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评论来自
Asher
Very useful ring obtained from ZG. If you're lucky enough to beat out a rogue on the set, then more power to you. You will use these for a long time and enjoy every bit they offer.
评论来自
8558
Very good ring for many classes. The other set ring , Band of Jin, will aid many classes with more stats and if you retain both pieces a very nice +30 attack power bonus.
评论来自
Thottbot
This set is good for:
Hunters
AND
rogues
AND
warriors.
Quit acting like you're the only person that needs it, whats good for you is good for others.
评论来自
Thottbot
to the guy who said that these were the perfect rogue build...its the same with hunters. the AP transfers to ranged attack power for us hunters, we need crit, and stam...not much else
评论来自
Thottbot
"This set is good for:
Hunters
AND
rogues
AND
warriors.
Quit acting like you're the only person that needs it, whats good for you is good for others. "
Amen!
You &*!@#$ bags need to learn to accept the fact that there are items out there that are meant for more than class.. So stop posting on every @#$%ing item "This is a Hunter weapon!" or "this is so for rogues" and all the b.s. If you are going to post about an item, post something that people want to read. K thanks.
评论来自
Thottbot
For feral druids who use cat form, this set is better than any other ring set short of the Quick strike ring. In druid's cat form, you get:
16 stam
14 agi
1% crit
1% hit
50 AP (64 AP in cat with the agi boost)
评论来自
Thottbot
There is so much crap on this page I dont know where to begin.
Warriors are the only one who needs to sets of gear? Are you high, shut up please.
Crit gear/Damage Gear
Fire Resistance gear
Healer Gear and combo's of all of the above
And If ya do enough 5 manning Tank gear.
Welcome to the life of a Paladin
This set has Hunter/Rouge all over it, but who cares anyone can use it but a smart Warrior wouldnt want that unless he already had his Tier 2 Epics from BWL.
评论来自
Thottbot
I think you're all forgetting how much this could also benefit a feral Druid. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
i laugh when i read some of these comments. "feral druids are useless". "feral druids have no place in high instances". i, for one, am a feral druid in a high end guild. i go to MC, ZG, and AQ and go completely feral, only healing if we're short on primary healers. does my guild go against it? no. does it actually help us? yes. in ZG, it's sometimes prefered that i'm one of the ones getting aggro from the panthers on arlokk in ZG because of my high armor, and the fact that with thorns and the trinket from Rag, by the time we finish arlokk, the panthers are already half dead just from attacking me. sure, your guild may not let druids go feral or balance, and your druids may only heal in those places, but it's most likely because you still have trouble with that place and need all the healing you can get. one day, your guild will realize the benefit of those 3% crit auras.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm in high end raid guild, and i do mc/zg/20 man aq and im feral the entire time. DRUIDS ARE NOT FOR HEALING ONLY.
评论来自
Thottbot
I won the roll (60 Rogue) and I must say it's a nice upgrade to my Mason's Fraternity Ring... lol.
Basically we let everyone roll on anything they need. There's no fighting over what class should get what, because basically we can get upgrades later anyway.
The raptor mount dropped last night, so Zin'rokh the Destroyer. We finished the whole run to Hakkar in 2 hours.
评论来自
Thottbot
I think Priests should be primary to roll on this because all of you that ruin threads by !@#$%ing about who gets what are stupid. Grow up, geez..
Oh and one more thing. All classes in any talent belong in ANY instance or else they wouldnt have put them in the game. Geez people, come back to COMMON sense.
*That pain in the back of your head is your own stupidity squeezing that tiny little brain..*
评论来自
Thottbot
The only retarded comment is saying this is for any class specifically. This is a DPS ring set and has extremely well rounded stats that benefit rogues, warriors, hunters, druids, paladins, and shamans interested in upping their dps.
This set does NOT benefit rogues warriors or hunters any more than the other. The stats are universal. In fact just to use the most hated of all examples, this would be one of the best two rings a hunter could walk into MC with for the first time.
L2P
评论来自
Thottbot
didn read all the post but its not the only thing like hunters need it or rogue its also what kind of ring he got now and what does the other Needer got.
评论来自
Thottbot
Im a lvl 60 hunter on Tunderhorn. I have the set, it rocks my socks. have over 1300 RAP... There is a lot of bickering about who it belongs to. I think anyone that can use it, if your class can actually use the stats, should roll on it. All i have to say is HAHA I HAVE IT AND YOU DONT =P
评论来自
Thottbot
lol some people are funny.. when i play my rogue or retribution pali.. or even my enhancement shammy.. they all roll on pretty much the exact same items ... always... and when someone complains that i won .. i tell them to go waa waa all the way home :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set has:
14 agi
16 stam
1% to hit
1% to crit
50 attack power
QSR and Don Julio:
5 str
19 stam
1% to hit
2% to crit
46 attack power
IMO, the 2% to crit equals out the Agi, the Str makes up for the attack power (more so for a warrior, where 1str=2AP), and QSR and DJ have slightly more stam. So I'd say its almost at par with, but not better.
评论来自
Allakhazam
For hunters:
Major Mojo Infusion:
+160 hit points
+78 ranged attack power
+64 melee attack power
+1.00% to hit
+1.26% to crit
+0.53% to dodge
+28 armor
Don Julio's Band + Band of Accuria:
+210 hit points
+48 ranged attack power
+32 melee attack power
+3.00% to hit
+1.30% to crit
+0.60% to dodge
+32 armor
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got both of these rings over the course of the past week (uncontested minimum bid FTW) and they're an awesome upgrade from my Tarnished Elven Ring and Painweaver Band.
