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I've watched a druid with about +720 spelldmg get avg. 2k crits with this.
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Excellent spelldamage scaling.
For example, Scorch is a 1,5 sec cast and gets 43% of spelldamage.
Wrath is a 1,5 sec cast as well, but it gets an entire 67% of spelldamage :)
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a balance druid with a good gear can crit like... 2k? and its only cast for 1.5(talnte) i mean .. damm he can spam this :D
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Hi im a moonkin druid lvl 69 atm on lightning's blade i can get around 1700-1850 crits with this spell with the wrath idol with my trinkets activated i can get 2k crits but i still suck at pvp but that just me
no seriuously i suck at pvp
PvE for life
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Can anybody check how work Wrath with Nature Grasp efect- its interesting becouse Wrath have 1.5s Global Cooldown. So can i realy cast wrath in 1.0 s, or will it be only 1.0 s wrath animation but sure it will be only 1.5s cast? I heve read a lot information in diferent Forums about Wrath, and on each Moonkins write difrent about this efect.
My Moonkin have 30.48% crit chanse self bafed (without 4% Wrath crit chans from talent- so it is 34.48% in fackt) and in instanses i spam only wrath without starfire or moonfire- so how work Nature Grasp is wery important for me.
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A ) Dont use wrath in instances, you'll go oom horribly fast
B ) Nature's 'grace' reduces the cast time of your next spell by .5 seconds, seeing how wraths cast is 1.5 it becomes 1, and you've already casted a spell so unless you crit with moonfire youre gcd is already up
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I think the point of this spell is quickness.
I mean, this is the fastest bolt in all game, 1.5 sec to cast talented with nice crit percent and chance to lower casting time with each crit to 1.o sec cast. Thats awesome dps indeed, example:
im a 63 balance with crap gear (the ones you get from quests) and i do regular 600 dmg with my wrath (383 dmg bonus), i have some 20.53% crit chance so it will be 24.53% with wrath.
Starfire has the same crit chance but takes longer to cast it so its half the chance of wrath.
Starfire = 1150 circa dmg crit 2000 3 sec cast
Wrath = 600 circa dmg crit 1000 1.5 sec cast
so with two wraths you do more dmg than starfire and have double chance of critting.
Bad point is that u will be soon OOM, but it happened to me to crit 3 times in a row doing rough 3k dmg... quite nice i think, anyway i still dont use it in dungeons.
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casting moonfire doesn't use up the nature's grace proc.
in full leather nearing 700 bonus spell damage this spell crits for over 2000 consistently, often in the 2300-2400 range, this spell OWNS
and it's nearly uninterruptable, how do you like that?
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Two weaks ago i have token first place In Karagan on my Damage Mater with spaming Wrath in my Blue Gear
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Warsong&n;=Testosteron
With 2 loks , 1 Hunter, 1 rogue in reyd.
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In instances u should spam wrath alot! u wont go oom in short fights and vs boss u have innervate ready. my druid does ~~1000 non crit wrath and 2k crit unbuffed whit 27% spell crit change in moonkin. This leads in lots and lots of damage and im usualy top1 in dmg meters.
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Talk out of experience, dont mislead yourself with math.
As for which is better for PVE, I have a 70 moonkin with decent gear, I do my usual static group (vent and fair distribution of the loot ftw).. not gonna details much but the best DPS in our group is my rogue buddy, so I take him as a measure for my moonkin DPS.
I tried many ways of casting my skills but with no hope, I started with Starfires + dots but no good, then I tried the dots (by dots I mean moonfire and insect swarm - I use FF only on bosses cuz mobs die faster than u think in a static) with Wrathes BUT along with Starfires on crits and still poor results.. my buddy suggested why not spamming Wrathes?
At first I thought: It might be a good idea but Starfire crits are really high you know... but then I had to try it at least once, the amazing thing is that I skyrocketed the DPS meter.
After I gave it a little THOUGHT (after TRYING ofcourse), the answer to this was very easy, what I did was casting the 2 dots and refreshing them at the moment they wear off, while just casting wrath and didnt even touch the starfire skill.. let me explain:
We all know Starfire is 3.5sec cast (3 with talent)
Wrath is 2sec cast (1.5 with talent)
The trick is WHICH will CRIT more over a given period? let us say 30sec.
with no doubt, the skill with less casting time isnt it? how many starfires in that whole 30sec? its 10 (with no crits) and you can cast 20 of wrath in that same time.
lets say my crit% is 25%, now speaking of the percentage, thats 1 crit almost 100% out of each 4 casts, dont get lost now lol, Starfire will have only 2 out of the 10 casts with crits, wrath will get 20/4 = 5 crits, that shows OVERTIME more DPS, SOME may say: Thats a mana burn you idiot!
For a moonkin with only 3 epic pieces on me, I had no problem at all with mana while spamming wrathes along with refreshing dots, I never go OOM on trash mobs at all, sure I drink between fights even mages do, and I do splended damage on bosses, I even got agro off of our godly static tank pally (though he was tanking with his DPS gear lol hes still good with it).
another friendly question from some moonkin fella: Whats the use of Starfire then if you can own stuff with Wrath?
You answer is right there, unless you dont PvP, Starfire have 15% chance to stun for 3sec, and thats great for ganking offguard players, imagine I sometime have 2 stuns from 2 starfires in a row and that means my target will be dead soon.
another question from a Starfire lover: But I wanna use Starfire in PVE too ; ; cant I?
