the press of a button, you�re paying for the immense effort it took to be able to buy the recipe.

So the person who took it upon himself to get the recipe is greedy? How about the one who expects to get all this for next to nothing?

If someone brings the mats for the enchant, he most likely bought them at the AH with somebody else making the profit there. Recipes such as Crusader, Lifestealing, etc. easily cost 100g at the AH. Unless the enchanter charges some money for this "simple click of a button", he�s getting the short end of the stick.

评论来自 Thottbot

I love how all of you are arguing with the enchanters. I for one, am not an enchanter, but I TOTALLY agree with them, and that they should charge money for enchants. How else are they supposed to get money? besiders they used their time and money to get that high, and they are earning it back right now.

Now, most proffessions can make things for others too, such as leatherowrking-tailoring-blackmsiting. Let's say someone gave you the mats to make an Arcanite Reaper, since you had farmed the plans for 2 days and finally gotten it. Would you say, sure, I can do it for free, or would you charge like 20 gold? I definitatlly would charge them, because I worked to get it.

I'm an alchmeist, and I charge pepole for Arcanite Transmutes. It's the same thing as doing enchanting (except it does have a time limit), but I'm not about to do it for you for free, even though it is just a click of a button, unless you are my friend or guildie. I doubt that all of you would do it for free too, when people are willing to pay money for it. Your just throwing away money then, and that's so plain dumb.

Just my 2 cents

评论来自 Thottbot

Incredible lack of consideration by some people here. I am an enchanter, but I'm NOT a hyppocrit. I chose enchanting cos I knew it was the hard way but wanted to take control over it. I'm being perfectionist with my char so I'm attempting to collect all the recipes there is for any possible price, and main reason for sure isn't to make profit. Most enchanters want to make profit so they had money for their craftable epics/rares, epic mounts etc. but I'm over that - I got epic mount on both my chars and can't really use money on anything (except maybe prices like 400g for +3int type of things, not my thing) since I'm not going to make new chars on this server or if I am, not in more than six months.

Now you probably think I'm on the side of this group who expect to get their enchants for less than 10g if they have mats? Grrrrrr, makes me furious :p

I've raised the skill, got the rod, farmed for AGES to obtain certain recipes and also used at least 500g for em from AH and ofc wasted an eternity by idling in Org advertising my enchanting gifts when raising skill. No matter if I need money or not, YOU do NOT deserve the service for no or low price. I rather take the 20g-40g from you and give it to next lev15 guy who asks money for respeccing than do it for free. Still, the main reason for the work I've done for my profession is because I love to make business in wow, checking ratings and all the time changing prices of reagents. I didn't enjoy getting the stuff only to have full list of recipes or to get "thx" from customers but to be the best marketman on corners of Orgrimmar. It's great to see I made 10g profit (due to great AH skills though) and still obtain good image of myself in eyes of the customer -> he'll come back to me.

To the one who said that 90% of enchanters get help from guild is utter crap. I know several enchanters, that's more than 10, and none of em has got ANY help from guild, maybe someone has got free arcanite transmute from a friend or something similar but seriously don't even start talking about enchanters not doing their job alone.

I don't have enough experience with blacksmithing/lworking to give any real opinions about those, but at least tailoring and alchemy (and obviously all gathering profs) are ri*!@#ilously easy to raise to 300 with little or no money at all lost in process. With runebags & certain pots you can even make tiny profit, depends a lot on server though, not to forget regular mooncloth/arcanite transmute timers that produce you on avg 5g per 2d for "just clicking a button". That's not much like with professional enchanters/hammersmiths (or cheatprof mining) but there really is no risks in business, you aren't losing much money at any point.

I'd like to call enchanting real men's profession, without being sovinistic at all of course. Risks=money lost at many spots and huge time wasted on farming/advertising/AH-observing are all huge factors in making the prof the worst option out there. After a lot of work you might be able to get back on your feet though and eventually make some profit if you play your cards right and that's exactly why I love it.

