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评论来自
1909
This seems to be more of a PvP talent than a PvE choice. This debuff cannot be applied to most high-level mobs in raids and instances, which severely hampers its usefulness in PvE. However, players are vulnerable to this useful debuff.
It's also important to note that Crusade also takes 3 points to max out, so if you plan to raid as a DPS paladin, it would probably be better to take 3 points in that talent than in this one (although since Crusade is a tier above Vindication it would take a bit of planning to avoid bad point placement in other talents).
评论来自
16310
It is useful for grinding, but doesn't proc often enough (with a 2h at least) to be active in every fight. In PvP it is good, and even caster classes feel the need to waste time dispelling this debuff.
评论来自
52592
Expected to be implemented in the next content patch:
"Vindication (Retribution) frequency and duration increased and now reduces all attributes by 5/10/15%, not just Strength and Agility"
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016252435&sid=1
评论来自
46672
is this a good leveling/ grinding talent?
评论来自
Kalken
Beware, when this ability procs and debuffs the target sometimes the target appears to heal itself. This is not a glitch it is merely the game adjusting the mobs percent left after subtracting 15% of it's stamina.
评论来自
118658
anyone know if this proc generates any threat
评论来自
Thelion
Does the debuff stack ? But that will only be in my dreams ... :P
评论来自
36705
I haven't actually found this talent very useful on my paladin. Typically when I was grinding mobs, by the time it actually proc'd, I had done enough damage so the effect was basically nullified. I suppose it is useful at high levels of pvp where people regularly heal and have tons of stamina, but at lower levels, when a single hit might already take out 10% of a mobs health, it's just not that great.
评论来自
125767
Basically, it's a very very useful PvP and PvE talent. It reduces the total effectiveness of your enemy while also weakening him. Thus allowing you to kill them faster, easier.
So you may need this for both pvp and solo, it's useful imao, but you can surely do without this and save 3 talent pts to use somewhere else. (Better have it though
评论来自
134628
Just to clear this up a bit here is a simple example. A mob has 500 heath base and another 100 from its stamina. You hit it for 200, so it is at 66% health (400/600). Vindication is applied, so now the mob only has 585 total max hp. ( 500 + (100* ( 1 - .15 ) )). So the mob is now at 68% (400/585) health.
Notice that when you see this "jump" in percentage it is indicating that you basically are getting nothing from vindication in terms of a mob having less HP to burn through. You still will have to do 600 dmg to kill the mob in the example.
Most every mob that i grinded on for the 10 or so levels that i had max vindication talented showed this "jump".
Conclusion: Reinforcing the idea that this talent isn't for PVE, do not get this expecting mobs in PVE to have less health making killing them easier. You will still have to do the same amount of dmg to kill pve mobs even if Vindication is applied in most every conceivable case.
评论来自
Corbon
Though this talent doesn't work on bosses (nerfed one patch after its introduction), it's included in a Raid Retri 7 0 54 spec and certainly beats 3% more Int anyway.
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辩护
天赋
需要 圣骑士
使圣骑士的近战攻击有一定的几率令目标的属性降低15%,持续15 sec。
魔法增益
法术细节
持续时间
n/a
类型
物理
机制
n/a
驱散类型
n/a
GCD目录
n/a
成本
无
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
瞬发
冷却
n/a
GCD
0秒
光环触发几率
100%
效果
Apply Aura:Proc Trigger Spell
PVP 倍率:1
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被动技能
隐藏光环
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