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评论来自
10076
Arguably the best PvE enchant for casters, even in BC. Physical dpsers will likely get agi, but casters have few if any other options.
2% threat adds up nicely. At 1000 dps (common for dps classes), this basically means your threat generation is equivalent to doing 1200 less damage every minute.
评论来自
44554
I cannot recall of any boss that actually has resistances.
The occasional partial resists you may notice are caused by the level difference (boss level =yours+3), which translates to a damage loss equivalent of 15resistance, but cannot be mitigated.
In conclusion, this is the only viable choice for casters in PvE
评论来自
59522
As a raiding/pvp affliction Warlock, I would much rather have 20 penetration or a resistance enchant on my cloak, although it is a shame there isn't a better option (6-12 spell hit rating to cloak comes to mind)
On the PvE side: Warlocks have 10% threat reduction from talents, with this enchant, it comes to a total of 11.8% threat reduction. (Threat reduction effects are multiplicative so .9 * .98 = .882) This is almost the full 2% as advertised, but if you factor into the equation Blessing of Salvation, the actual threat reduction of this enchant is only 1.2% (post-BC almost every 10/25-man you'll have a Paladin in the group), bringing you to 61.74% of your DPS translating into TPS as opposed to 63% of DPS -> TPS.
Also with regard to PvE, you don't always put CoE/CoS on a mob - trash mobs, mobs that need banishing right off the pull - and non-Warlock classes can't rely on there always being a Warlock or two in the raid to have CoE/CoS for them, so penetration should be given consideration.
In pvp this enchant is obviously worthless, whereas Penetration or Resistance enchants would shine.
Note: TPS stands for Threat Per Second, CoE/CoS stand for Curse of Elements and Curse of Shadows respectively.
评论来自
aleols
On PTR the mats for this is:
4 x Small Prismatic Shard
2 x Greater Planar Essence
8 x Primal Shadow
评论来自
Corbon
This might be useful for healers. For any DPS class, there are alternatives.
评论来自
39142
This enchant is now available for 2.5g for being exalted with Thrallmar or Honor Hold. Arguably the best cloak enchant for ANY dps class.
评论来自
defektunge
It's modified by other threat modifiers (BoSalv,Burning Soul,etc..) so it can be closer to 1%
False. The bonuses are multiplied, yes, but this does in no way diminish the value of this enchant. It's still going to reduce the threat you cause once all those other bonuses are applied by 2%, which is still just as good as it would be if you didn't have them.
It's fairly simple math, and it has to work the way it does to prevent threat reduction from stacking in very iffy ways once you get a lot of it. Just picture an enhancement shaman with Spirit Weapons, Tranquil Air, Blessing of Salvation, Bracing Earthstorm, and this enchant having 89% threat reduction, and you'll see my point. They'd be able to do ten times as much damage with the same threat...
评论来自
149470
What's cruel is that nowhere can be found a conclusive and verifiable list of spell resistances on all mobs in the game, and armor for that matter. Such a list would be conducive to qualifying or negating statements like "Nothing in the Burning Crusade except Supremus has any spell resistances for which anyone would need penetration."
Right now, it's impossible to say except from personal experience with combat logs to verify, but I can say from aforesaid personal experiences that many non-boss mobs
do
have spell resistances that
will
reduce
significantly
the magical damage dealt to them even with curse of shadows and elements applied. Some of the trash in Hyjal has very high Shadow resistance.
Pre-BC, spell resistances are very common and there are set numbers for hundreds of different mobs that range from 10-300.
Of course, we can just have two cloaks with different enchants for different situations.
As a point, go do
The Air Strikes Must Continue
and wear at least 50 spell penetration one time and none the other time. You will notice the difference between 14,000 Fire damage and 56,000 Fire damage.
These things having been said, Subtlety is the best PvE caster enchant and anything else is a cheap ploy to not spend eight primal shadows. Don't believe anyone who claims they're negating all the resistances in the Burning Crusade with their penetration enchant.
评论来自
28506
Yes threat reduction effects are multiplicative, so Subtlety will reduce less than 2% from INITIAL threat (when you don't count any other effects). It will still reduce 2% of your current threat.