I totally agree with the one who said he's taking 100g+mats for this. If market allows this, why the hell not? On my server too many have honored with timbermaw though so I'm only taking ~15g, but not cos I'm nicer than 100g guy - I'm just forced to do this. This also reminds me of the armorsmith who said he'd need to do 80x lionheart helm to get back on tracks. You really must be trying to act too nicely or just don't care about money or making business. I assume you've used at MOST 1200g, probably less, to raise your skill which would only make your craftingcosts 15g. On my server there's only one on server who does the helm and his costs are 90g+mats. He can do it and he'd be dumb not to because he still has tons of people lined up for it. In words of rightfulness lionheart/bottomless bag recipes are probably the only ones that shouldn't have lame craftingcosts (like 150g+ for lionheart, 60g+ for bottomless) because getting those has been totally lucky. Almost all other recipes however can be farmed OR only drop for guilds. Being only +15agi recipe holder in server has every right to ask 1000g craftingcosts if he wants to, nothing immoral about it to me.

This got way too long and off-topic, not to mention how tired I am, hopefully someone still made sense out of this short story.

评论来自 Thottbot

In spite of the fact that I am attempting to post without taking sides on the topic of whether an enchanter (or anyone else) should charge for a service, I figure I�ll be flamed by someone. Anyway, here are some observations on the use of the term �economy� and the related attitudes on the �right� to charge a fee in the posts to date:

Definition of economy: �The system or range of economic activity in a country, region, or community� (in this case, WoW). The WoW economy is unique from most market economies in that: 1. it is almost completely unregulated, 2. the goods and services sold are limited, and 3. the ability to differentiate goods and services is very limited. Under these conditions, all prices are, by definition, are market driven. The price of an item depends on the tastes, income and elasticity of demand of the customers. If a high demand item/service is in short supply, that item/service will cost more than one than a low demand/high supply item/service. The WoW economy is subject to all of the normal micro and macro economic influences.

What does all of this mean? If you are an enchanter, you can charge whatever you want for your services, but your success may be limited if there are other enchanters around to provide the service. You can even collude with other enchanters and create a monopoly by agreeing upon a price that everyone will charge. If you are a customer, pay whatever you are willing to for an enchanter�s service. If you think it is too high, don�t pay and look for other options. What this means above all is that all of you should quit wasting time arguing the merits of your point of view on this board and go play the game that we all enjoy so much.

评论来自 Thottbot

Here's the one and only reason why enchanters will sometimes charge for just clicking a button to perform the enchant.

Are you paying attention? Good. Here it is...

BECAUSE THEY CAN

Don't like it? Fine. Make an enchanting alt and try to build him up to the point where he can do this enchant. Enjoy spending a week or five working on an alt just to save a few gold.

In the meantime, I'm going to be charging for every enchant and people will be buying it.

Don't like it? Fine. Whine and moan until you're exhausted, I'll still be charging for it when you're done throwing your fit.

If someone performed an enchant for you for free then they did you a FAVOR. You should thank that person and recognize your good fortune instead of assuming that you're entitled to free candy from everyone because you're so cool.

End of story.

评论来自 Thottbot

Bronprondamus, as a hunter considering this enchant automatically placed on all weapons, would you use a one-handed weapon, or a two handed-weapon. And why?

评论来自 Thottbot

Why is everyone talking about general enchanting and not about the specifics of the +15 agility enchant? This should be a discussion on the pros/cons of the +15 agility. Talk about a waste of time - reading through all this crap and not find any useful information.

评论来自 Thottbot

A great enchant honestly, my damage and crit has been improved to a noticable level on my rogue when applied to my Core Hound tooth. As for an off hand enchant, this would have to be the best for a melee class using 1h'ers. Crusader would be better for the main hand where proc rates are higher, a good example would be a sword rogue using the brutality blade in his/her main hand with crusader and a core hound tooth in off hand with +15 agil. A perfect combo for some very high DPS. Anyways enjoy the enchant all you hunters and rogues and possibly warriors!

评论来自 Thottbot

Put +15 Agility on both weapons...And here is why.

Unholy sucks, flat out.

Lifestealing is ok, but it only gives 30 health on proc.