Tarnished Elven Ring:
+15 AGI
+1% Hit
Band of Jin:
+14 AGI
+8 STA
+1% Hit
A solid upgrade on it's own - a gain of 80 HP for the loss of only 2 RAP - a great trade, in my opinion.
Painweaver Band:
+7 STA
+16 AP
+1% Crit
Seal of Jin:
+8 STA
+20 AP
+1% Crit
By itself, Seal of Jin is clearly superior to Painweaver Band - an extra 4 AP and 10 HP with nothing lost.
Individually, each of the Jin rings are superior to the Tarnished Elven Ring or Painweaver Band. Where the Jin set shines is the +30 AP set bonus.
Edited, Sun Apr 30 19:07:06 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
To the guy who said a warrior cant out dps a rogue.....lol your funny. 1346ap with battleshout and a 31% crit...how bout you? Add in Str of Earth and Windfury totems=112ap bouns+extra attack....and finally Mark of the wild+24ap more and lets see if you ever even come near me in dps:) thats 1482ap and a whole lotta pain
评论来自
Allakhazam
This amazing item drops of High Priest Thekal. Thekal is the fifth boss located in the Zul Gurrub Instance. His aspect is that of the "Tiger". The guide for killing him, and claiming your phat lewt can be found here:
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评论来自
Allakhazam
Sry JB , your wrong!
you can´t take the agi and calculate it into
the Attack Power, but forget the other stats
rogues get from agi.
1 Crit per 29 points
1 Dodge per 15 Points
2 Armor per 1 Point
If you do this , you will see that the SoJ + BoJ Set is much more then you told us...
SoJ+BoJ set
64ap
16stam
~ 1,5% to crit
1% to Hit
~ 1% to Dodge
28 Armor
so thx for your listening off the different combos
but it´s worthless , until you calulate the
real stats ....
For example your favourit Combo DJB+QSR
19 Stamina
2 Crit
1 Hit
51 Attack Power
Does this look epic for you if you compare to an easy as hell to get , blue ring combo ?
Even if you think that you have to spend hours
and hours in Alterac AND be the lucky winner of they day to get a realy rar MC drop. (We clear MC and had not one single QSR)
i will wear the Mojo over the Epic rings.
just my 2 cent
Edited, Tue Sep 20 06:20:28 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
nevermind found out what it was
评论来自
Allakhazam
This + Don Julio's Band = Win?
评论来自
Allakhazam
For a hunter it really doesn't get much better then these 2 rings. Can't believe I already banked my Don Julio's.
评论来自
Allakhazam
what the hell's a djb? lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
You can't really say which pair of rings are the best. It really depends on the rogues preference. Some wants a lot of ap, some wants crit, some wants stam and some of them wants a well balance of all the stats. I have made a list of stats from different combonation of rings.
SoJ+BoJ set
64ap
16stam
1% to hit
1% to crit
BoA+DJB
32ap
1% to crit
3% to hit
21 stam
BoA+QSR
51 ap
1 crit
18 stam
2 chance
BoA+CoAF(circle of applied force)
50 ap
19 stam
2% to hit
1% to crit
QSR+CoAF
69 ap
15 stam
1% tocrit
DJB+QSR
51 ap
2% to crit
1% to hit
19 stam
DJB+CoAF
50 ap
20 stam
1% to crit
1% to hit
I currently have DJB+CoA. Im planning to get QSR to replace CoA.
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Disarray
Bleeding Hollow
Edited, Mon Sep 19 09:31:50 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm using the AEP values for Rogues.
1agi, 2str, 2ap, 1sta=1agility equivalency point
1%crit=10AEP
1%hit=7.5AEP
Using those figures, the of Jin set beats out QSR and JHB by about 3-5AEP.
It's really strange though, since after all, these are blues...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Whats with all the rogue talk, these would easily kick ass on any Warrior as well :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
The best two rings in game for a Rogue. Do the math, it beats a QSR and Don Julio's.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I dunno, screams fury warrior to me, hell any warrior would love to have these
评论来自
Allakhazam
@ xilentchaos
It's
Don Julio's Band
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why don't we talk more about acquiring these rings, instead of grouching about who can use them more?
The way I look at it, if I'm the top DPS'er of my guild in a raid(I'm a Rogue), and a Fury Spec Warrior isn't doing as well as I in the DPS department, I'll probably call for a Loot Council and request that the Fury Warrior gets it. Or the Hunter, or the other Rogue.
In the end, it's what you do to contribute to the guild overall, not just the damage department. If the Fury Warrior, Hunter, or other Rogue is falling behind in their capability to help on a Raid, then by all means, they need it more than me. Period.
To me, y'all are just a bunch of greedy n00bs. Stop acting like children squabbling over toys and think about what is best for the raid and/or guild.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the only better combination of rings for hunters/rogues are not comparable in the way of getting the items.
the only better combination of rings are following: (stats are calculated for hunters)
Band of Accuria + DJB:
+16AGI
+21STA
+1,30% CRIT
+3% HIT
+0,61% DODGE
but they are just sliiightly better then the major mojo-set
+14AGI
+16STA
+1,27% CRIT
+1% HIT
+0,53% DODGE
but the way to get the major mojo-set is a lot easier, then to get the BoA from ragnaros....or to get DJB....you have to do a long time hardcore-bg-pvp to get exalted with the Stormpike guard
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