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评论来自
Beska
Evidently (since it's not on any currently killable boss' loot table, including the penultimate boss), it drops from Kil'jaeden, the last boss in the
Sunwell Plateau
. Other weapons suggested to drop from him include:
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
,
Apolyon, the Soul-render
,
Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei
,
Sunflare
Crux of the Apocalypse
.
评论来自
xaedyn
Quite possibly the best 1 hand weapon for hunters. Having 2 of them, both with 10 agi gems and 20 agi enchants, gives you 96 agi, 30 stam, 120 attack power and 54 haste rating, which is beyond amazing.
评论来自
Paulosio
Without wanting to turn wowhead into thottbot (but you've already done that)... any guild with enough synergy to down KJ would give this to a hunter because rogues don't use daggers in end game PVE because swords are far superior. Even blizz have said that daggers need some changes to make them viable in PVE... unfortunately that is unlikely to happen before WOTLK.
So ye any guild able to down KJ will give these to a hunter.... just like they do with shiv of exsanguination from the twin eredars. I have 2x shiv of exsanguination on my hunter because I was the only person who wanted them... the rogues in my guild are smart enough not to waste their DKP on something that is useless to them outside of PVP
Sorry to inform you but end game raiding guilds focus on what's beneficial to their raid progression and not what might be useful to someone for a few weeks till they get their season 4 weapons.
评论来自
Thunderstruck05
2 of these would be killer for a Mutilate rogue.
评论来自
Corbon
Too bad dagger specs suck for PvE, so it's highly likely that this weapon will go to a Hunter. Wake up, dude.
评论来自
Rexz
Jamie, if you look at the Mainhand glaive, you will see that it have a better base damage value than the dagger here. This mean sword rogues will still be able to do more yellow damage and probably more overall damage in the end due to just the higher base damage.
214 - 398 from the glaive versus 164 - 274 from the dagger
If you know how Sinister Strike work and where it accumulated it's power from, you would understand it more clearly. Same with hemo.
here's the quotes from WoWwiki
http://www.wowwiki.com/Sinister_Strike#Tips
It is recommended that you use a slow, hard-hitting weapon in your main hand when using Sinister Strike, as the damage from Sinister Strike is calculated from a range between your weapon's minimum and maximum damage.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hemorrhage#Thinking_of_speccing_Hemorrhage.3F
If you plan to use Hemorrhage always look for the weapon that has the highest average damage that you can obtain. If you are making a choice, choose the weapon with the best average damage.
Needless to say, the mainhand warglaive will still be one of the best weapon around for a sword rogue due to it's incredibly slow speed for a 1h weapon (which mean it will have a higher min+max range for the weapon damage, your sinister strike or Hemo will be a lot stronger with it).
As of right now, I do not have the dagger and the sword to compare it using spreadsheet, but hypothetically speaking, the mainhand glaive still should contain the best over all dps for a sword rogue. In conclusion, the legendary glaive shouldn't be beaten by this dagger, as others can still draw a lot of power from the way it is design to boost SS and Hemo damage. The dagger however, would be an interesting weapon for all the dagger spec'd rogues out there. I do not play a dagger rogue so i have no idea how it will do, but looking at this it look like it'd make a fine weapon for any dagger rogue out there.
评论来自
AMIB
This item is particularly poor. Few characters in a guild killing Kil'jaeden will want this item over the alternatives.
Rogues are largely using swords or sword/fist at this level of play.
Muramasa
paired with
Dragonscale-Encrusted Longblade
or
Warglaives of Azzinoth
are the weapons of choice for sword rogues.
Hunters are well-catered to in Sunwell weapon-wise, and will prefer
Shivering Felspine
or a brace of
Shivs of Exsanguination
.
Enhancement shamans have long abandoned daggers due to Windfury, Flurry, and Stormstrike issues, and fury warriors avoid daggers because of how Flurry and Whirlwind work.
Ultimately, this dagger suits only the oddball combat daggers or mutilate rogue, an unlucky hunter, or a fury warrior in search of a fast weapon for Executing. A disappointing drop for any guild killing the last boss in the game, to be sure.
评论来自
160012
I dont know about "direct upgrade on every stat". If we break down the stats (assuming that all sockets are filled with +10agi gems and are enchanted with either +20agi for the Crux's and +35agi for the Polearm, the stats look as follows:
Crux x2
96 AGI
120 AP
54 Haste
30 Stam
Shivering Felspine
97 AGI
124 AP
53 Haste
So, they are very similar. As I said, the only real difference is the +30stam and the fact you can use 2 oils. Im not trying to say that either of those things are bad, but I would not consider either to be a huge upgrade by itself. Its nice to have, but more of the sprinkles on the cake (as opposed to the icing).
评论来自
kriS411
As a hunter:
2x
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34197
would be slightly better but if those won't drop Crux is a good alternative.
Its an upgrade to any other available melee weapons like
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33389
,
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32248
and
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34183
If noone wants at and you aren't already dual-wielding Shivs I advice to take it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok, how is it nobody has noticed this is an UBER ambush rogue dagger? I can't image the crits a well spec'd subtlety rogue could average on his/her ambushes and backstabs with this beast... good stuff...
On the warglaive vs this note... warglaives a sword (great for combat rogues) while this is a dagger... (VERY useful to a subtlety rogue since u can't ambush with a sword).. they're just different - different weps for different uses...
评论来自
Thottbot
Drops from Kil'Jaeden and looks quite well for a rogue ;)
first btw :p
评论来自
Thottbot
Second! Definetly good for a rogue :)
评论来自
Thottbot
2 posts and no #$%^&*!s saying they want it yet? Crazzzzy stuff
They do put a lot of nice daggers on bosses for rogues... possibly too many in fact, daggers seem to have become a way of saying "I have nurfed myself in pvp for pve" so I guess blizzard is just trying to keep us dagger spec'd rogues happy
评论来自
Thottbot
Lol mb hunters want 1h-weapons because Rogues and Warriors also steal our crossbows and guns?
评论来自
Thottbot
this is a hunters weapon!....we need to dual wield this cuz it makes us happy....there ya go d00mcaster....i got ur back!
评论来自
Thottbot
why is this better than warglaive of azzinoth?
评论来自
Thottbot
the warglaive
set
is why they are the best dps weapons in game, if you had no warglaives then KJ fist weapon with something like a brutal glad quickblade or BoS offhand would be better. this is still pretty good for Cdag/mut but both are just sub-par specs anymore for endgame.
it depends wether or not
Shiv of Exsanguination
stats would be greater to a hunter (im betting crux is probably better, but im not a hunter)
i play a rogue live, have done full bt/kalecgos, and can say that this could be a hunter item, but id sure use it for mutilate for kicks
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