Fiery procs nicely, but if you can't hit other Rogue twinks, then it don't matter, ya done anyways.

Icy NEVER procs, no joke, or at least I have never seen of it doing so or heard of it doing so.

Weapon damage is ok, but not a twink enchant.

+15 Agility gives dodge, AP, and crit chance.

Beastslaying is pointless, unless you want to pwnzor a Hunters pet, then go for it. :P

Crusader is also pretty good but like other enchants, it has to hit, and the proc is going to be low when you get in to a Battle with 7 twinked Rogues and cannot hit them.

+15 Agility is also PASSIVE. That is what makes it so great. It does not need to hit or proc to come into effect.

Please comment.

评论来自 Thottbot

All of you that are arguing over this stupid economy crap are getting really annoying, you should go make a general forum or something. It's really getting old hearing people say the same things over and over again, and it has nothing to do with this enchant.So please stop posting dumb comments that everyone has said already.

评论来自 Thottbot

adds to melee weapon (see description), so i'd say you got a Hall & Oates (Nope, no-can-do) on the thrown weapon deal...

评论来自 Thottbot

I'm a 350 enchanter, and I charge 5gold per enchant, and 2gold for guildies, free for my girlfriend.

Those people outthere, who downright ^&*!@ about enchanters charging them extra for chants(tips) should go try and get to 350 themselves.

I have a funny story about a guy I met online...he was a mage...and he had just gotten his gladiators war staff...he wanted +40 spell damage on it...did i have it? of course i did...what enchanter with respect for his profession doesnt have the main casters enchant? i just ask, i'd love to know.

Anyway...so i ask him to go get mats...and he does...he gives them to me....i open trade, he puts his staff in will not be traded slot, and i go find the chant, and i click his staff....his side of the trade window then turns green...and i ask "dude....tips make the world go around" ...you know what the mother&%¤=er said? he said "I just went and bought mats for 200g...and you expect me to give you 5g more? screw you dude!" and he closed trade and ran off, and he ignored me

Conclusion:This guy still runs around without any %^&*ing enchant on his &*!@ing staff...why? cause he's a greedy bastard who doesnt respect that enchanters go to bashir's landing, grinding from 15 min to 5 days+ of their time, getting that god damn BoP rez-e-p. He doesnt deserve an enchant, and i'm sure ALL enchanters outthere agree with me

My point: People outthere who demands enchants without tips...You can go either level a char to 350 enchanting yourselves..or you can try and get foward in WoW without a single #$%^in chant on your gear...thats my opinion.

评论来自 Thottbot

The biggest problem is that blizzard allows people to use their own mats for enchanting, and that there is no way to sell enchanting without being face to face. The scroll idea for spellcrafting in wotlk will be the save all for this problem, hopefully it transfers to enchanting as well.

Enchanting was easily the most expensive pain in the ass trade I have, engineering tailoring alchemy were all far easier and actually gave me something usefull in the end. Well engineering is a bit of a joke now but thats another story.

The bottom line is if I didn't WASTE 100's if not 1000's of gold on enchanting I could have simply spent a bit of it and bought the enchants from some one else. I don't even use the skill anymore for anything but disenchanting and selling the mats, because it's a joke.

We spend tons of gold to get the skill, then tons more on the recipes. Plus tons of time for the rep/bop monster drops. And then get a measly 5-10g profit back. So great that 400g enchant I just bought only needs to be used 40 times before I break even... Add to that the fact that the general population of wow doesn't even use enchants due to it's cost. And you have a population of people who for the most part don't care about your expensive trade, and when it comes time for they to actually use it they want to use their own mats and maybe a small tip for the trouble.

Then add insult to injury by making it impossible for us to even use our hard earned skill on our alts, and it's a total waste of time skill. And I honestly tell any one I know who wants to try it to not bother, because I certainly wouldn't have.

评论来自 Allakhazam

this doesnt say what enchanting level you have to be to get it like 300....so when or what enchanting lv do you get this?

评论来自 Allakhazam

My main (a Rogue) is on the Gilneas Server, and i was wondering if anybody can do this and what it would cost.