So for example, if you have 1000 TPS, it makes it 700 with salvation. Subtlety will reduce your threat by additional 14 TPS, to 686, which is 2% less than your current threat. 14 is only 1.4% reduce if you count base TPS, but for you, subtlety will still be 2% threat improvement (700:686).
评论来自
84528
Ok, I was wondering if anyone had done any testing to see if the threat reduction applies to warlock minions as well ... as in ... does this enchant also reduce my voidwalkers threat by 2% ?
Any useful feedback would be greatly appreciated.
评论来自
Kar0t
For casters, this is probably the best enchant for the new heirloom cloaks added in Cataclysm. Unfortunately, there aren't too many options. You can basically choose from either the buffed Stealth enchant (agility + dodge), armor, or any of the various magic resistances, or this one.
评论来自
remid0d0s0
I'm wondering if I'd notice any help this gave my druid healer, who (despite having decent HP and gear) occasionally gets two-shotted by trash mobs that the tank hasn't fully controlled. Unfortunately droods don't really have much in the way of threat dump or mitigation, so I was thinking about this enchant.
评论来自
QFred
This enchant is the very best for an heirloom cape for any non-tank character. It's quite useful especially when dungeon-grinding all the way to 85 or 90 (in a month).
评论来自
Thottbot
Basically good for anyone but your Main tank.
评论来自
Thottbot
Where is this formula from?
评论来自
Thottbot
2% less threat generated means 2% more dmg possible... simple as that... and since the nexus shards are FREE fro any high end guild, I'd gladly spent 40~50g on the diamonds to have that on my Puissant Cape ^^
评论来自
Thottbot
as minimalistic as 2% less aggro is, what else you got that's good pve-wise? +3 agi? :P
评论来自
Thottbot
Call me mad, but unless you increase my mana pool by 400-500%, i aint pulling no healing aggro the next 300 years.
-Shaman
评论来自
Thottbot
We picked it up off the Twin Emperors last night. Going to have to say that this is definitely a good chant for those hunters, rogues and mages that can't help but pull aggro. Not too bad a chant for priests to help with healing aggro either, besides, most cloak chants are fairly useless for priests so this would definitely be worth the mats and as someone else stated, if you're killing the Twin Emperors, your guild most likely has a bunch of nexus crystals and large brilliant shards laying around so the only real expense would be the black diamonds which, on our server, run between 20-30g.
评论来自
Thottbot
Personally I would welcome this enchant for my lock, SM/Ruin build or Destruction are very high aggro. Not fun for BWL raiding where aggro control is important.
评论来自
Thottbot
this enchant isnt just good for dps, but its also good for healers too. imagine thhow much more healiung they could do without geeting aggro :P
评论来自
Thottbot
The fact that hunters can wipe themselves off the hate list every 30 seconds means they should never be taking anything but AoE damage in a raid situation. If a hunter is taking direct damage and are not absolutely vital to the fight at hand I will happily let them die. There's a warrior out there who deserves my mana much more.
As for the enchant, 2% less threat sounds positively delicious. I can start casting heals half a second sooner and on high damage bosses like Vael, Broodlord and Firemaw where the starts can be delicate aggro/keeping tank up situauations that'd just be grand.
评论来自
Thottbot
It hurts to have your feign death be resisted when you really need to drop your aggro because a mob is beating on you. It hurts to have your feign death be resisted when you need to drink and now you are stuck with auto shot and passive mana regen(GG, I hope you saved your Rapid Fire). It hurts to have your feign death resist when you are sure those crits put you close to drawing aggro. Feign Death isn't the ez-mode skill you make it out to be. I'd rather have this enchant then a lousy +3 agility enchant or +70 armor. As far as having an FR or NR enchant, I rather use my Onyxia Scale Cloak or Gaea's Embrace.
评论来自
Thottbot
Any hunter pulling aggro is a moron. If feign is resisted then reduce your dps(DUH). Chances are you screw the whole raid up by taking aggro in most any raiding situations and in that case your a mana sponge that deserves to die. Now if you're talking UBRS or Strat or other such ez dungeons then who's gonna blow 4 Nexus crystals on that crap anyway.