Dont worry friend, if your clever enough, and if your party is good enough (like mine), I start with starfire on each new pull, if it crits, thats a nice boost to start your dps with, but really, spamming Starfire is not healthy for your crits, and more crits surely gets you more dmg, and I tested it myself.. unless you want to make sure, thats up to you.
Dunno if I forgot to mention something but am sure this thread will be useful for some moonkins out in the wild =P be it mobs or players lol.
Now OFF THE TOPIC, I met a DAMNED EPICED GEARED BOOMKIN FROM HELL in 1 of my late AVs, I asked him nicely and got some answers>>>
his STARFIRE does around >> 5.4k <<
his WRATH does around >> 2.5k <<
NOW NOTICE >> this is the dmg he reaches with ONLY his OWN druid BUFF, he CAN go HIGHER with some few extra buffs yeah.
The only thing that came to my mind is: WTH, HES ONLY USING THE PVP REWARDS YOU KNOW!
And thats what I understood after I met that guy, moonkin is nothing w/o epic equips, sure your still impressive with that crit aura and sure you are doing the dmg of a mage, only mages got some more useful stuff indoors for the party than moonkin and got more mana if arcane specced or subbed, but moonkins are scary with the dmg u see above that is still not the best gear in the game and with some effort, you can really be proud of being a moonkin...
With more crit, if you can ever be at 30%, then you can get the dmg of a pyroblast in 3sec with starfire if you lucky enough to crit it (chance should be 1/3 casts).
... ops my bro account lol.. this is "Player on Fire", and yes, I have a druid and warrior at 70, this is my second reply, my first was on a warrior skill if you wanna go check it.. Devastate (last rank).
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I have both a 70 drood and 70 elemental shaman. I took the druid balance to see how it was (feral to 70) after 2 weeks doing Kara with both, the elemental shaman decimates my drood in spell dps. My LB's on the shaman (in 3 epics), fully trink'd and buffed, break 4100 easy, closer to 4200 crit average. At 37% talented spell crit, plus 3% totem, makes 40% crit. Needless to say, I took the druid back feral and enjoy tanking, much wiser for the lesson. The druid had pretty crappy blues for balance, I admit, but...it wasn't even close. That's not even taking into consideration LO, which is wild and uncontrollable. And, to my suprise, the shaman could actually go longer than the druid spamming LB vs. wrath, even though I had roughly the same mana (8.5k vs 8.1k) Just my 2 cents
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Moonkin needs:
Silence / spellinterupt
could be placed high in balance talent tree like instead force of nature.
Give force of nature to all druids, but make it summon only one treant, add balance talent that increases amount of treants summoned by 1/2.
Clearcast
Some way to keep casting longer for real pve dps.
crit or spellhit based one, both do fine
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I think that they already made something like that,
Oh wait, it's called an ELEMENTAL SHAMAN.
Plus, there is the thing called Omen of Clarity.
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=16864/
清晰预兆
Granted it is melee hits, (I would like that to change) but it can still be a life saver.
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Anyone know if the 1.5 sec global cooldown still applies to wrath? Been trying to test it myself, spamming wrath crits will bloodlusted, and it actually looks like I am going below the global cooldown. Possible that haste effects reduce the global cooldown? O.o
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im a moonkin druid lvl 70 i have 704 spell dmg in pvp gear. I hit a easy 1020 wrath and crit a easy 2k+. with trinkets poped 2200+ and a normal 1.8 starfire and crits 3.4k+ easy. trinkets poped a easy 2K+ and crits (starfire) 3.6+. i drop other players in much better gear then my self. if your a druid i would wait till lvl 58 or so for outlands gear for spell dmg be for going balance i would start at that lvl if you like spell casting if your a mele kind of guy stay feral. dont go resto till lvl 70 if you like healing so you can lvl very easy.tip its never to lae to rspec and learn how to play your spec if your thinking about reroling classes try a dif spec might help you. Im glad i lvled a druid to 70 druid they are very fun and a good class. hope this helps some of you =)
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Interesting is also when a wrath crits, the NAture's grace effect is activated when the cast is finish, but not when it reaches ur opponent. So u can see if ur next wrath will crit just by looking on ur buffs ;)
I would also recommend to cast roots after a wrath crit, if ur not too far away ur wrath will hit and about 0,1 sec later ur enemy is in roots. Then insectswarm and starfire for fun
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im a moonkin on Rivendare with 1200spelldmg, i get 1500 non-crit, around 3100 crit, i get highest dmg/killing blows in AV almost evryr single game, today i critted balinda for 5000+ with FW battlestandart and stormstrike debuff, pretty nuts for 1.5 sec spell
true spamming wrath is quite expansive, but if u have alchemist stone, elem shaman and shadow priest in group u can output some insane dps with this and not go oom.
dont forget 2.4 new balance 4 piece bonus, it will work nicely, spam wrath till SF procs, even in raids, it procs around 1 proc every 10 sec ive tested it on Dr'Boom.
on the side note, get lightning capacitor from Kara and u will have 800+ free dmg almost every 7 sec, assuming u have high crit
my plan for the future when S4 hits live servers: get 4 pieces balance S4 legs/should/gloves/chest and 4 piece T6 boots/bracer/belt from sunwell and helm from BT. for 2 set bonuses
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对目标造成383 to 432点自然伤害。
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