评论来自 Allakhazam

roughly a week's worth of grinding to get this. Leveled twice while grinding nothing but furbolgs. Once you get it you're screwed, because you need to get the MATS for it. Mind you, you also have to get the mats for the RUNED ARCANITE ROD. I don't know about the rest of you, but on Suramar, NO ONE HAS A ARCANITE ROD! So yeah, fun stuff, I'm not saying it isn't worth getting, I mean....when I FINALLY get the mats for the rod and this enchantment times 2 (dual wielder here). Then I'll be as happy as a clam. I just see myself doing tons of instances to get the money to make this dream a reality

评论来自 Allakhazam

Can anyone do this on Bronzebeard Horde side? I've been waiting for 3 weeks trying to find someone :/ PST Kuriel if you can.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Which rod does this chant need?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Do you need honored or revered to get this enchant?

评论来自 Allakhazam

I can now do this on the Doomhammer server, send me a tell or in game mail and id be happy to work something out with you, took for freaking ever to get it,and a ton of gold to make the rod....but i think it was worth it, use it a ton in the guild...

评论来自 Allakhazam

This enchant will add:

0.75% to Dodge
0.75% to Crit
0.07% Damage Reduction
+30 Armor

+30 Ranged Attack Power

评论来自 Allakhazam

At level 70 for a hunter this is about .375% to Crit, 0.75% if you do 2 Weps (30AGI).

I am not sure what %crit is for other classes is for AGI

评论来自 Allakhazam

where do i get this enchat i never see recipe at AH for sale how do i get i am getting close to being able to get so i would like to now

thanks

评论来自 Allakhazam

Where do you get this?

评论来自 Allakhazam

According to the AH average for materials for this enchant listed here on Allakhazam, it adds up to about 100 gold. Actual cost varies by realm.

评论来自 Allakhazam

290 enchanting to use this.

评论来自 Allakhazam

this one is going on the offhand :]

评论来自 Allakhazam

how much is this enchant cos i wanna put it on hunter : )

评论来自 Allakhazam

Can this be enchanted on 2H weapons? im a 58 hunter on Kil'jaeden (Horde) and want this on my Barbarous Blade!

评论来自 Allakhazam

So. For a lvl 19 twink rogue, this means +1.5% crit chance. Exactly.

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lvl 63 Draenei Shaman
lvl 19 Twink Gnome Rogue

评论来自 Allakhazam

For those rogue twinks out there that aren't past lvl 35, I'd say this is your best bet for an enchant. The 15+ agility is very useful, and if you manage to get it on both hands it's even better. This glows green btw, which I think looks pretty kool. You can get the Formula for this enchant by getting Friendly with Timbermaw Hold and buying it from a furbolg named Meilosh. I'd say it's definately worth it. I'm planning on putting this on my 19 twink rogue and 29 twink hunter :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

What is the average price of this enchant?

评论来自 Allakhazam

how much +15 agility for? .75-1% crits chance right?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Very bright. Neonish. Looks cool.

If you need it, horde side, on stormreaver. PST Tyche.

评论来自 Allakhazam

nice enchant i bout to put this on my dwarf rogue cause i am twinking him out so this is a nice enchant for ur twink rogues

评论来自 Allakhazam

Timbermaw Furlbogs .... 5rep per kill of the other furbogs.

Winterspring or Felwood

25 points for the chief though. Other then the first quest giver outside of the tunnel and Meiloch at friendly (give her 30 runecloth for 100 rep) there is no other way to get faction then killing....have fun 8(

评论来自 Allakhazam

On Suramar I know of 2 chanters that have this at a fair price. Shadowwizard (alt is shadowalt) and Optimise. Both reputable and willing to do non-guild enchants. (neither are my guild)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Nice warrior enchant!
on 2 Bone Silicing Hatchet you can have nearly 3%crit chance!

Hatchets:斩骨手斧

评论来自 Allakhazam

you need honored

评论来自 Oxalus

This won't be available in Classic until Phase 3.

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永久性地为一件近战武器附魔，使其获得+15敏捷的效果。

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