评论来自
Thottbot
As of patch 1.12 all threat reduction mechanics are multiplicative, meaning that e.g. BoS+this equals 31.4% reduction.
评论来自
Thottbot
ever since that fateful day they changed the threat mechanics healers have been getting knocked around.normally this isnt a big problem but situations where there are many mobs or a mob that wipes his hate list it is, if you think a 2-3k melle or ranged crit pulls aggro imagine what a well meant 4-5k heal generates at the start of a fight! any threat reduction is worth its weight in gold so if i can find someone that can do this enchant for me thats what ill be paying for it
评论来自
Thottbot
Since the patch that reset our talents and locks got a massive boost to their dps, this is now defiantly more sutied to a warlock.
until tbc arrives i would say that this is the best enchant a lock can get on his cloak (not including the fr for your fr gear).
me personally am sick of dieing in av at dreki when 20 men are killing him and we have 5 sunders on, i nearly always manage to get aggro once my dots really start kicking in.
not really needed this on raids as our MT was imba and pally buffs etc, etc but for dreki this could save me hehe :)
评论来自
Thottbot
The biggest problem with a raiding shadow priest is agro.
Every point of damage we do, restores mana and health. We get triple threat generation.
Our recent buffs to damage, can make it so I am right up there with mages for damage. (the good ones are still up there, but I am coming within a few percentage points.)
I often have to make a choice of what I will regen, mana or health; doing both means I am usually second (and sometimes first) on the agro list.
This is with 40% threat reduction from my talents ( 25% Shadow affinity, 15% Silent resolve)
I still need more, to make myself more useful.
Fade is useless. It only drops threat slightly for a very short period of time, and once it is up; you get it all back.
评论来自
Thottbot
I just saw a Rogue looking for this enchant and just want to let you know it is NOT for Rogues... get AP or even Stats before this.
The key is keeping your DPS at max, and use Feint to control agro. All this enchant does is save you 20 energy by not having to use feint, and 20 energy 2 or or 3 times in a Boss fight is no where near worth as much as the extra damage over the entire duration of that fight.
评论来自
Thottbot
the thing is my rogue have too much ap/crit so I cant nuke as much as I want so every % in threat reduction is fracking imba! Im getting this enchant asap
评论来自
Thottbot
i cant think of a better enchant for dps casters.... i have +20 spell penetrration to cloak atm but im hearing that this is useless for PvE so.... im thinking of switching to the less threat enchant instead... any thoughts?
评论来自
Thottbot
This is THE best caster option for PvE since Spell Penetration seems to be useless. +120 Armor is worthless when you're getting hit for 6000. A 2% reduction in threat doesn't sound like much but it may JUST be the difference between life and death someday :)
评论来自
Thottbot
"Formula: Enchant Cloak - Subtlety: This enchanting recipe is now available from the Thrallmar Quartermaster and Honor Hold Quartermaster. The reagents required have been adjusted to match the level 70 content."
评论来自
Thottbot
I am a resto shaman and i was wondering if this was the best cloak enchant for me because i have no way to lower my threat once i have it like a priest with fade. Also i was wondering if there was a healer based enchant like bonus healing or something similar.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This would definately help a mage with all the agro we draw from our AoE spells
评论来自
Allakhazam
I really wouldn't even mind having this enchant for my mage.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Those aren't bad costs for such a super enchant for a rogue/hunter! ;) Or any other class not wishing to face death because of overagro. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Most crucial for a priest, because when in groups priests don't generally do any damage.
Mages and locks can also use this with great success
Rogues have vanish to lose all aggro almost 100%
Hunters have FD, also works mostly 100%
Priests and Warlocks have the fearing spells, but those aren't usually feasible in dungeons.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Looking for this enchant on horde side Arathor. PST Aranael if you can do it :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
clearly a Furywarrior-Entchant!
评论来自
Allakhazam
does this mean aggro in general...like say the distnace that a mob can see u? im kinda confused
评论来自
Allakhazam
Man, this is great for priests, when healing.
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